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He's such a fucking genius. He's just an absolute genius. We had a genius and we threw him out. A guy that can make everything out of nothing couldn't play because....who the hell knows. That's the type of person they choose to lead the team. This club will be shit 50 years from now. It's ingrained in at this point.

 

Someone yesterday made a good point about how in a way because he was so much better than the rest of the team, he actually had less of a license to try things and fail because the rest of the team wasn't good enough to regain possession. If we'd had a team that was good enough (or in our collective opinion, that was managed properly) he'd have been able to do more, more often and even the dumbest in our fanbase would probably see that he's worth playing every game.

 

Think it's wishful thinking though, unless we get a manager who comes and completely transforms the club and the mindset of the fans in the way that Wenger did at Arsenal, we've essentially got no chance.

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I've never seen a player with his acceleration and control at high speed TBH, Messi comes close.

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Exactly who that reminds me of. Terrific stuff. Very frustrating for us. Sad.

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Drink it in, lads/Jill. Or create a PowerPoint presentation about why it went so wrong and how Hatem could have done better.

 

Posting again so we can watch on this page. :love:

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He's such a fucking genius. He's just an absolute genius. We had a genius and we threw him out. A guy that can make everything out of nothing couldn't play because....who the hell knows. That's the type of person they choose to lead the team. This club will be shit 50 years from now. It's ingrained in at this point.

 

Someone yesterday made a good point about how in a way because he was so much better than the rest of the team, he actually had less of a license to try things and fail because the rest of the team wasn't good enough to regain possession. If we'd had a team that was good enough (or in our collective opinion, that was managed properly) he'd have been able to do more, more often and even the dumbest in our fanbase would probably see that he's worth playing every game.

 

Think it's wishful thinking though, unless we get a manager who comes and completely transforms the club and the mindset of the fans in the way that Wenger did at Arsenal, we've essentially got no chance.

 

They stumbled on an out of favor player that was available cheap. He turned out to be more than we could have ever imagined, but not enough to motivate the idiots in charge to build something worthwhile with him at the forefront. That's why this club will forever be irrelevant. Nothing is bigger than the plan to keep the billionaire rich. Football doesn't mean shit here. Who cares if the product is garbage. As long as we stay up we're golden.

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He's such a fucking genius. He's just an absolute genius. We had a genius and we threw him out. A guy that can make everything out of nothing couldn't play because....who the hell knows. That's the type of person they choose to lead the team. This club will be shit 50 years from now. It's ingrained in at this point.

 

Someone yesterday made a good point about how in a way because he was so much better than the rest of the team, he actually had less of a license to try things and fail because the rest of the team wasn't good enough to regain possession. If we'd had a team that was good enough (or in our collective opinion, that was managed properly) he'd have been able to do more, more often and even the dumbest in our fanbase would probably see that he's worth playing every game.

 

Think it's wishful thinking though, unless we get a manager who comes and completely transforms the club and the mindset of the fans in the way that Wenger did at Arsenal, we've essentially got no chance.

 

They stumbled on an out of favor player that was available cheap. He turned out to be more than we could have ever imagined, but not enough to motivate the idiots in charge to build something worthwhile with him at the forefront. That's why this club will forever be irrelevant. Nothing is bigger than the plan to keep the billionaire rich. Football doesn't mean shit here. Who cares if the product is garbage. As long as we stay up we're golden.

 

In 50 years Ashley will definitely be long gone, we have time Michael.

 

We'll get his spoiled, disinterested son that knows even less about running a football club though, obviously. :lol:

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Nice v St Etienne 4 days after my birthday on May 7th.  Tempted to treat myself to a bit of Ben Arfa watching as a present  :smitten:

 

Nice - ASSE.

 

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He's such a fucking genius. He's just an absolute genius. We had a genius and we threw him out. A guy that can make everything out of nothing couldn't play because....who the hell knows. That's the type of person they choose to lead the team. This club will be shit 50 years from now. It's ingrained in at this point.

 

Someone yesterday made a good point about how in a way because he was so much better than the rest of the team, he actually had less of a license to try things and fail because the rest of the team wasn't good enough to regain possession. If we'd had a team that was good enough (or in our collective opinion, that was managed properly) he'd have been able to do more, more often and even the dumbest in our fanbase would probably see that he's worth playing every game.

 

Think it's wishful thinking though, unless we get a manager who comes and completely transforms the club and the mindset of the fans in the way that Wenger did at Arsenal, we've essentially got no chance.

 

They stumbled on an out of favor player that was available cheap. He turned out to be more than we could have ever imagined, but not enough to motivate the idiots in charge to build something worthwhile with him at the forefront. That's why this club will forever be irrelevant. Nothing is bigger than the plan to keep the billionaire rich. Football doesn't mean shit here. Who cares if the product is garbage. As long as we stay up we're golden.

 

In 50 years Ashley will definitely be long gone, we have time Michael.

 

We'll get his spoiled, disinterested son that knows even less about running a football club though, obviously. :lol:

 

Unless a Newcastle fan buys the club, or some oligarch looking for a way to play with his blood money nothing will ever change. There are more Ashleys out there.

