Interpolic Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Well that first bit can be applied to one ticket not being sold TBH. Someone else just buys it. That's only true if the ground is full every week, which it isn't. Which is why I boycotted when I believed it was a United effort. You could say an extra person might turn up and show discontent from one week to the next... That doesn't make any sense heza, sorry. It doesn't make sense or you just choose not to understand it... It doesn't make any sense because we're talking about pumping money into the club. You boycotted a game and fair play but I assume you still paid for it, and this season you're still paying for it. I think I prefer the "can't whack the habit, need to bring my kids, etc" stuff to the idea of a one man protest making any difference tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Well that first bit can be applied to one ticket not being sold TBH. Someone else just buys it. That's only true if the ground is full every week, which it isn't. Which is why I boycotted when I believed it was a United effort. You could say an extra person might turn up and show discontent from one week to the next... That doesn't make any sense heza, sorry. It doesn't make sense or you just choose not to understand it... It doesn't make any sense because we're talking about pumping money into the club. You boycotted a game and fair play but I assume you still paid for it, and this season you're still paying for it. I think I prefer the "can't whack the habit, need to bring my kids, etc" stuff to the idea of a one man protest making any difference tbh. It's not a one man protest if more join. Which is my whole point. If people like myself join those for a boycott then those who boycott shoudl join for sit-ins or other in ground protests. Even if it's for the sake of one or a few games. It's strength in numbers that matters and whether that be in the ground or out is almost irrelevant because most the cash comes from those outside the ground now anyways watching on Sky. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 and people who don't even live in the area anymore going on about how they don't go anymore on here (and abusing those who do) is kind of ridiculous because I bet you sure as hell didn't leave the area as a result of NUFC. Therefore, it's not even a choice you have to make. Spot on! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Well that first bit can be applied to one ticket not being sold TBH. Someone else just buys it. That's only true if the ground is full every week, which it isn't. Which is why I boycotted when I believed it was a United effort. You could say an extra person might turn up and show discontent from one week to the next... That doesn't make any sense heza, sorry. It doesn't make sense or you just choose not to understand it... It doesn't make any sense because we're talking about pumping money into the club. You boycotted a game and fair play but I assume you still paid for it, and this season you're still paying for it. I think I prefer the "can't whack the habit, need to bring my kids, etc" stuff to the idea of a one man protest making any difference tbh. It's not a one man protest if more join. Which is my whole point. If people like myself join those for a boycott then those who boycott shoudl join for sit-ins or other in ground protests. Even if it's for the sake of one or a few games. It's strength in numbers that matters and whether that be in the ground or out is almost irrelevant because most the cash comes from those outside the ground now anyways watching on Sky. Lots have people have packed it in though, I think their way is better than pumping £500+ in every year. And we've seen with all of the empty seats that attendances can and will drop off when more and more do so. Sorry but it just seems a mad justification to me, if you want to go to the match then fair enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 and people who don't even live in the area anymore going on about how they don't go anymore on here (and abusing those who do) is kind of ridiculous because I bet you sure as hell didn't leave the area as a result of NUFC. Therefore, it's not even a choice you have to make. Spot on! It's not spot on It's "not a choice I have to make", as if I couldn't possibly imagine what such a decision would entail?! It's really not all that complex like. I can just as easily play my own card on this one - given I get to come to Newcastle once a year at best, and there have been a handful of times where I could've gone to a game, including big games vs Man Utd, yet I haven't. And it wasn't exactly a difficult decision. Hand over money to this NUFC and Mike Ashley? No chance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Okay - well I don't mind saying I'm one of the "plebs", "sheep" or whatever you want to call us who still attend fixtures. However, I'm also one of the few that actively goes, sings, and protests. Yes, financially it is contributing to the demise of the club, but as far as I'm concerned without the likes of me there's nigh-on 52,000 day trippers with their flasks and sweets having a jolly old day out. I go to have a voice, to express my love for Newcastle, the city and the club in every era prior to this and in hope that one day we take it back, and take it back soon. Without people like me protesting in the ground where possible the media and the club think everything is alright. I'm not saying I'm alone and I'm not saying I protest 24/7 but to be labelled as harshly as some of you are, I find a little bit irritating