Cronky Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 He's a bit like Rooney, in that he can do a decent job in any attacking position, wide or central, forward or withdrawn. At the moment, I'd keep playing him as lead striker, because that's where he's most needed. Ultimately, where you play him really depends on who else we have around. I could see him doing well with a similar player, like the partnership that Yorke and Cole once had. That might well be better than playing him around a big centre forward. In assessing him, you just have to ignore his physique. He's far stronger than he looks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 Wasn't enjoying this thread being bumped on this day. Thankfully nothing to worry about. Not this time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 In a perfect world you have Ayoze, De Jong, and Cabella in an interchangble front 3 in advanced positions finding space and time to either feed eachother or Cisse. Moussa showed some really good positional discipline v Hull ( i know it was Hull ). And I think he's got that in his locker. When he breaks forward on the counter, we have Abeid holding back who has the pace and strength to cover if we get overexposed. ( i hope) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzza Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 How did he play yesterday? Did he look fresh? What position Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 How did he play yesterday? Did he look fresh? What position Was beyond isolated in the first half; second half he was involved and linked well with Cabella and Sissoko. Couple of decent efforts, had Arsenal worried. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzza Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 cheers! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 Can't wait for when one of his curlers to the far post goes in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 Needs to play in a 2 upfront or a #10.. or wide. He doens't get enough touches up front by himself and he can't hold it up for love nor money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
morla84 Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 Honoured to have been this slick little bastards stepping stone Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 Love the way he receives the ball and turns so quickly, always thinking ahead, such a classy player and also works hard, what a waste he is playing for this fucking mess. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Parka Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Will join the ever growing ranks of players too good for the club. I feel sorry for him in this team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Along with Janmaat and Cabella, he's one of the few players I actually like. Really think he's going to be a top player (somewhere else). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Not even bothered that he's not scored since December, he's achieved more this season that I had hoped Apart from the header last night and the Sunderland volley, I can barely remember us creating a chance for him since he last scored either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Not even bothered that he's not scored since December, he's achieved more this season that I had hoped Apart from the header last night and the Sunderland volley, I can barely remember us creating a chance for him since he last scored either. It's partly his fault. He's useless with his back to goal, he can rarely bring others into play. That's not his fault, he looks like a second striker to me or a #10. But he can't play the CF role properly yet and it's contributing to his lack of chances. Unfortunately, he's only marginally inferior to Riviere at that part of the game and leaps ahead in everything else. You don't just create chances for a striker up front by himself easily. He often has to contribute to the build-up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Not even bothered that he's not scored since December, he's achieved more this season that I had hoped Apart from the header last night and the Sunderland volley, I can barely remember us creating a chance for him since he last scored either. It's partly his fault. He's useless with his back to goal, he can rarely bring others into play. That's not his fault, he looks like a second striker to me or a #10. But he can't play the CF role properly yet and it's contributing to his lack of chances. Unfortunately, he's only marginally inferior to Riviere at that part of the game and leaps ahead in everything else. You don't just create chances for a striker up front by himself easily. He often has to contribute to the build-up. Eh? that's complete nonsense. You've just said he looks like a number ten, but he can rarely bring others into play. He's no good with the ball hoofed at him, no. He's absolutely fine with it at his feet. You would expect a striker to be bring others into play often with his back to goal being pressured by a defender. Whether it's feet, chest or head. He's not really good at any of those with his back to goal. He's great at bringing others into play when facing goal that's why I say he's a #10. Even a small lad like Sergio Aguero is great at fending off defenders and dealing with balls chest height. And even he is often played alongside a striker that can do all 3. I want Perez facing goal at all times. AM, second striker of a two or wide imo. He doesn't have that blistering pace to be off the shoulder either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 He's absolutely fine when the ball is played to his feet with his back to goal. When we're launching at him he's got no chance and no one with his height would Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 He's absolutely fine when the ball is played to his feet with his back to goal. When we're launching at him he's got no chance and no one with his height would Yep. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 What's playing properly? All the top sides in the division play with strikers that can hold it up properly. Perez can't. Unless he gets stronger he'll have to play deeper. A chest height, even a lump forward is something all teams have to do. I know it's not glamorous but it's an invaluable role to have in a team. Man U, Arsenal, Chelsea & City all have players capable of doing the above. I've also been very impressed with Kane's ability to hold off defenders and lay it to team mates. Perez doesn't do that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Perez has been plucked from Tenerife, where he's been allowed to develop as an effective AM, and been thrown into a different league and culture as an orthodox #9 with the responsibility to compete for long hoofs with 2 big CH's with virtually no support for 30 yards. I'll cut him a bit of slack tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 What's playing properly? All the top sides in the division play with strikers that can hold it up properly. Perez can't. Unless he gets stronger he'll have to play deeper. A chest height, even a lump forward is something all teams have to do. I know it's not glamorous but it's an invaluable role to have in a team. Man U, Arsenal, Chelsea & City all have players capable of doing the above. I've also been very impressed with Kane's ability to hold off defenders and lay it to team mates. Perez doesn't do that. Aguero isn't much kop at winning headers against the like of Shawcross. He also doesn't do very well to chest high balls pinged to him with a CB righ up his jacksy and not a team mate within 20 yards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsley Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 What's playing properly? All the top sides in the division play with strikers that can hold it up properly. Perez can't. Unless he gets stronger he'll have to play deeper. A chest height, even a lump forward is something all teams have to do. I know it's not glamorous but it's an invaluable role to have in a team. Man U, Arsenal, Chelsea & City all have players capable of doing the above. I've also been very impressed with Kane's ability to hold off defenders and lay it to team mates. Perez doesn't do that. Aguero isn't much kop at winning headers against the like of Shawcross. He also doesn't do very well to chest high balls pinged to him with a CB righ up his jacksy and not a team mate within 20 yards. ...which is why the high balls are pinged up to Dzeko/Bony instead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 From what I've seen most teams who 'have to lump it forward' lose it 95% of the time they do it anyway. Even the ones with big strikers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Perez has been plucked from Tenerife, where he's been allowed to develop as an effective AM, and been thrown into a different league and culture as an orthodox #9 with the responsibility to compete for long hoofs with 2 big CH's with virtually no support for 30 yards. I'll cut him a bit of slack tbh. Nobody is blaming him. He's just not suited to the role he's been asked to play. Aguero fends off defenders magnificently. Brilliant at trapping balls with his chest and warding off defenders. And like Parsley mentions, he's usually partnered with someone who is bigger and stronger. From what I've seen most teams who 'have to lump it forward' lose it 95% of the time they do it anyway. Even the ones with big strikers. It's not all lumps forward. Often teams get the ball forward quickly. Chest height, sometimes in the air. Lone strikers are there to make it stick. Look at both of S'hampton's goals against us. Both come from passes either into Pelle's chest or head. None are big lumps as such but they are long-balls. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
soyt Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 There has been only one team in recent history which did not have to go more direct every now and then. Pep Guardiolas Barca. Other teams need to try different stuff, even tho they would prefer playing into feet. Clubs like Newcastle cant afford to have just plan A. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 There has been only one team in recent history which did not have to go more direct every now and then. Pep Guardiolas Barca. Other teams need to try different stuff, even tho they would prefer playing into feet. Clubs like Newcastle cant afford to have just plan A. Let's start with a plan A though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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