Budgie Smuggler Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 Jeering him when he was subbed off was absolutely shameful. Really embarrassed by our support on Saturday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 Jeering him when he was subbed off was absolutely shameful. Really embarrassed by our support on Saturday. Aye. I wasn’t there but by all accounts it’s gardly just a few bad apples. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCONA Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 It was a loud jeer. Similar to what you'd expect if someone had tripped over. Except it wasn't funny at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St1pe Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 The criticism this lad gets is way over the top. Even from the highlights of the game at the weekend he’s usually involved in some degree with anything good we do but it’s overshadowed by his lack of cutting edge in the final third. I don’t think it’s much of a surprise that when he’s playing well we usually win and the opposite if he isn’t. That 10 position seems to be critical to Rafa’s system working but he simply doesn’t have an alternative to Ayoze. For what it’s worth I don’t think he’s good enough to be relied upon but I can’t think of a single example where a home crowd has turned on a player as much and it’s resulted in a positive outcome. We know who’s to blame. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Away Day Gadgie Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 You can’t criticise the Soopa Fans! After all they turn up to support the team no matter what. And also no one will tell them to not go cos they’re Soopa Fans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 Jeering him when he was subbed off was absolutely shameful. Really embarrassed by our support on Saturday. yeah, but at least they supported the team and didnt get involved with the stupid 11 minute protest thing....oh wait. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FustinoSolano Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 I think it's at the point now where he needs to be taken out of the team, when fans are (wrongly) reacting like that it won't take much to turn it into a really toxic atmosphere. The problem as ever is who comes in for him?? I was there on Saturday and he was dreadful, you can forgive lack of ability, pace etc but his body language is appalling, half hearted runs when closing people down, begging for free kicks off the ref when it's a perfectly good challenge. The most frustrating thing is when he gets the ball in a good position you know he's going to lose it, it happened on so many occasions I actually lost count. Only thing you can say is our 3 or 4 best chances fell to him so he's not hiding but each one reeked of a player who is struggling and has zero confidence. Rewind a few years to that backheel vs WBA and you would think it's a completely different player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 I think it's at the point now where he needs to be taken out of the team, when fans are (wrongly) reacting like that it won't take much to turn it into a really toxic atmosphere. The problem as ever is who comes in for him?? i don't think he'd have been starting anymore had muto not been injured Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 Wow, I completely forgot Muto existed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ElCid Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 I think it's at the point now where he needs to be taken out of the team, when fans are (wrongly) reacting like that it won't take much to turn it into a really toxic atmosphere. The problem as ever is who comes in for him?? i don't think he'd have been starting anymore had muto not been injured Was he injured I'm sure Benitez said he was fit although I agree he probably would not have started but why was he not on the bench Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karjala Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 Perez still shite, always has been. Weak as piss. Biggest weak link in our team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 I like the term "Colbackistas" used by someone in this thread to describe the recent regulars who frequent this thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raconteur Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 I think it's at the point now where he needs to be taken out of the team, when fans are (wrongly) reacting like that it won't take much to turn it into a really toxic atmosphere. The problem as ever is who comes in for him?? I was there on Saturday and he was dreadful, you can forgive lack of ability, pace etc but his body language is appalling, half hearted runs when closing people down, begging for free kicks off the ref when it's a perfectly good challenge. The most frustrating thing is when he gets the ball in a good position you know he's going to lose it, it happened on so many occasions I actually lost count. Only thing you can say is our 3 or 4 best chances fell to him so he's not hiding but each one reeked of a player who is struggling and has zero confidence. Rewind a few years to that backheel vs WBA and you would think it's a completely different player. It’s an interesting dilemma - withdraw him and potentially devastate his shredded confidence, or play through it and absorb crowd hostility (as well as the impact on the team) until he finds form. It’s also true that possibly his best attributes - the technique and vision to see those flicks and six-yard finishes - have deserted him with his form and confidence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsprillasShinPad Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 Wow, I completely forgot Muto existed. Which is a real shame, because Muto looks decent. How the fuck Perez is keeping anyone out of the team is one of the greatest unsolved mysteries of today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 a hate him so much Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridman Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 Perez still shite, always has been. Weak as piss. Biggest weak link in our team. Absolutely criminal we didn't invest in better full-backs and a new 10 this summer, we'd be a much better and balanced side. Perez has 1 goal and one assist in 14 games so far and contributes very little otherwise. Can't hurt to give Muto a chance for a few games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsprillasShinPad Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 I think it's at the point now where he needs to be taken out of the team, when fans are (wrongly) reacting like that it won't take much to turn it into a really toxic atmosphere. The problem as ever is who comes in for him?? I was there on Saturday and he was dreadful, you can forgive lack of ability, pace etc but his body language is appalling, half hearted runs when closing people down, begging for free kicks off the ref when it's a perfectly good challenge. The most frustrating thing is when he gets the ball in a good position you know he's going to lose it, it happened on so many occasions I actually lost count. Only thing you can say is our 3 or 4 best chances fell to him so he's not hiding but each one reeked of a player who is struggling and has zero confidence. Rewind a few years to that backheel vs WBA and you would think it's a completely different player. He definitely needs dropping for a few games, it's not like he cost us a fortune and we need a return on the fee. He's beyond shit and playing anyone else would be preferable. Maybe he needs a bit of focused coaching to get him to stay on his feet and play for the team. Maybe a bit of time in the reserves to get his confidence back. Either that or accept any bid for him in Jan. He needs to hit the reset button on his career for his own good and ours. He's seriously hurting the team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 I know this is going to be a tough ask, but can those who beww him tonight do it loud enough so we can hear the away end on the cameras? Cheers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 I've been one of his biggest critics but it's not his fault he's the number 10 and shouldn't get boo'd. Apart from his first 4-5 months here. At a PL level he's consistently been pap for us and has consistently played through it. It's just now the boo boys have targeted him. Samething happened with Sissoko. He played more or less to a similar standard when he was being "Pardewed", over-rated, then worse than shit. He was performing to similar levels except perceptions had changed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Did well at the back end of last season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 As Trumpism has proved, people have incredibly short memories. Even more so when statistics and data are readily available that counter their own basic-bitch-in-a-knockoff-prada worldview. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Did well at the back end of last season That's true but so did everyone. Kenedy's regressed worse imo. Ritchie's dipped etc. I think Perez could be a decent proper striker off the bench. But he is what he is. 1.5m punt from the Spanish second division. The dangermen at the likes of Everton and West Ham - teams we should compete with - cost £30 to £50m. That's the gulf in class. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsprillasShinPad Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Did well at the back end of last season That's true but so did everyone. Kenedy's regressed worse imo. Ritchie's dipped etc. I think Perez could be a decent proper striker off the bench. But he is what he is. 1.5m punt from the Spanish second division. The dangermen at the likes of Everton and West Ham - teams we should compete with - cost £30 to £50m. That's the gulf in class. Totally agree. You get what you pay for unfortunately for us, and with the FCB in charge, we are only going to get Lee Cooper and Firetrap rather than Ferrari or Rolex. Such a shame about Richie though, there is definitely a good player there, but he's regressed so much for some reason. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbers Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Can you change the title to the correct pronunciation please its confusing. It should read Ayothe Pereth. Confirmed by the commentator using it again tonight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raconteur Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Can you change the title to the correct pronunciation please its confusing. It should read Ayothe Pereth. Confirmed by the commentator using it again tonight. After the Almiron incident, Rafa has clearly briefed the press on how to pronounce Spanish names Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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