STM Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Wheres the links with Galtier coming from? any actual source? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Wheres the links with Galtier coming from? any actual source? Le10sport - dunno how reliable they are Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 No doubt Ryder will be on Twitter later denying it and talking up Charver. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 I'm always sketchy of French managers. Wenger aside the majority are defensive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Every single time during Ashley's reign that we've had a chance to do something that might push us on and improve us as a football club we've taken the shit option. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Every single time during Ashley's reign that we've had a chance to do something that might push us on and improve us as a football club we've taken the s*** option. That's true enough. Seems La Parisien is also running with this story. May have legs. Fits the bill - got ASSE up to 4th spending virtually nowt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segun Oluwaniyi Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 I'm always sketchy of French managers. Wenger aside the majority are defensive. Garcia is very attacking as well What is wrong with playing reactive football, anyway? When done well and not implemented by a fearful incompetent, it is probably the easiest way for a club of our financial strata to succeed in this league. The recent trends in international football have also seen successful unfancied teams playing compact counter-attacking ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Every single time during Ashley's reign that we've had a chance to do something that might push us on and improve us as a football club we've taken the s*** option. That's true enough. Seems La Parisien is also running with this story. May have legs. Fits the bill - got ASSE up to 4th spending virtually nowt. Yes but you need to remember that everyone, the fans, the press, pundits etc are looking at this from a sporting point of view. It makes sense from that vantage point. The people running the club, however, are looking at things from a different perspective. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 One thing I despise about football these days is this 'we aren’t expected to get anything' attitude. It really boils my p*ss. f***, wrong thread. Yet, with regards to managers, eerily accurate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElDiablo Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Every single time during Ashley's reign that we've had a chance to do something that might push us on and improve us as a football club we've taken the shit option. We're the Sisyphus of the footballing world. Not sure if that metaphor works, but it sounded good in my head. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 I'm always sketchy of French managers. Wenger aside the majority are defensive. Garcia is very attacking as well What is wrong with playing reactive football, anyway? When done well and not implemented by a fearful incompetent, it is probably the easiest way for a club of our financial strata to succeed in this league. The recent trends in international football have also seen successful unfancied teams playing compact counter-attacking ball. The forums been saying for years how we just want some decent attacking football. Being reactive is inherently fearful. I don't think being reactive is the natural way for a NUFC side to play. We have a big stadium and a big pitch. We are an isolated club with a lot of support. We need to be "up and at them" to get the blood flowing through the veins. Our most successful sides in living memory where exactly that. It's our identity. Look at our stadium, pitch and fans. Tight and compact counter-attacking isn't going to work. The crowd gets edgy quickly. And we aren't an unfancied team ffs. Even now, of the 19 other teams in the division. We should EXPECT to get a draw or win against at least 13 of the teams at SJP. We should get a minimum of 30-35 points at SJP every season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest antz1uk Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 On Galtier, having read a bit about him he does seem to compare a little like Pardew, however he has 2 redeeming features straight away He's not pardew He's not Carver Ok, on that note, i'll take him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 On Galtier, having read a bit about him he does seem to compare a little like Pardew, however he has 2 redeeming features straight away He's not pardew He's not Carver Ok, on that note, i'll take him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElDiablo Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Galdew. Partier. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Galtier? yes please. anyone but the sack of shit we currently have stinking up the managerial post right now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Didn't know Galtier was the assistant manager of Portsmouth in 2005. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Anyway from what I have read about Galtier yes he tends to play reactive football. But here in lies the difference, his teams are actually solid and hard to break down. Pardew would be defensive and concede 3+ a game Not only was Pardew clueless in an attacking sense but he also had no clue how to be organised defensively. At least Fat Sam and Pulis have an idea how to set up a team, Pardew can't even do that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 I cannot be arsed with shit football anymore tbh. I really don't want him from what I've heard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Didn't know Galtier was the assistant manager of Portsmouth in 2005. Assistant to Reggie Perrin. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 Only Lyon and Monaco have conceded fewer in Ligue 1. 9th in goals scored though. At this point, I'd take anyone who could introduce some solidity into the side. I'd much rather have a "boring" (because properly-executed counter-attacking football is anything but boring) team that actually looks like it deserves to play in this league over the utterly pathetic nonsense we saw against City. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 So Mole you would compare him to Pulis & Big Sam? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 We need an idea of what we're doing on the pitch, I would take that for starters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segun Oluwaniyi Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 I'm always sketchy of French managers. Wenger aside the majority are defensive. Garcia is very attacking as well What is wrong with playing reactive football, anyway? When done well and not implemented by a fearful incompetent, it is probably the easiest way for a club of our financial strata to succeed in this league. The recent trends in international football have also seen successful unfancied teams playing compact counter-attacking ball. The forums been saying for years how we just want some decent attacking football. Being reactive is inherently fearful. I don't think being reactive is the natural way for a NUFC side to play. We have a big stadium and a big pitch. We are an isolated club with a lot of support. We need to be "up and at them" to get the blood flowing through the veins. Our most successful sides in living memory where exactly that. It's our identity. Look at our stadium, pitch and fans. Tight and compact counter-attacking isn't going to work. The crowd gets edgy quickly. And we aren't an unfancied team ffs. Even now, of the 19 other teams in the division. We should EXPECT to get a draw or win against at least 13 of the teams at SJP. We should get a minimum of 30-35 points at SJP every season. The main determinant of success in football is money, and as things stand, there are several other teams willing to spend significantly more. As long as this is the case, NUFC will be a team that is unfancied to finish in the upper echelon of the league. I understand your points about the history of the club's style, but I don't believe sentiment is as important as you think. The team has finished higher than 7th one time in the ten years since SBR was sacked. I believe the important thing is success and competitiveness. I think people are criticising Galtier too harshly here. When he took over at ASSE, they were in the relegation places, and he has built the team up very well. His side's attacking play has not been very good this season, but this is mostly because they lack quality in the attacking third. They were a greater attacking force with better players at the club. Players like Gradel, Mollo, Erdinc, Ricky van Wolf, etc, are just not very good and there is not a real creative force in midfield, either. This is a club that sells big players every season and have lost the likes of Aubameyang, Payet, Matuidi, Zouma, etc in recent years. He has done well with what he is given, frankly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 We need an idea of what we're doing on the pitch, I would take that for starters. Of course. But Tony Pulis could do that. I fear we'll just settle for "better than Carver" - which is a low benchmark Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted February 23, 2015 Share Posted February 23, 2015 I think you have to temper your expectations to the current set-up at NUFC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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