Ndegwa Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 For such an successful afternoon for the team, this c*** still played like s***, made a decent block and nearly had a standing ovation for him when he played a simple cross field pass, Anita came on and offered much, much more. Tiote was god awful but can we forgive him it being his first start back? Colback though, jesus christ that bloke is such a negative footballer its scary, he literally tucks in to the back four when we're defending leaving the midfield horribly exposed. A decent replacement for him is duly needed in January. Remember that well. Thought it was odd at the time. But everything had been slowing down so much when he got on the ball and I think it was getting a little tight on the right hand side during that passage of play. So him playing a decent, if completely routine pass to the left flank, was suddenly seen as something much better than it actually was. It is funny though. The twitter and FB brigade absolutely love Colback. But he is crucified on here. I lean more towards the 'burn him at the stake, he's a witch' camp. But I can see both sides of the argument, to a point. What I can't stick is people defending him for 'putting a shift in' or 'working hard'. Best come back to 'he works hard' that I've found is 'so would me and you, that doesn't mean we should be playing for Newcastle?'...it's the worst argument going. Whenever I've come from that angle it gets petty, the response is always 'well you're not a professional footballer are you? You're in the Newcastle squad are you?' I know you are, but what am I? So cringe. Soopafans man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 Maybe we can send him back to the mackems and get M'vila once his loan ends. The first bit would do for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 I really struggle to understand the constant criticism of Colback on here. We all know his limitations and we all know the limitations of the side as a whole. He cost nowt, it's not his fault we havent bought a better player for the defensive role he's playing and there's little doubt that he's following the manager's instructions. He did OK yesterday, certainly better than Tiote. If he could pick a pass, dictate play and he a goal threat, he wouldn't be playing the defensive role he is for us or he'd be playing it for a better team than us. Tiote has a long long way to go before he can be considered as a reliable option, Anita isn't up to the role (expect the usual Anita defending posts) and we are pretty much left with Colback. I'd have liked to have seen Abeid get another chance, that was a very strange sale. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 I really struggle to understand the constant criticism of Colback on here. I thought he was awful yesterday- we were charging forward looking to rip Norwich a new one, ball comes to him. everything stops and goes backwards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 This cunt needs to be sold along with Tiote and we need a proper DM behind / alongside Anita. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 I really struggle to understand the constant criticism of Colback on here. I thought he was awful yesterday- we were charging forward looking to rip Norwich a new one, ball comes to him. everything stops and goes backwards. When we're bombing forward Colback shouldn't be involved full stop. I can't really remember him getting the ball in an offensive position, there were times when he got it defensively and slowed down any quick break but, that's the price to pay for his limitations, doesn't make him awful when he's no doubt been told to simply pass the ball on. I'm not pretending he's anything other than average but some need to understand he's being asked to play a certain way for the team. He'd get hauled off if he started straying out of position or tried spraying 50 yard passes and booted the ball into touch trying to do so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 What's the point of his role then? He doesn't break things up. He does nowt. He gets leeway on being a Geordie and a few goals and assists last year. He's ( like many mind) been awful this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 I would suggest he breaks up our own play pretty well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 What's the point of his role then? He doesn't break things up. He does nowt. He gets leeway on being a Geordie and a few goals and assists last year. He's ( like many mind) been awful this season. He does break things up and he does protect the back four where there'd otherwise be space. It's not glamorous and it's certainly not eye catching but it is functional. He doesn't get slack for being a local lad and if he's being judged on goals and assists he's got no chance. He's playing a position where the effectiveness isn't always obvious, the opposition will try and find attacking areas to nullify his position. On Sunday we were far too narrow again and the wide areas were vulnerable. With all the will in the world he can't protect those areas. He's not great but there's some unrealistic expectations of him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 He's not great but there's some unrealistic expectations of him. 