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If high offer comes for Krul we should sell imo.

 

Keepers always seems easy to replace with (old) experienced keepers or young ones with potential (like Krul)

 

Before last season i hoped or would´t have minded selling Krul for the right price and for example had him replaced with Cesar.

 

Would have been good business and then have had a promising keeper as back up.

 

Anything that puts the blobster any closer to playing first team games is an abysmal idea. Go hang your head in shame.

 

jesus, some people just wanna misunderstand and be negative :idiot2:

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Not really, but any idea of selling Krul is moronic.

 

We'd not even get enough to make it worth our while. I hope he finishes his career with us. One of the few players who identifies with the club and is good enough for where we want to be.

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Not really, but any idea of selling Krul is moronic.

 

Just saying he isn´t the most difficult player to replace with quality and making a profit at the same time...

 

Go hang your head is shame once more.

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The fact is, we should know the club better. There is no fucking guarantee that after selling a quality GK in Krul, we will replace him with a replacable quality.

 

Knowing Pardew, you might get blob Elliot for the whole season. That would be a disaster!

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Scouting report on Lascelles:

 

He’s the new…

One could quite reasonably say Michael Dawson, given the obvious Forest connection, and Lascelles certainly matches the former Forest man ’s comfort with ball at feet. He has the ability to play accurate long balls – what I suppose I am contracted to describe as ‘cultured’.

 

However, the comparisons with Dawson stop at a point, because it is clear that Lascelles is faster than Dawson - certainly based on some of the latter's recent Tottenham showings.

 

In fact, as is so often is the case with defenders, his is a rather surprising turn of speed. On more than one occasion this season a forward has assumed that he will be first to the ball, only for a sliding challenge from Lascelles to guide the ball out of play or away from danger. In that respect he reminds me of Vincent Kompany.

 

That may be a rather generous appraisal at this stage, but one thing is for certain: he is one of Forest’s most valuable assets.

 

Strengths

It is difficult to overstate how impressively the youngster has slotted into Billy Davies’ first team this season. There were understandable concerns following the injuries to Wilson and Collins, but the 20-year-old made himself feel instantly at home at the heart of Forest’s side.

 

As should be expected from a 6’2” central defender, Lascelles aerial presence is a real asset. He shows an impressive leap and has fended off the majority of strikers. This, in a division as physical as the Championship, has been particularly impressive.

 

Lascelles is also strong in the challenge, making those tackles that make supporters stand up and applaud. For a defender of such a young age, he certainly gives as good as he gets physically.

 

Despite that, this is no lump. He has pace and would prefer to play short passes into midfield rather than look long. Having been schooled not to panic under pressure and be relaxed with ball at feet, he practices what he has been preached.

 

Finally, whilst he would prefer to play in a central area, the defender also has the temperament and stamina to operate at right-back. In that respect, comparisons with Chris Smalling may be fair.

 

Weaknesses

As so often with younger central defenders, there is a tendency to give away fouls in aerial challenges with an evident eagerness on show, often as a result of simply not being as ‘clever’ as more experienced opponents.

 

Such a tendency has inevitably led to the defender being slightly ill-disciplined. 15 appearances in all competitions have brought six bookings, meaning he is likely to pick up the odd suspension.

 

The other obvious flaw is his lack of experience. By the age of 20, a player (even in central defence) may have been expected to register more than  20 league starts. Evidently the injury of last season held Lascelles back somewhat, but it would still represent something of a risk to make a big-money move for a player with just three months of sustained football in the second tier.

 

In terms of his attributes, the only obvious flaw is a willingness to give forwards too much space to turn, possibly related to a desire to not give away additional unnecessary free kicks. At the highest level, this is a weakness that will be exemplified and punished by the best. A Championship inch becomes a Premier League mile.

 

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/scouting-arsenal-target-jamaal-lascelles-3015911#ixzz39QdgWv4Z

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altogether a rather sensible set of signings that show actual forward thinking, so the real question is what drugs is mike ashley on? This summers transfers have been all too sensible including actually getting a replacement in before selling someone so he's clearly on some kind of drugs. 

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Loan that includes no recall clause according to Ryder.

would have preferred a recall clause for them in jan if for example the cb wasn't playing he may as well be here in that case or if Krul or Elliott pick up a major injury to have some backup ready.

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Loan that includes no recall clause according to Ryder.

would have preferred a recall clause for them in jan if for example the cb wasn't playing he may as well be here in that case or if Krul or Elliott pick up a major injury to have some backup ready.

 

That would be my main concern, the CB in particular needs as much game time as he can get - but from what it sounds like, he isn't nailed on for a starting place.

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