leffe186 Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 MKSC, any chance you could resign from today's FF matchup too? Only joking. Good letter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 Tbf Shola, you are calling people "heed the balls" for clapping their team off the pitch after a well fought fightback against a sterling Hull City side. Aye, probably is some level of hypocrisy there Picking out individual heed the balls is good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 Going to take the 23rd thrashing of his short spell here to get them to turns. And they aren't idiots? No they're not, they just think differently to you. Doesn't make them any less idiotic. People who can't come to logical conclusions and can only think on a game by game basis are idiots as far as I'm concerned. But yea despite being one of the top 20 richest clubs in the world the best we can do is Alan pardew and a home draw against a woeful Hull. *edited for tapatalk typos Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 I hereby tender my resignation as a supporter of Newcastle United Football Club. I semi did this with the Knicks from 2001ish to about 2008? 2009? I know where you're coming from and respect the decision. Nothing sucks the life out of a team more than a shit manager and a useless owner. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rude Kid Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 This 'I'm a better fan because I held up a flyer' patter is almost as bad as the supafan mongs who were denouncing the protests. Laughing at people striving for change is okay then I presume? Laughing at nobody. The organisation around the protest was fantastic and I had me flyer, just tired of reading constant griefing of the '50,000 idiots'. Very much this. To call someone and idiot because they happen to have a different viewpoint is extremely arrogant. Like I said earlier, genuine football fans are loyal to their club by default, to ask them to stop going, shout against their team and actually want the opposition to win goes against the grain....and besides, nobody likes being told what to do. I think it's going to take another home thrashing for it to turn nasty again, but I'm sure the next one isn't far away. This club, at this period of time, is literally the only time in the entire history of English football that this has happened. Any other club, at any other point in time, and Pardew is out of a job. There are teams that have been relegated and have kept their manager so I don't see that. Also how many clubs have sacked their manager 5 games after finishing 10th in the top flight? Not that I'm supporting the hopeless bastard, just playing devil's advocate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 In less than three weeks, whoever is behind this has brought worldwide attention to Pardew's shameful record on and off the pitch, resulting in Pardew himself referencing stuff about his own habits, the club beefing up the stewarding for a match and the completely unprecedented event of Mike Ashley giving comments to SSN to clarify his opinion. Irrespective of the inactions of people in the ground for whatever reason, the club is well and truly rattled. That's a massive achievement already. It's easy to forget this as the 5th minute protest fell flat, but the impact outside of that has been huge. Also let's not forget that a huge number of flags and posters were confiscated, if they had been on show it might have looked a lot different. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rude Kid Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 Going to take the 23rd thrashing of his short spell here to get them to turns. And they aren't idiots? No they're not, they just think differently to you. Doesn't make them any less idiotic. People who can't come to logic conclusions and can only think on a game by game basis are idiots as far as I'm concerned. But yea despite being the one of the top 20 richest clubs in the world the best we can do is Alan pardew and a home draw against a woeful Hull. Uber. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 At the end of the day don't we all want the best for the club? Is Alan Pardew what's best for this club? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crumpy Gunt Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 Those who choose to jack in should really desist in calling folk who choose to attend. It's a cuntish thing to do. I fully respect anyone's decision to jack it in. It is after all your own choice. Resignation letters etc. are a fucking embarrassment. If you don't want to go then DON'T FUCKING GO. What makes folk like this think they need to justify their own actions? The only thing that will bring effective change today is exactly the same as what would have brought effective change in the mid 70's onwards. Just stop going - but sadly that isn't going to happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 This 'I'm a better fan because I held up a flyer' patter is almost as bad as the supafan mongs who were denouncing the protests. Laughing at people striving for change is okay then I presume? Laughing at nobody. The organisation around the protest was fantastic and I had me flyer, just tired of reading constant griefing of the '50,000 idiots'. Very much this. To call someone and idiot because they happen to have a different viewpoint is extremely arrogant. Like I said earlier, genuine football fans are loyal to their club by default, to ask them to stop going, shout against their team and actually want the opposition to win goes against the grain....and besides, nobody likes being told what to do. I think it's going to take another home thrashing for it to turn nasty again, but I'm sure the next one isn't far away. This club, at this period of time, is literally the only time in the entire history of English football that this has happened. Any other club, at any other point in time, and Pardew is out of a job. There are teams that have been relegated and have kept their manager so I don't see that. Also how many clubs have sacked their manager 5 games after finishing 10th in the top flight? Not that I'm supporting the hopeless bastard, just playing devil's advocate. Spurs just sacked their manager for coming 6th. The previous one was sacked in 7th. The one before him was sacked after coming 4th. