Belfast Boy Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Mohammed Ali @mohammedali_93 3m Ben Arfa's agent dismisses beIN Sports' report that he's set for Qatar: "This is false. He has a year left at #NUFC, and intends to remain" It's the hope that hurts the most. The hope he will out stay Pardew, that MYM will go out on loan and return when he's gone too. The hope that someone buys Ashley out etc etc etc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Local journo's in 'making up shit shocker'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Mohammed Ali @mohammedali_93 3m Ben Arfa's agent dismisses beIN Sports' report that he's set for Qatar: "This is false. He has a year left at #NUFC, and intends to remain" Bunkum it is then. Mind, that suggests he either can get on with Pardew and thinks he has a chance to play, or he genuinely can't be arsed any more. Hope to fuck it's the former. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Or he would rather do a Gomis and negotiate a free transfer next summer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Mohammed Ali @mohammedali_93 3m Ben Arfa's agent dismisses beIN Sports' report that he's set for Qatar: "This is false. He has a year left at #NUFC, and intends to remain" Bunkum it is then. Mind, that suggests he either can get on with Pardew and thinks he has a chance to play, or he genuinely can't be arsed any more. Hope to f*** it's the former. I think he's hoping Trashley bins Pardew next season and the next fella actually has a clue and gives him a new contract. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Or he would rather do a Gomis and negotiate a free transfer next summer How is that a different option? Doing a Gomis means being picked and scoring goals before getting his move. Otherwise he's sitting on his arse for a year when he should be at his height. Christ, even a move to Qatar would be better than that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Or he would rather do a Gomis and negotiate a free transfer next summer How is that a different option? Doing a Gomis means being picked and scoring goals before getting his move. Otherwise he's sitting on his arse for a year when he should be at his height. Christ, even a move to Qatar would be better than that. Think of it like this, if say a club in Qatar is willing to pay us 3 million for him this year they could sign him next year and give hatem say 1.5million on top of his existing signing on fee Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Mohammed Ali @mohammedali_93 3m Ben Arfa's agent dismisses beIN Sports' report that he's set for Qatar: "This is false. He has a year left at #NUFC, and intends to remain" Bunkum it is then. Mind, that suggests he either can get on with Pardew and thinks he has a chance to play, or he genuinely can't be arsed any more. Hope to f*** it's the former. I think he's hoping Trashley bins Pardew next season and the next fella actually has a clue and gives him a new contract. It's a mad hope, but good luck to him if that's true. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 HBA playing over there may as well be him retiring from football. There's no other way to look at it imo. It was be a ridiculous waste of talent again. No difference between playing in Qatar and sitting on the bench for the King. Except for the cash, and the fact that he'd play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Or he would rather do a Gomis and negotiate a free transfer next summer How is that a different option? Doing a Gomis means being picked and scoring goals before getting his move. Otherwise he's sitting on his arse for a year when he should be at his height. Christ, even a move to Qatar would be better than that. Think of it like this, if say a club in Qatar is willing to pay us 3 million for him this year they could sign him next year and give hatem say 1.5million on top of his existing signing on fee I get the economic reasons, but I'm surprised that you're trying to suggest that HBA would think it's worth sitting in the stands for a year to pick up an extra £1.5m and yet it's somehow different from throwing his career down the pan. If you think he's that greedy then fair enough, but I hope you're wrong obviously. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Or he would rather do a Gomis and negotiate a free transfer next summer How is that a different option? Doing a Gomis means being picked and scoring goals before getting his move. Otherwise he's sitting on his arse for a year when he should be at his height. Christ, even a move to Qatar would be better than that. Think of it like this, if say a club in Qatar is willing to pay us 3 million for him this year they could sign him next year and give hatem say 1.5million on top of his existing signing on fee I get the economic reasons, but I'm surprised that you're trying to suggest that HBA would think it's worth sitting in the stands for a year to pick up an extra £1.5m and yet it's somehow different from throwing his career down the pan. If you think he's that greedy then fair enough, but I hope you're wrong obviously. I don't really view it as greed personally but for him it's certainly a win win imo. He can then say he stayed to fight for his place and didn't get offered an extension from ourselves. A lot can change in a year and being a free agent will present him with a lot of opportunities Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ste Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 There will be clubs in competitive leagues after him. Qatar won't be his only option, so if he goes there I'll be very disappointed but not surprised. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Mohammed Ali @mohammedali_93 3m Ben Arfa's agent dismisses beIN Sports' report that he's set for Qatar: "This is false. He has a year left at #NUFC, and intends to remain" Bunkum it is then. Mind, that suggests he either can get on with Pardew and thinks he has a chance to play, or he genuinely can't be arsed any more. Hope to fuck it's the former. He obviously likes it here so he's probably not too fussy how it plays out: a) has a year where he starts getting picked again somehow and gets offered a new deal b) has a year in/out the team with a massive payday when his contract is up non-surprising wildcard c) club slander him repeatadly in a snide effort to recoup a fee this summer to avoid b. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Shocking proofreading and journalism - he is going to "quite": http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/hatem-ben-arfa-negotiations-quite-7277276 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Shocking proofreading and journalism - he is going to "quite": http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/hatem-ben-arfa-negotiations-quite-7277276 And slagging off Hatem for games that the whole team were shit in not just him, and not a mention of Pardew's abysmal tactics and football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBG Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 Ben Arfa also failed to reach his full potential last term and endured some shocking performances at Southampton, Everton and at home to Spurs. He was brought on when we were 2-0 down to try and save the king. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 "Shocking" performances it's the same with Rooney, has to be extreme. Bloody ridiculous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MW Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 Everton should sign him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 Prety sure I saw a another stat on Messi - losing the ball more than any other player in the Argentina/Bosnia game. Would love to see Pardew justify not playing Messi due to lack of keeping the ball Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 Aye that would be mint. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 Prety sure I saw a another stat on Messi - losing the ball more than any other player in the Argentina/Bosnia game. Would love to see Pardew justify not playing Messi due to lack of keeping the ball That Bosnia game was the perfect example of why it's utterly retarded to bring off your best and most unpredictable player at half time if he's having a sub-par game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 Messi was pretty rubbish first half but yes, it's precisely why you don't do that. Hatem's the same, could lose the ball 5 times in a row but on the 6th will create/score a worldy. Argentina are set-up for this exactly. Strangely enough, with our constant back 6/7, so are we, but it doesn't pan out like that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 Pardew's a fucking idiot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 Messi was pretty rubbish first half but yes, it's precisely why you don't do that. Hatem's the same, could lose the ball 5 times in a row but on the 6th will create/score a worldy. Argentina are set-up for this exactly. Strangely enough, with our constant back 6/7, so are we, but it doesn't pan out like that. Yep, this is the weirdest thing. In theory a match-winner like Ben Arfa is exactly what Pardew's hyper-cautious approach actually needs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 I didn't see the game on Sunday but from experience, if Messi gives the ball away it's in around the area trying to play intricate 1-2s and things like that. Ben Arfa is often down to decision making, taking on one too many, over running it for a goal kick, not playing the simple available pass. No excuse for why HBA shouldn't be in the team, he'd be first name on team sheet, but the Messi stat comparison is silly imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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