Mattoon Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 They're gonna get mullered by Southampton! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaehyun Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Isn't that Jayshun's point though? We had initial 'success' playing gouffran wide, but once it stopped working pardew had no idea what to do. I agree with the sentiment of the post, its the same as what we all think - pardew will start well but will then systematically kill the club, breaking record after record on the way Yup that's my point. Initially we were being exposed out the flanks. We also lacked the hard runners to get the ball out of our half and to our attackers during counter-attacks. Having Gouffran and to some extent Sissoko on the wing solved these problems, they provided the hard running. It gave us some results. Pardew failed to realise that this 'solution', solved our problems, but there were much better ways to use Sissoko and Gouffran. Once Sissoko and Gouffran started hitting brick walls, he didn't know what to do. He's an auditor not a mastermind. A coach knows how to solve a problem, a tactician has the higher-level view on how to create a system. Pardew possesses the former capability and not the latter. You just watch, he'll do well at Palace this season, after that they're pretty screwed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Listening to some on here you would believe Pardew is an awful manager/coach and that's not really true. Especially in the short-term. He was here for 4 years and never lost the dressing room. He's seemingly pretty good at creating a harmonious team spirit and belief. When the winds are behind his sails his teams can pick up fantastic momentum and he'll not cock it up by trying to be too smart, chopping and changing the team. They'll not smash teams but they'll probably beat teams they shouldn't. But he has zero tactical acumen. When confidence is low, the team won't rise in performance due to his management approach or tactics. His penchant for work-men like midfielders in wide areas is painful. Once he's settled on lads he likes - they aren't coming out the team. He has no philosophy. But he's not the worst manager out there. Palace have a decent chance of staying up this season. They'll need to give him the boot after 18 months or things will go sour. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Pardew's a good cup manager apparently. I think we've won 3 FA Cup games in his tenure, if even that. I don't understand how people can just say stuff that is so blatantly wrong. I can see how he could be. If he ever bothered with the cups he could have achieved something. Unfortunately for us, he lacked the faith in his management abilities to be able to finish midtable and give the cups a good try. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallace Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 http://hereisthecity.com/en-gb/2015/01/06/alan-pardew-slammed-for-his-arrogance-branded-as-rude/? Seems to have managed to upset Dover. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 “I don’t know what Pardew was doing for 20 minutes. You can crawl up there on all fours in a couple of minutes.” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Such a contemptible person, sadly the universe is a cruel place and I bet he'll succeed there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ads Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 The ego strikes again. What a thundercunt he really is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Listening to some on here you would believe Pardew is an awful manager/coach and that's not really true. Especially in the short-term. He was here for 4 years and never lost the dressing room. He's seemingly pretty good at creating a harmonious team spirit and belief. When the winds are behind his sails his teams can pick up fantastic momentum and he'll not cock it up by trying to be too smart, chopping and changing the team. They'll not smash teams but they'll probably beat teams they shouldn't. But he has zero tactical acumen. When confidence is low, the team won't rise in performance due to his management approach or tactics. His penchant for work-men like midfielders in wide areas is painful. Once he's settled on lads he likes - they aren't coming out the team. He has no philosophy. But he's not the worst manager out there. Palace have a decent chance of staying up this season. They'll need to give him the boot after 18 months or things will go sour. How can someone not be an awful manager ( your view) and have zero tactical acumen (again your view). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Listening to some on here you would believe Pardew is an awful manager/coach and that's not really true. Especially in the short-term. He was here for 4 years and never lost the dressing room. He's seemingly pretty good at creating a harmonious team spirit and belief. When the winds are behind his sails his teams can pick up fantastic momentum and he'll not cock it up by trying to be too smart, chopping and changing the team. They'll not smash teams but they'll probably beat teams they shouldn't. But he has zero tactical acumen. When confidence is low, the team won't rise in performance due to his management approach or tactics. His penchant for work-men like midfielders in wide areas is painful. Once he's settled on lads he likes - they aren't coming out the team. He has no philosophy. But he's not the worst manager out there. Palace have a decent chance of staying up this season. They'll need to give him the boot after 18 months or things will go sour. How can someone not be an awful manager ( your view) and have zero tactical acumen (again your view). There's a lot more to management than tactical acumen. Tactics make-up a smaller part of management than some people believe. Arsene Wenger is tactically very limited. He almost never changes shape in-game. Never changes an approach. According to Cesc Fabregas - never talks about the opposition in terms of strengths or weaknesses. His teams are sent out to do do what he always wants to do. Ancelotti is one of the top 5 managers in the world for me. I don't consider him a tactical mastermind, certainly not in the top 5. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Sorry but that is bollocks. Tactical acumen is more than you claim. It involves buying players to suit your style of play for starters, something Wenger has done very successfully over the years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 TDC in trying to sound smart but just talk utter tripe shocker Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 http://hereisthecity.com/en-gb/2015/01/06/alan-pardew-slammed-for-his-arrogance-branded-as-rude/? Seems to have managed to upset Dover. I don't believe a word of that. Pardew being a rude arrogant arsehole? He always seemed such a nice man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 TDC in trying to sound smart but just talk utter tripe shocker Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Mint. It begins. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 We've spent YEARS listing reasons why Pardew is fucking terrible FFS. Time for some pedantic, wooly revisionism! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 http://hereisthecity.com/en-gb/2015/01/06/alan-pardew-slammed-for-his-arrogance-branded-as-rude/? Seems to have managed to upset Dover. I don't believe a word of that. Pardew being a rude arrogant arsehole? He always seemed such a nice man. He's going to be referred as "former Newcastle manager" for the rest of his (hopefully short) career, isn't he? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DubblyDubblyDubbly Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 surely now the cnuts gone...re-open it when he dies. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 surely now the cnuts gone...re-open it when he dies. should be left open for our entertainment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ads Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 surely now the cnuts gone...re-open it when he dies. should be left open for our entertainment. Yep. We need a place to come to bask in his failings at Palace. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Well can we at least rename it to the "Alan Pardew it's never his fault" thread? Or the "Steve Parish appreciation" thread? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 surely now the cnuts gone...re-open it when he dies. About the third person to suggest locking. Just don't open the thread if you don't want to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 I still can't really believe it. Probably because we still have his evil spirit in Carver. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 http://hereisthecity.com/en-gb/2015/01/06/alan-pardew-slammed-for-his-arrogance-branded-as-rude/? Seems to have managed to upset Dover. So happy this guy is gone man. So happy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Making new friends already. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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