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 This 'I'm a better fan because I held up a flyer' patter is almost as bad as the supafan mongs who were denouncing the protests. Laughing at people striving for change is okay then I presume? Laughing at nobody. The organisation around the protest was fantastic and I had me flyer, just tired of reading constant griefing of the '50,000 idiots'. Very much this. To call someone and idiot because they happen to have a different viewpoint is extremely arrogant. Like I said earlier, genuine football fans are loyal to their club by default, to ask them to stop going, shout against their team and actually want the opposition to win goes against the grain....and besides, nobody likes being told what to do. I think it's going to take another home thrashing for it to turn nasty again, but I'm sure the next one isn't far away. This club, at this period of time, is literally the only time in the entire history of English football that this has happened. Any other club, at any other point in time, and Pardew is out of a job. There are teams that have been relegated and have kept their manager so I don't see that. Also how many clubs have sacked their manager 5 games after finishing 10th in the top flight? Not that I'm supporting the hopeless bastard, just playing devil's advocate. Spurs just sacked their manager for coming 6th. The previous one was sacked in 7th. The one before him was sacked after coming 4th. Houllier sacked after 'only finishing 4th' too. Worked out ok for them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 At the end of the day don't we all want the best for the club? Is Alan Pardew what's best for this club? Think most people are fairly certain he's not. The split comes between those who want to force change, and the the large percentage in the ground that will always show support knowing full well that if the results despite their support are shite, the manager will inevitably go anyway. There's considerably more people flirting with the former camp purely on the basis that Pardew should already be on his bike by now. That doesn't make the other group idiots or mean they're actually happy with the situation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 At the end of the day don't we all want the best for the club? Is Alan Pardew what's best for this club? Think most people are fairly certain he's not. The split comes between those who want to force change, and the the large percentage in the ground that will always show support knowing full well that if the results despite their support are s****, the manager will inevitably go anyway. There's considerably more people flirting with the former camp purely on the basis that Pardew should already be on his bike by now. That doesn't make the other group idiots though. Yes but showing support for a manager who isn't in the club's best interest isn't supporting the club is it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 At the end of the day don't we all want the best for the club? Is Alan Pardew what's best for this club? Think most people are fairly certain he's not. The split comes between those who want to force change, and the the large percentage in the ground that will always show support knowing full well that if the results despite their support are shite, the manager will inevitably go anyway. There's considerably more people flirting with the former camp purely on the basis that Pardew should already be on his bike by now. That doesn't make the other group idiots though. That's not really true under Ashley though. He's much quicker to get rid of popular managers whilst only heart attacks seem to take out the unpopular ones who are leading us to relegation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 The only thing that will bring effective change today is exactly the same as what would have brought effective change in the mid 70's onwards. Just stop going - but sadly that isn't going to happen. Yep. Money talks louder than any chant or protest to these people. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 At the end of the day don't we all want the best for the club? Is Alan Pardew what's best for this club? Think most people are fairly certain he's not. The split comes between those who want to force change, and the the large percentage in the ground that will always show support knowing full well that if the results despite their support are s****, the manager will inevitably go anyway. There's considerably more people flirting with the former camp purely on the basis that Pardew should already be on his bike by now. That doesn't make the other group idiots though. Yes but showing support for a manager who isn't in the club's best interest isn't supporting the club is it? I wasn't suggesting they were showing support for the manager tbf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 At the end of the day don't we all want the best for the club? Is Alan Pardew what's best for this club? Think most people are fairly certain he's not. The split comes between those who want to force change, and the the large percentage in the ground that will always show support knowing full well that if the results despite their support are shite, the manager will inevitably go anyway. There's considerably more people flirting with the former camp purely on the basis that Pardew should already be on his bike by now. That doesn't make the other group idiots though. That's not really true under Ashley though. He's much quicker to get rid of popular managers whilst only heart attacks seem to take out the unpopular ones who are leading us to relegation. Agreed, that's why I said more people are loosing patience and moving to the 'force change' camp. