Guest palnese Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Chile have played in a similar fashion for pretty much 5 years straight. Biesla laid the blueprint and they've largely stuck to it. We've got Alan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistle17 Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 3 at the pack under Pardew Anything other than 4-4-2 under Pardew :lol: Any why the hatred towards 4-2-3-1? I don't understand. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shayno Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Could work, just play Cabella in the Pirlo role... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 3 at the pack under Pardew Anything other than 4-4-2 under Pardew :lol: Any why the hatred towards 4-2-3-1? I don't understand. It's 4411. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Formations are less important than the style the manager demands, all formations can be negative or positive tbh. We don;t have the 2 strikers really, a 4-3-3 is fine by me but pardew morphs it into 4-5-1 every time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Formations are less important than the style the manager demands, all formations can be negative or positive tbh. We don;t have the 2 strikers really, a 4-3-3 is fine by me but pardew morphs it into 4-5-1 every time. A 4-3-3 requires 3 forwards. Pardew doesn't like to play with 3 forwards. His 4-2-3-1 is a 4-4-1-1. The attacking midfielder is clearly ahead of the wide men without the ball and often with the ball unles said wide man is attacking. That's the one reason I didn't mind Gouff there as he used to make an effort to join the attack. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_69 Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 There's no way the poor man's Lesley Nielsen is going to play 3-5-2 and I don't want him to. With 4-4-2 and 4-5-1 we might just string a few performances together and finish above the mighty Stoke. Pardew starts fucking about with formations that are way beyond his limited intelligence and we are going to ship a boat-load of goals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 There's no way the poor man's Lesley Nielsen is going to play 3-5-2 and I don't want him to. With 4-4-2 and 4-5-1 we might just string a few performances together and finish above the mighty Stoke. Pardew starts fucking about with formations that are way beyond his limited intelligence and we are going to ship a boat-load of goals. That is already happenening, could get worse like as you say. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 I personally find it to be blasphemous to see Pardew compared to the great Leslie Nielsen. Even if it was professed by " poor mans " Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberts Mustache Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 The only place where what you call your formation has any significant relevance, is on manager games and to get an overview when you read the starting line-up, in my opinion. Once the whistle blows, it has very little relevance. What matters is the role each player has, how every player move, number of players closing down, runs, creating space for eachother, simultanous movement, etc. Formation could also alternate as of where on the pitch you want to centre the game, and in my opinion the best teams in the world are those that are totally dynamic formation-wise. Key for me is a tactic that makes sure every player fills a role that matches their skills and makes sure they always can play on their strenghts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Disagree a bit. Formations aren't the be all but they are very important. Of course how you play within that is more important and can differ dramatically. The 4-4-2's used by Real, Atletico and City last season at various points are all very different. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistle17 Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Disagree a bit. Formations aren't the be all but they are very important. Of course how you play within that is more important and can differ dramatically. The 4-4-2's used by Real, Atletico and City last season at various points are all very different. Yeah, it's more about the system you play and the personnel you have to fit it. We don't even have a system to begin with. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gleebals Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Disagree a bit. Formations aren't the be all but they are very important. Of course how you play within that is more important and can differ dramatically. The 4-4-2's used by Real, Atletico and City last season at various points are all very different. Yeah, it's more about the system you play and the personnel you have to fit it. We don't even have a system to begin with. So true. We have a 11 v 11 policy except it ends up more often than not being 1-9-1 with fuck all options. I'm not worries though as we are challenging for top 4 now with our brilliant defence apparently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coco Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 We played 3-5-2 for about 20 odd minutes this morning. It was painful to watch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Now's the time to experiment with stuff like that though. Maybe in time the players would get used to it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 I personally find it to be blasphemous to see Pardew compared to the great Leslie Nielsen. Even if it was professed by " poor mans " They both love swimming in raw sewage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Neil Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 If we had a decent manager, I'd be all for this. Martinez had Everton playing this way last season did he not? Not often but it was something he tried due to our full backs/wing backs being arguably the best players in our squad. I've found that this rough sort of formation actually happens during games more often than you might think. The deepest lying midfielder will often be so deep that he's essentially part of 3, meaning the 2 CBs can split and in turn the 2 full backs can push on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Exactly, it happens all the time in teams that are coherent enough together to be fluid. I wouldn't start with it, like. Does anyone, these days? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 Quite a few teams starting with this formation today. Think it'll be a flash in the pan for most sides, I reckon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 Quite a few teams starting with this formation today. Think it'll be a flash in the pan for most sides, I reckon. Man Utd and? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 Quite a few teams starting with this formation today. Think it'll be a flash in the pan for most sides, I reckon. Man Utd and? Lookslike QPR & Hull are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 Quite a few teams starting with this formation today. Think it'll be a flash in the pan for most sides, I reckon. Man Utd and? Lookslike QPR & Hull are. Good lord. Simpson as a wingback. He'll retreat more than he advances. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 It's great formation if you have the right players for it. Van Gaal got it all wrong in the first half. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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