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Guest JS Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Players who graft too much are gimps. Usually just shows a player who doesn't know how to conserve energy or who has zero on pitch intelligence. Messi never runs out of possession. He's the laziest c*** in the world and also the best c*** in the world. Even your world class grafters like Suarez do it intelligently and have plenty of time where they stand hands on hips waiting for the ball. Ben Arfa's workrate was absolutely fine for a creative player when he played for NUFC. His professionalism away from the pitch slipped, but that was long after Pardew had repeatedly and almost routinely thrown him under the bus to save his own reputation, the horrible f***ing c*** that he is. This Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Are they not playing Benny essentially as a striker at Nice? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Cruyff used to say any forward players who ran about loads were just idiots. Good enough for me. Yep, this. Why do you want forwards and wingers to be running chasing balls and tracking back all the time? Sure, sometimes you have to get back but in general they should save their energy for running towards the opposition goal, not running away from it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Canny words from Cruyff like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Have people been talking absolute nonsense again? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 A reminder. This is from ages ago, but if we were to update it, it would work even more in HBA's favour considering the staggering ineptitude of the alternatives. FWIW, I worked this out the other week for all these '1 game in 10' idiots. Gouffran and Sissoko's stats are slightly out as a result, but neither have scored since, so if anything it's doing them a favour. Mata's is out as well because he's scored against Liverpool since this. HBA (48 starts) 1 goal per 3.5 PL starts 1 assist per 4 PL starts Gouffran (56 starts) 1 goal per 6 PL starts 1 assist per PL 14 starts Obertan (26 starts) 1 goal per 13 PL starts 1 assist per 4 PL starts R. Taylor (31 starts) 1 goal per 10 PL starts 1 assist per 6 PL starts Sissoko (61 starts) 1 goal per 8 PL starts 1 assist per 7 PL starts ...and now just for fun, compare him to an undoubtedly world class player, about the same age, playing in the same position, dropped for apparently not tracking back and being lazy, recently sold for £37 million. Juan Mata (96 starts) 1 goal per 3.5 PL starts 1 assist per 3 PL starts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sho Time Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 But where's the distance covered stats ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Geordiesned Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 He then asked Ben Arfa why as he's meant to be a number 10 and Benny laughed in his face. EDIT: mayyyyyn. Anyway why would anyone attend a Steve Bruce talk in? Wallsend Boys Club anniversary do a few weeks ago. He was one of many speakers over the evening. At same do Bruce said he'd had a conversation with Ben Arfa where Ben Arfa told him he wasn't a footballer he was an artist. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Geordiesned Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Put one of the worst performances I've ever seen in the Newcastle shirt against Everton at home. You can't have watched us much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 I can't even begin to tell you how frustrated I'd be in a scenario where Steve Bruce is slagging off HBA and I'm surrounded by people lauding it. I'd have some sort of anxiety attack and have to gtfo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 He then asked Ben Arfa why as he's meant to be a number 10 and Benny laughed in his face. EDIT: mayyyyyn. Anyway why would anyone attend a Steve Bruce talk in? Wallsend Boys Club anniversary do a few weeks ago. He was one of many speakers over the evening. At same do Bruce said he'd had a conversation with Ben Arfa where Ben Arfa told him he wasn't a footballer he was an artist. Did he do some sort of loud pre-planned, self-satisfied chuckle after he'd said it? Followed by an "ahhh dinaa, kids these days, eh?" headshake whilst looking at the floor? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Put one of the worst performances I've ever seen in the Newcastle shirt against Everton at home. Coming on after an hour when we're 2-0 down and already getting absolutely humiliated? Pardew's favourite trick worked on so many people. It was away as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 There was a home match that Ben Arfa and Marv came on as subs and Pardew scapegoated the fuck out them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Cruyff used to say any forward players who ran about loads were just idiots. Good enough for me. Yep, this. Why do you want forwards and wingers to be running chasing balls and tracking back all the time? Sure, sometimes you have to get back but in general they should save their energy for running towards the opposition goal, not running away from it. In a team where generally Cisse was the only player who didn't have to defend much, I think we could have afforded at least one more attacking outlet. How people can regard Pardew being a horrible negative cunt and Ben Arfa losing his place in the side and ultimately at the club as mutually exclusive concepts is beyond me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 A reminder. This is from ages ago, but if we were to update it, it would work even more in HBA's favour considering the staggering ineptitude of the alternatives. FWIW, I worked this out the other week for all these '1 game in 10' idiots. Gouffran and Sissoko's stats are slightly out as a result, but neither have scored since, so if anything it's doing them a favour. Mata's is out as well because he's scored against Liverpool since this. HBA (48 starts) 1 goal per 3.5 PL starts 1 assist per 4 PL starts Gouffran (56 starts) 1 goal per 6 PL starts 1 assist per PL 14 starts Obertan (26 starts) 1 goal per 13 PL starts 1 assist per 4 PL starts R. Taylor (31 starts) 1 goal per 10 PL starts 1 assist per 6 PL starts Sissoko (61 starts) 1 goal per 8 PL starts 1 assist per 7 PL starts ...and now just for fun, compare him to an undoubtedly world class player, about the same age, playing in the same position, dropped for apparently not tracking back and being lazy, recently sold for £37 million. Juan Mata (96 starts) 1 goal per 3.5 PL starts 1 assist per 3 PL starts. Good post but Mata is not world class. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 please try, I've discovered a way to turn tedium into pizza and I'm starving Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 A reminder. This is from ages ago, but if we were to update it, it would work even more in HBA's favour considering the staggering ineptitude of the alternatives. FWIW, I worked this out the other week for all these '1 game in 10' idiots. Gouffran and Sissoko's stats are slightly out as a result, but neither have scored since, so if anything it's doing them a favour. Mata's is out as well because he's scored against Liverpool since this. HBA (48 starts) 1 goal per 3.5 PL starts 1 assist per 4 PL starts Gouffran (56 starts) 1 goal per 6 PL starts 1 assist per PL 14 starts Obertan (26 starts) 1 goal per 13 PL starts 1 assist per 4 PL starts R. Taylor (31 starts) 1 goal per 10 PL starts 1 assist per 6 PL starts Sissoko (61 starts) 1 goal per 8 PL starts 1 assist per 7 PL starts ...and now just for fun, compare him to an undoubtedly world class player, about the same age, playing in the same position, dropped for apparently not tracking back and being lazy, recently sold for £37 million. Juan Mata (96 starts) 1 goal per 3.5 PL starts 1 assist per 3 PL starts. Good post but Mata is not world class. That's from nearly a year ago like, it was when Mourinho wasn't playing him despite him having had a great season previously. Personally think he's world class like, but everyone looks boring in that boring Man United team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootGol Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Just been called up for France for their friendlies against England and Germany Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Hope he Mullers Germany. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Just been called up for France for their friendlies against England and Germany Get in! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Absolutely chuffed for him. Pardew is a fucking prick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Fanticising about him scoring against England now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Fucking GET IN! Gonna have to get a Benny France shirt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 I might go the France game now, any takers? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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