to be honest. One thing I do agree is that it takes a United front to force this c*** out and people who don't even live in the area anymore going on about how they don't go anymore on here (and abusing those who do) is kind of ridiculous because I bet you sure as hell didn't leave the area as a result of NUFC. Therefore, it's not even a choice you have to make. I hate the c*** running this club - but for me I am defiant (or in denial) that this is my club and it will return to being my club and it will also remain mine so long as I'm in it when I believe I should be. I boycotted Spurs last year because it was (for me) a United protest. I would have liked to think those who continue to boycott would also join me in protest on occasion in the ground - but apparently that's a no go for most. Some sign of unity that... If everyone just stopped going I guarantee it would force instant change. An empty stadium would do far more good in the grand scheme of things than you shouting (on your own) "Get out of our club" at Ashley who is more often than not, not even there anyway. They got a fright when best part of 20k didn't turn up for Spurs last season but then everyone ran back for the next game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Im in the area . Ive not been for 5 years, I turned down 2 or 3 free games and a day in box last season , I dont know where im going with this. Ashleys a cunt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Okay - well I don't mind saying I'm one of the "plebs", "sheep" or whatever you want to call us who still attend fixtures. However, I'm also one of the few that actively goes, sings, and protests. Yes, financially it is contributing to the demise of the club, but as far as I'm concerned without the likes of me there's nigh-on 52,000 day trippers with their flasks and sweets having a jolly old day out. I go to have a voice, to express my love for Newcastle, the city and the club in every era prior to this and in hope that one day we take it back, and take it back soon. Without people like me protesting in the ground where possible the media and the club think everything is alright. I'm not saying I'm alone and I'm not saying I protest 24/7 but to be labelled as harshly as some of you are, I find a little bit irritating to be honest. One thing I do agree is that it takes a United front to force this c*** out and people who don't even live in the area anymore going on about how they don't go anymore on here (and abusing those who do) is kind of ridiculous because I bet you sure as hell didn't leave the area as a result of NUFC. Therefore, it's not even a choice you have to make. I hate the c*** running this club - but for me I am defiant (or in denial) that this is my club and it will return to being my club and it will also remain mine so long as I'm in it when I believe I should be. I boycotted Spurs last year because it was (for me) a United protest. I would have liked to think those who continue to boycott would also join me in protest on occasion in the ground - but apparently that's a no go for most. Some sign of unity that... If everyone just stopped going I guarantee it would force instant change. An empty stadium would do far more good in the grand scheme of things than you shouting (on your own) "Get out of our club" at Ashley who is more often than not, not even there anyway. They got a fright when best part of 20k didn't turn up for Spurs last season but then everyone ran back for the next game. I agree but for AO to work they need as many people on board as possible and that includes those in the ground. Therefore, you have to do things both in and out to create enough support for back to back boycotts to gain significant traction. Odd ones here or there don't matter, you need Spurs style boycotts in consecutive fixtures. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ElCid Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Well that first bit can be applied to one ticket not being sold TBH. Someone else just buys it. That's only true if the ground is full every week, which it isn't. Which is why I boycotted when I believed it was a United effort. You could say an extra person might turn up and show discontent from one week to the next... That doesn't make any sense heza, sorry. It doesn't make sense or you just choose not to understand it... It doesn't make any sense because we're talking about pumping money into the club. You boycotted a game and fair play but I assume you still paid for it, and this season you're still paying for it. I think I prefer the "can't whack the habit, need to bring my kids, etc" stuff to the idea of a one man protest making any difference tbh. It's not a one man protest if more join. Which is my whole point. If people like myself join those for a boycott then those who boycott shoudl join for sit-ins or other in ground protests. Even if it's for the sake of one or a few games. It's strength in numbers that matters and whether that be in the ground or out is almost irrelevant because most the cash comes from those outside the ground now anyways watching on Sky. No your going to the games and your putting money into his pocket whilst he takes the piss and he will continue to do so as long as the likes of you keep attending. Got nothing to do with peoples circumstances and reasoning if you attend your doing nothing to change anything as he doesn't give a fuck if you boo and call him shit; as he has your money whilst laughing his tits off. The boycott of one game is fuck all and the only way anything will happen is a mass boycott over a period of time but you keep