Mole_Toonfan Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 You can't really make a judgement so far though, the sample size is just so damn small Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 Last season he played one game and had one sub appearance, and managed to get a goal as well as have a good preseason, this year he's had a decent preseason and looked alright at the weekend, it's far to early to tell but I think he has what it takes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 I still feel like I haven't seen him play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sugoinufc Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 I still feel like I haven't seen him play. you haven´t Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 He's actually a supremely intelligent footballer with great movement and ability to finish either foot (tap-ins or volleys) and use his head. He's literally just been out of playing for so long and needs to regain that sharpness. He plays the ball very quickly (usually first time or quick control and pass). I want him to do well here and think he can, but as of right now - I'd push Gini back and get Ayoze as the #10. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ads Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 Baffling to see some doubters on here. Of course he's had his injury troubles but when he's fit the guy could be our best player for some time; incredibly intelligent, composed, great passer of the ball, excellent finisher. If he can put his injury troubles behind him he should be the first name on the team sheet for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy84 Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 He's actually a supremely intelligent footballer with great movement and ability to finish either foot (tap-ins or volleys) and use his head. He's literally just been out of playing for so long and needs to regain that sharpness. He plays the ball very quickly (usually first time or quick control and pass). I want him to do well here and think he can, but as of right now - I'd push Gini back and get Ayoze as the #10. Totally agree. Perez would add another dimension to our side Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 I don't disagree. But he needs to be surrounded by pace for one, and we need to be playing much further up the pitch. We of course saw him on when we didn't look like we were going to attack anymore. Anita, Gini, Aarons/Perez, Sissoko and you've got the right surrounding players for Siem IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sho Time Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 Baffling to see some doubters on here. Of course he's had his injury troubles but when he's fit the guy could be our best player for some time; incredibly intelligent, composed, great passer of the ball, excellent finisher. If he can put his injury troubles behind him he should be the first name on the team sheet for me. It's a big if, but if he can put everything behind him and get back the form he showed at Ajax he would improve us immensely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 Baffling to see some doubters on here. Of course he's had his injury troubles but when he's fit the guy could be our best player for some time; incredibly intelligent, composed, great passer of the ball, excellent finisher. If he can put his injury troubles behind him he should be the first name on the team sheet for me. Came in to say the same thing. He came on Sunday when we were against the wall, he hardly got to see the ball. When he starts games and playing like we did on Saturday he'll be a huge asset. Mental some of the stuff in here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Sissoko, De Jong and winegum in midfield with mitrovic holding the ball up seems like a good away team to me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Sissoko, De Jong and winegum in midfield with mitrovic holding the ball up seems like a good away team to me you're assuming anita is injured i take it? if not he should be a guaranteed starter just now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 In confident De Jong will come good if he stays fit. Saw him a fair bit at Ajax and thought he was class. Only played a handful of games for us but the goal he scored at the end of last season shows his composure and technique. He'll get eased in, he played what 4 games in all of last year? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 I'm really confused by SDJ so far, nothing I've seen makes me think he can be a good Premier League #10. He just seems to have really poor movement and generally looks sluggish and slow. I'm assuming he was a far better player for Ajax? Pre injury, Pro fitness and all? His movement's one of his best attributes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 I'm really confused by SDJ so far, nothing I've seen makes me think he can be a good Premier League #10. He just seems to have really poor movement and generally looks sluggish and slow. I'm assuming he was a far better player for Ajax? Pre injury, Pro fitness and all? His movement's one of his best attributes. aye, his off the ball movement looks quality tbf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzza Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Problem is he looks soooooo slow... Really worried about this, can he cut the Prem or is he another brother of the same name... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Problem is he looks soooooo slow... Really worried about this, can he cut the Prem or is he another brother of the same name... i agree with this entirely, but i only see this as a problem until the team starts to function a bit better and hopefully become a bit less shaky at the back...then it'd be no worse than having an immobile 2nd striker in a 4-4-2, thing is he'd have to weigh in with goals for it to work he should be nowhere near the pitch in games like sunday mind, not for a long while, hope mclaren gets this now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 People can't look past Luuk and are trying to put that shit on Siem man. My goodness. He is not too slow to play in that position, and Sunday is no reference for his game, as the team was absolute garbage once he came on. Can't believe the junk being talked about the guy man. So fickle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozy Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Happy to be proven wrong, but his skillset seems more suited to that of a striker than a #10. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Happy to be proven wrong, but his skillset seems more suited to that of a striker than a #10. We've actually got a few decent quality number 10s now, Ayoze, Siem, Cabella etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Problem is he looks soooooo slow... Really worried about this, can he cut the Prem or is he another brother of the same name... i agree with this entirely, but i only see this as a problem until the team starts to function a bit better and hopefully become a bit less shaky at the back...then it'd be no worse than having an immobile 2nd striker in a 4-4-2, thing is he'd have to weigh in with goals for it to work he should be nowhere near the pitch in games like sunday mind, not for a long while, hope mclaren gets this now Sorry, this is just wrong, he's not immobile at all man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 People can't look past Luuk and are trying to put that s*** on Siem man. My goodness. He is not too slow to play in that position, and Sunday is no reference for his game, as the team was absolute garbage once he came on. Can't believe the junk being talked about the guy man. So fickle. Luuk de Jong is doing pretty well at PSV at the moment. One would almost think our coaching setup didn't have a clue at the time on how to use him or give him confidence. I realise he didn't set the league on fire in Germany either, but he's certainly a better striker than he showed at NUFC, and I wouldn't be surprised if he still managed to prove himself in a better league in the future. As for his brother Siem, I've said he was a better version of Kevin Nolan straight from the start. He can certainly be a very useful player for us and I think he's plenty good and strong enough for the Premier League personally (he put two past Man City in the CL). Writing him off after only a few appearances like some on here are doing is incredibly harsh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 Siem managed to score for us already so there's that... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 People can't look past Luuk and are trying to put that s*** on Siem man. My goodness. He is not too slow to play in that position, and Sunday is no reference for his game, as the team was absolute garbage once he came on. Can't believe the junk being talked about the guy man. So fickle. Luuk de Jong is doing pretty well at PSV at the moment. One would almost think our coaching setup didn't have a clue at the time on how to use him or give him confidence. I realise he didn't set the league on fire in Germany either, but he's certainly a better striker than he showed at NUFC, and I wouldn't be surprised if he still managed to prove himself in a better league in the future. As for his brother Siem, I've said he was a better version of Kevin Nolan straight from the start. He can certainly be a very useful player for us and I think he's plenty good and strong enough for the Premier League personally (he put two past Man City in the CL). Writing him off after only a few appearances like some on here are doing is incredibly harsh. Funny thing is I have no doubt that Luuk's poor showings were down to the buffoons in charge. I would have had no issue with him staying actually. He had been injured, and I doubt the preparation for him to get back into the groove was good enough. My post above was more referring to people's disappointment in Luuk at the time, and now transferring that onto Siem. I had no issue with Luuk whatsoever. I think it's a shame he never really got a chance to get into his groove here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzza Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 not dismissing him or writing him off, just looks like he is three yards (not one) off the pace at the moment, has looked similar in the pre-season games also. Yes, he has good touch and control, holds the ball up well also, but when you see him run it looks like he's in slow motion FFS! Hope to be proved totally wrong and he becomes a first rate Nolan type for us... fingers crossed P.S. Still think Ayoze deserves to be in that 10 role before Siem just based on last seasons displays Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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