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 At the end of the day don't we all want the best for the club? Is Alan Pardew what's best for this club? Think most people are fairly certain he's not. The split comes between those who want to force change, and the the large percentage in the ground that will always show support knowing full well that if the results despite their support are shite, the manager will inevitably go anyway. There's considerably more people flirting with the former camp purely on the basis that Pardew should already be on his bike by now. That doesn't make the other group idiots or mean they're actually happy with the situation. Then they could sit quietly instead of having a go at the people who were protesting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 The sooner people realise you can't separate Pardew Ashley and the team the better to be honest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rude Kid Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 This 'I'm a better fan because I held up a flyer' patter is almost as bad as the supafan mongs who were denouncing the protests. Laughing at people striving for change is okay then I presume? Laughing at nobody. The organisation around the protest was fantastic and I had me flyer, just tired of reading constant griefing of the '50,000 idiots'. Very much this. To call someone and idiot because they happen to have a different viewpoint is extremely arrogant. Like I said earlier, genuine football fans are loyal to their club by default, to ask them to stop going, shout against their team and actually want the opposition to win goes against the grain....and besides, nobody likes being told what to do. I think it's going to take another home thrashing for it to turn nasty again, but I'm sure the next one isn't far away. This club, at this period of time, is literally the only time in the entire history of English football that this has happened. Any other club, at any other point in time, and Pardew is out of a job. There are teams that have been relegated and have kept their manager so I don't see that. Also how many clubs have sacked their manager 5 games after finishing 10th in the top flight? Not that I'm supporting the hopeless b******, just playing devil's advocate. Spurs just sacked their manager for coming 6th. The previous one was sacked in 7th. The one before him was sacked after coming 4th. Spurs have an ambitious but trigger happy owner and Liverpool are a successful club. 10th place for Newcastle is probably above our historical average, and anyway we all know that Pardew isn't employed for footballing reasons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rude Kid Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 Those who choose to jack in should really desist in calling folk who choose to attend. It's a cuntish thing to do. I fully respect anyone's decision to jack it in. It is after all your own choice. Resignation letters etc. are a f***ing embarrassment. If you don't want to go then DON'T f***ing GO. What makes folk like this think they need to justify their own actions? The only thing that will bring effective change today is exactly the same as what would have brought effective change in the mid 70's onwards. Just stop going - but sadly that isn't going to happen. Agree 100%. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 This 'I'm a better fan because I held up a flyer' patter is almost as bad as the supafan mongs who were denouncing the protests. Laughing at people striving for change is okay then I presume? Laughing at nobody. The organisation around the protest was fantastic and I had me flyer, just tired of reading constant griefing of the '50,000 idiots'. Very much this. To call someone and idiot because they happen to have a different viewpoint is extremely arrogant. Like I said earlier, genuine football fans are loyal to their club by default, to ask them to stop going, shout against their team and actually want the opposition to win goes against the grain....and besides, nobody likes being told what to do. I think it's going to take another home thrashing for it to turn nasty again, but I'm sure the next one isn't far away. This club, at this period of time, is literally the only time in the entire history of English football that this has happened. Any other club, at any other point in time, and Pardew is out of a job. There are teams that have been relegated and have kept their manager so I don't see that. Also how many clubs have sacked their manager 5 games after finishing 10th in the top flight? Not that I'm supporting the hopeless b******, just playing devil's advocate. Spurs just sacked their manager for coming 6th. The previous one was sacked in 7th. The one before him was sacked after coming 4th. Spurs have an ambitious but trigger happy owner and Liverpool are a successful club. 10th place for Newcastle is probably above our historical average, and anyway we all know that Pardew isn't employed for footballing reasons. We've won once in 13 games, man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rude Kid Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 This 'I'm a better fan because I held up a flyer' patter is almost as bad as the supafan mongs who were denouncing the protests. Laughing at people striving for change is okay then I presume? Laughing at nobody. The organisation around the protest was fantastic and I had me flyer, just tired of reading constant griefing