making your excuses and keep putting money into his back pocket. Anyone who attends deserves everything they get and in my opoinion are two faced when complaining about things. Your right the 'sheep' will continue to attend mathes and you deserve everything you get by doing so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilikenewcastle Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Well that first bit can be applied to one ticket not being sold TBH. Someone else just buys it. That's only true if the ground is full every week, which it isn't. Which is why I boycotted when I believed it was a United effort. You could say an extra person might turn up and show discontent from one week to the next... That doesn't make any sense heza, sorry. It doesn't make sense or you just choose not to understand it... It doesn't make any sense because we're talking about pumping money into the club. You boycotted a game and fair play but I assume you still paid for it, and this season you're still paying for it. I think I prefer the "can't whack the habit, need to bring my kids, etc" stuff to the idea of a one man protest making any difference tbh. It's not a one man protest if more join. Which is my whole point. If people like myself join those for a boycott then those who boycott shoudl join for sit-ins or other in ground protests. Even if it's for the sake of one or a few games. It's strength in numbers that matters and whether that be in the ground or out is almost irrelevant because most the cash comes from those outside the ground now anyways watching on Sky. No your going to the games and your putting money into his pocket whilst he takes the p*ss and he will continue to do so as long as the likes of you keep attending. Got nothing to do with peoples circumstances and reasoning if you attend your doing nothing to change anything as he doesn't give a f*** if you boo and call him s***; as he has your money whilst laughing his tits off. The boycott of one game is f*** all and the only way anything will happen is a mass boycott over a period of time but you keep making your excuses and keep putting money into his back pocket. Anyone who attends deserves everything they get and in my opoinion are two faced when complaining about things. Your right the 'sheep' will continue to attend mathes and you deserve everything you get by doing so. This is 100% right tbf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Well that first bit can be applied to one ticket not being sold TBH. Someone else just buys it. That's only true if the ground is full every week, which it isn't. Which is why I boycotted when I believed it was a United effort. You could say an extra person might turn up and show discontent from one week to the next... That doesn't make any sense heza, sorry. It doesn't make sense or you just choose not to understand it... It doesn't make any sense because we're talking about pumping money into the club. You boycotted a game and fair play but I assume you still paid for it, and this season you're still paying for it. I think I prefer the "can't whack the habit, need to bring my kids, etc" stuff to the idea of a one man protest making any difference tbh. It's not a one man protest if more join. Which is my whole point. If people like myself join those for a boycott then those who boycott shoudl join for sit-ins or other in ground protests. Even if it's for the sake of one or a few games. It's strength in numbers that matters and whether that be in the ground or out is almost irrelevant because most the cash comes from those outside the ground now anyways watching on Sky. No your going to the games and your putting money into his pocket whilst he takes the p*ss and he will continue to do so as long as the likes of you keep attending. Got nothing to do with peoples circumstances and reasoning if you attend your doing nothing to change anything as he doesn't give a f*** if you boo and call him s***; as he has your money whilst laughing his tits off. The boycott of one game is f*** all and the only way anything will happen is a mass boycott over a period of time but you keep making your excuses and keep putting money into his back pocket. Anyone who attends deserves everything they get and in my opoinion are two faced when complaining about things. Your right the 'sheep' will continue to attend mathes and you deserve everything you get by doing so. He doesn't give a shit if one or two people don't turn up either. He does give a shit if the masses do either though, as has been shown before. I agree that mass boycott's is the best form of protest, I just believe it also needs to be organised and orchestrated so that the masses do it and not just odds and sods who are replaced by day trippers. TBH I can see why you see some people as two faced but you cannot tar everyone with that same brush. It's actually laughable that some of you seem to consider not going as the only form of protest that you can do / achieves anything when helping organise protests and putting them into action is even more effort so to rubbish what the likes of AO do (unless it's boycotting) is just daft. My point is as it always has been that we need to be joining each other in protest both in and out the ground. Which is what AO organised very well actually. People should be putting what they think is the best form of protest to one side and just joining each other to oust these cunts. Saying "my protest is the only thing that works" is exactly why no protest has entirely worked to date. