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River fans were dropping bags full of shit down onto the Boca fans.  What the fuck?!

 

Be surprised given that away fans are banned currently in Argentina unless happened away from the ground.

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MOTD2 asking if Martinez should be under pressure, after watching that performance  :lol:

 

They will clearly start picking up results eventually.

 

These same guys won't have abad word said about Pardew. Incredible.

 

:lol: Silly Roberto should have been born in England.

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Of course. Though you'd both pick Ronaldo over him in an instant if your lives depended on your team winning the title. It's old guff.

 

Except Ronaldo has won one league title in his time at Madrid. His goals has never guaranteed winning things and it still doesn't.

 

 

 

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I like Zidane more. Ronaldo is clearly better. Sorted.

 

Better at what?  Goalscoring against non contenders?  Sure but that doesn't mean he's better if it did then Messi overtook Maradona when he was 21.

 

There's a lot more to consider than just stats, especially when the large majority of those stats at Madrid haven't translated to league titles and a lot of the goals happen when the game is already over.

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I like Zidane more. Ronaldo is clearly better. Sorted.

Depends what situation. In a league you would pick Ronaldo but in a cup final you would probably pick Zidane

Ronaldo in both, comfortably.

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I like Zidane more. Ronaldo is clearly better. Sorted.

 

Better at what?  Goalscoring against non contenders?  Sure but that doesn't mean he's better if it did then Messi overtook Maradona when he was 21.

 

There's a lot more to consider than just stats, especially when the large majority of those stats at Madrid haven't translated to league titles and a lot of the goals happen when the game is already over.

Just think it's fairly obvious that you'd have Ronaldo. I'm not a stats person but ignoring Ronaldo's stats would be stupid tbh. Pointless bringing Messi into it, considering he's comfortably the best player most of us have ever seen.

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People might want to sound hip, cool, knowledgable or whatever by saying different, but Messi and and Cristiano are the 2 greatest players of the this generartion and that is a fact.  A fact that shouldn't even have to be argued.

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Ronaldo has consistently looked a class above even the best players for pretty much his entire career. Certainly can't say the say the about same Zidane. Messi and Ronaldo have clearly and undisputably been the world's top two players for 7-8 seasons or so now. Zidane, whilst a legend, never got anywhere near that kind of dominance.

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Yet both won the equal amount of league and CL titles in the equal amount of years at Real. I think Zidane made other around him better and would therefore rather build a team around him. I'm also one of those that rate the WC as the best competition to win so my opinion is maybe not entirely reflective of their club careers.

 

:thup: Ronaldo is an utterly ridiculous man. No-one comes close in my generation other than Messi.

 

Messi over the years is more successful and better than CRonaldo man. Not even close in my opinion. It's not until Messi started getting injuries here and there that Ronaldo got close to him and over-lapped him in terms of the best in the world.

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