'Unrealistic' to expect our starting midfielder to not be shite at football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 He's not great but there's some unrealistic expectations of him. 'Unrealistic' to expect our starting midfielder to not be s**** at football. Great post. Very insightful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 You're claiming that we have unrealistic expectations for our starting central midfielders, man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 I'd be absolutely fine with him sitting in front of the CBs and not contributing anything in the final third. If that's his role then the onus is on someone else to create and score, it's the fact that's his role and he does it poorly imo. He provides no protection to the defence and can't help out at the sharp end either. It's the worst of both worlds with him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 If you have as many technical limitations as he does then the one thing that might help you get away with it as a central midfielder in the top flight is athleticism. He has none. He is so off the pace at times it's unreal. My expectations of him when he plays are next to none, hence why I don't want him in the side. He's a tidy enough midfielder to bring off the bench to close the game off at best. Maybe he could fill in at fullback now and then. I don't think we need 2 of him, Anita and Tiote so I'd just play Anita and ask a bit more of the other midfielders. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 I'd be absolutely fine with him sitting in front of the CBs and not contributing anything in the final third. If that's his role then the onus is on someone else to create and score, it's the fact that's his role and he does it poorly imo. He provides no protection to the defence and can't help out at the sharp end either. It's the worst of both worlds with him. Makes up for it with his set piece delivery though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 I'd be absolutely fine with him sitting in front of the CBs and not contributing anything in the final third. If that's his role then the onus is on someone else to create and score, it's the fact that's his role and he does it poorly imo. He provides no protection to the defence and can't help out at the sharp end either. It's the worst of both worlds with him. Not even that would work imo; he just offers absolutely nowt. Like I just said in the McClaren thread, his distribution is far too limited for him to sit in front of the back four. There has to be some onus on him building the play if he's going to be the deepest of the midfielders. He's basically Scott Parker without the slide tackles. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 Since people love salivating over Colback's stats, look at them compare to the bloke we let join Crystal Palace. http://www.whoscored.com/Players/69867 http://i.imgur.com/HnnNO6c.png http://www.whoscored.com/Players/12376 http://i.imgur.com/5tZMk0Q.png PHWOARRRR Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 It doesn't mean much like but I find those images side by side absolutely hilarious Colback's biggest strength is actually his biggest weakness. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 Since people love salivating over Colback's stats, look at them compare to the bloke we let join Crystal Palace. http://www.whoscored.com/Players/69867 http://i.imgur.com/HnnNO6c.png http://www.whoscored.com/Players/12376 http://i.imgur.com/5tZMk0Q.png PHWOARRRR Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 Weaknesses: Crossing Takes all the set pieces. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 Weaknesses: Crossing Takes all the set pieces. We really don't have anyone who can properly whip a dead ball. There's no one I'd fancy over a free-kick. I wonder if Mitro can hit one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nattfare Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 Weaknesses: Crossing Takes all the set pieces. We really don't have anyone who can properly whip a dead ball. There's no one I'd fancy over a free-kick. I wonder if Mitro can hit one. Only if he can hit it to himself so that he can head it in too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 Since people love salivating over Colback's stats, look at them compare to the bloke we let join Crystal Palace. http://www.whoscored.com/Players/69867 http://i.imgur.com/HnnNO6c.png http://www.whoscored.com/Players/12376 http://i.imgur.com/5tZMk0Q.png PHWOARRRR Seriously, comparing him to Cabaye. I forgot he was his replacement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 He's not great but there's some unrealistic expectations of him. 'Unrealistic' to expect our starting midfielder to not be s**** at football. Great post. Very insightful. Ta. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 Since people love salivating over Colback's stats, look at them compare to the bloke we let join Crystal Palace. http://www.whoscored.com/Players/69867 http://i.imgur.com/HnnNO6c.png http://www.whoscored.com/Players/12376 http://i.imgur.com/5tZMk0Q.png PHWOARRRR :lol: His one strength is 'holding onto the ball', which could just as easily be a weakness. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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