of the '50,000 idiots'. Very much this. To call someone and idiot because they happen to have a different viewpoint is extremely arrogant. Like I said earlier, genuine football fans are loyal to their club by default, to ask them to stop going, shout against their team and actually want the opposition to win goes against the grain....and besides, nobody likes being told what to do. I think it's going to take another home thrashing for it to turn nasty again, but I'm sure the next one isn't far away. This club, at this period of time, is literally the only time in the entire history of English football that this has happened. Any other club, at any other point in time, and Pardew is out of a job. There are teams that have been relegated and have kept their manager so I don't see that. Also how many clubs have sacked their manager 5 games after finishing 10th in the top flight? Not that I'm supporting the hopeless b******, just playing devil's advocate. Spurs just sacked their manager for coming 6th. The previous one was sacked in 7th. The one before him was sacked after coming 4th. Spurs have an ambitious but trigger happy owner and Liverpool are a successful club. 10th place for Newcastle is probably above our historical average, and anyway we all know that Pardew isn't employed for footballing reasons. We've won once in 13 games, man. Am I saying he shouldn't be sacked like? I would have bladdered him after that Reading game myself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 This 'I'm a better fan because I held up a flyer' patter is almost as bad as the supafan mongs who were denouncing the protests. Laughing at people striving for change is okay then I presume? Laughing at nobody. The organisation around the protest was fantastic and I had me flyer, just tired of reading constant griefing of the '50,000 idiots'. Very much this. To call someone and idiot because they happen to have a different viewpoint is extremely arrogant. Like I said earlier, genuine football fans are loyal to their club by default, to ask them to stop going, shout against their team and actually want the opposition to win goes against the grain....and besides, nobody likes being told what to do. I think it's going to take another home thrashing for it to turn nasty again, but I'm sure the next one isn't far away. This club, at this period of time, is literally the only time in the entire history of English football that this has happened. Any other club, at any other point in time, and Pardew is out of a job. There are teams that have been relegated and have kept their manager so I don't see that. Also how many clubs have sacked their manager 5 games after finishing 10th in the top flight? Not that I'm supporting the hopeless b******, just playing devil's advocate. Spurs just sacked their manager for coming 6th. The previous one was sacked in 7th. The one before him was sacked after coming 4th. Spurs have an ambitious but trigger happy owner and Liverpool are a successful club. 10th place for Newcastle is probably above our historical average, and anyway we all know that Pardew isn't employed for footballing reasons. I don't have a problem with 10th place finishes as such, but when you are actively wanting to avoid Europe and any cup runs then it starts to stick in the craw. Then serving up shit football on top of that is the straw breaking the camel's back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timnufc22 Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 At the end of the day don't we all want the best for the club? Is Alan Pardew what's best for this club? Think most people are fairly certain he's not. The split comes between those who want to force change, and the the large percentage in the ground that will always show support knowing full well that if the results despite their support are s****, the manager will inevitably go anyway. There's considerably more people flirting with the former camp purely on the basis that Pardew should already be on his bike by now. That doesn't make the other group idiots or mean they're actually happy with the situation. Ask most fans about Pardew and his ambitions and they would say "I'm sure he wants to get as high up the league as possible but he's probably not good enough." Where-as to me it looks like he is here to dampen any ambition, and is happy to do that. I have never seen him attacked in this point of view whether its journalists or fans being interviewed. If he gets bonus money for 10th then why would he be pushing on? Why would he want a distraction in the cups? Are there any bonus' for cups? All you hear with Cabaye is 'sold behind his back' 'wasn't replaced' as if its something he 'put up with'... to me it seems obvious the man was not bothered! I haven't seen that mentioned at all. We had all but secured top 10 by January when Cabaye went, so why would Pardew be bothered? He'd reached his objective by then and said himself "its difficult when you have 46 points"... I can forgive someone who is s*** but is trying, but Pardew is different. But the only viewpoint that comes out from the media is that he is s***, not that he himself has zero ambition, which is a disgrace to this club. Obviously Ashley plays a large part in that. Its a perfect system Ashley has set up for himself and Pardew is more than happy to go along with it, stripping the club of ambition. Why hasn't he been attacked for this? The football stats are bloody bad no doubt, but people talk about Pardew in the same context as any other manager, when he needs to be talked about it a very different context. That's the viewpoint we need the media to get out to the hooked match-going fans and if that was to happen then bit by bit those fans may eventually start thinking twice about going. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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