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He's such a fucking genius. He's just an absolute genius. We had a genius and we threw him out. A guy that can make everything out of nothing couldn't play because....who the hell knows. That's the type of person they choose to lead the team. This club will be shit 50 years from now. It's ingrained in at this point.

 

Someone yesterday made a good point about how in a way because he was so much better than the rest of the team, he actually had less of a license to try things and fail because the rest of the team wasn't good enough to regain possession. If we'd had a team that was good enough (or in our collective opinion, that was managed properly) he'd have been able to do more, more often and even the dumbest in our fanbase would probably see that he's worth playing every game.

 

Think it's wishful thinking though, unless we get a manager who comes and completely transforms the club and the mindset of the fans in the way that Wenger did at Arsenal, we've essentially got no chance.

 

They stumbled on an out of favor player that was available cheap. He turned out to be more than we could have ever imagined, but not enough to motivate the idiots in charge to build something worthwhile with him at the forefront. That's why this club will forever be irrelevant. Nothing is bigger than the plan to keep the billionaire rich. Football doesn't mean shit here. Who cares if the product is garbage. As long as we stay up we're golden.

 

In 50 years Ashley will definitely be long gone, we have time Michael.

 

We'll get his spoiled, disinterested son that knows even less about running a football club though, obviously. [emoji38]

Yeah it's all Ashley tbh, we used to lap flair up before he arrived. Just a shame Ben Arfa was here under the most slippery flak-dodger that's ever been a manager.

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He's such a f***ing genius. He's just an absolute genius. We had a genius and we threw him out. A guy that can make everything out of nothing couldn't play because....who the hell knows. That's the type of person they choose to lead the team. This club will be s*** 50 years from now. It's ingrained in at this point.

 

Someone yesterday made a good point about how in a way because he was so much better than the rest of the team, he actually had less of a license to try things and fail because the rest of the team wasn't good enough to regain possession. If we'd had a team that was good enough (or in our collective opinion, that was managed properly) he'd have been able to do more, more often and even the dumbest in our fanbase would probably see that he's worth playing every game.

 

Think it's wishful thinking though, unless we get a manager who comes and completely transforms the club and the mindset of the fans in the way that Wenger did at Arsenal, we've essentially got no chance.

 

They stumbled on an out of favor player that was available cheap. He turned out to be more than we could have ever imagined, but not enough to motivate the idiots in charge to build something worthwhile with him at the forefront. That's why this club will forever be irrelevant. Nothing is bigger than the plan to keep the billionaire rich. Football doesn't mean s*** here. Who cares if the product is garbage. As long as we stay up we're golden.

 

In 50 years Ashley will definitely be long gone, we have time Michael.

 

We'll get his spoiled, disinterested son that knows even less about running a football club though, obviously. :lol:

 

Unless a Newcastle fan buys the club, or some oligarch looking for a way to play with his blood money nothing will ever change. There are more Ashleys out there.

 

No there are far less Ashleys out there. Most people who spend that much money on a sporting team want said team to win something, or believe they can build something that could compete for a title or something.

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He's such a fucking genius. He's just an absolute genius. We had a genius and we threw him out. A guy that can make everything out of nothing couldn't play because....who the hell knows. That's the type of person they choose to lead the team. This club will be shit 50 years from now. It's ingrained in at this point.

 

Someone yesterday made a good point about how in a way because he was so much better than the rest of the team, he actually had less of a license to try things and fail because the rest of the team wasn't good enough to regain possession. If we'd had a team that was good enough (or in our collective opinion, that was managed properly) he'd have been able to do more, more often and even the dumbest in our fanbase would probably see that he's worth playing every game.

 

Think it's wishful thinking though, unless we get a manager who comes and completely transforms the club and the mindset of the fans in the way that Wenger did at Arsenal, we've essentially got no chance.

 

They stumbled on an out of favor player that was available cheap. He turned out to be more than we could have ever imagined, but not enough to motivate the idiots in charge to build something worthwhile with him at the forefront. That's why this club will forever be irrelevant. Nothing is bigger than the plan to keep the billionaire rich. Football doesn't mean shit here. Who cares if the product is garbage. As long as we stay up we're golden.

 

In 50 years Ashley will definitely be long gone, we have time Michael.

 

We'll get his spoiled, disinterested son that knows even less about running a football club though, obviously. [emoji38]

 

Unless a Newcastle fan buys the club, or some oligarch looking for a way to play with his blood money nothing will ever change. There are more Ashleys out there.

Nah I don't think so, Ben Arfa was the perfect Newcastle player but a few years too late. Going forward, who knows I suppose but I still think our fans will always love that type of player if we're not constantly in the midst of a crisis or relegation dogfight.

 

Surely someone will buy into that tradition, I'd say it's rotten bad luck that it hasn't happened so far. Turning us around as a club seems an attractive proposition to me, imagine being the man that did that.

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I came to this thread after seeing that video of pure footballing beauty and people are complaining that he didn't pass? If he rolls the ball smoothly with his final touch he scores and it's one of the best goals of the last 12 months.

 

I've watched that video like 20 times. I haven't re-watched anything from the last 18 months that involves NUFC. Says it all.

 

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I'm just happy to get to watch him, I don't want him at this version of Newcastle anymore, he's better off there where I can enjoy watching him without bellends screaming for him to pass it or him coming on with 10 minutes left.

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