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiesteve710 Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Do we even know if he'll give a shit if people stop turning up en masse? We're all just guessing, but with the tv money pocketed I'm not sure he'd care, especially with next season's increase. I'm really starting to think that getting relegated this season is the only chance we have of getting rid, and even then it'd have to be followed up with the sort of vitriolic protests I don't think we're capable of as a fanbase. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Do we even know if he'll give a shit if people stop turning up en masse? We're all just guessing, but with the tv money pocketed I'm not sure he'd care, especially with next season's increase. I'm really starting to think that getting relegated this season is the only chance we have of getting rid, and even then it'd have to be followed up with the sort of vitriolic protests I don't think we're capable of as a fanbase. He's advertising a shop with a media department and club tab like Saddam's press office. At the first sign of life mass public sustained discontent they'll shit the fucking bed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 and people who don't even live in the area anymore going on about how they don't go anymore on here (and abusing those who do) is kind of ridiculous because I bet you sure as hell didn't leave the area as a result of NUFC. Therefore, it's not even a choice you have to make. Spot on! It's not spot on It's "not a choice I have to make", as if I couldn't possibly imagine what such a decision would entail?! It's really not all that complex like. I can just as easily play my own card on this one - given I get to come to Newcastle once a year at best, and there have been a handful of times where I could've gone to a game, including big games vs Man Utd, yet I haven't. And it wasn't exactly a difficult decision. Hand over money to this NUFC and Mike Ashley? No chance. Not spot on. Cretins who decide to come here a couple of times a season who then give up going, then tell everyone else from the area they're wrong for still going. Can't stand them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Don't worry, plenty of us from the area think those who go are wrong to do so as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Pinkman Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 People are failing to realise it's not a football club anymore it's a business. Would you keep paying £500 a year for a product that gets worse and worse? The only way the fans get their club back is if we play Ashley at his own game. He's banking we won't though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Don't worry, plenty of us from the area think those who go are wrong to do so as well. Aye, they're the ones who complain about the people who still go because the people who still go didn't listen to them when they demanded everyone stop going just coz they'd decided not to go anymore and are now pissed off because they didn't follow their commands. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Don't worry, plenty of us from the area think those who go are wrong to do so as well. He does have a point, I lived 2 miles from the ground and went to every game, I now live 9 miles away and have stopped going. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
number9shirt Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Aye, must support random thicko c***s purely because they support the same football club as you. Doesn't matter if they're facilitating the demise of said football club. I'm just pig sick of seeing arrogant t***s pat each other on the back and label vast swathes of our support 'thicko c***s', as admirable a stance as your non-attendance from 'Murica is. Have personally packed it in this season, but a large percentage of people who continue to go were there watching Keegan's and Robson's teams, and will be there long after you've given up. As for facilitating the demise of the club, get a grip man. They are literally handing over their money to the man responsible for ruining our club. How can it be anything else? ASHLEY OUT Please take my £500 50,000 plebs. My gripe with the 'facilitating' comment is that we're all facilitating it by subscribing to sky, buying into the Premier League brand etc. Don't see the point in apportioning any unique level of blame to those watching the football on a Saturday as they've always done. The blame ultimately lies with Ashley and those running the game. Your general point is a fair one but you, and many others, show yourself up with s**** like '50,000 plebs'. No the ones showing themselves up are the fools who are handing over their £500+ year after year, sit in silence like a load of dummies, whilst Ashley and his chums sit there laughing at them. They might as well all drop their trousers, bend over and let the fat man finish the job. Here f-ing here Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Don't worry, plenty of us from the area think those who go are wrong to do so as well. Aye, they're the ones who complain about the people who still go because the people who still go didn't listen to them when they demanded everyone stop going just coz they'd decided not to go anymore and are now pissed off because they didn't follow their commands. Commands Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Don't worry, plenty of us from the area think those who go are wrong to do so as well. Aye, they're the ones who complain about the people who still go because the people who still go didn't listen to them when they demanded everyone stop going just coz they'd decided not to go anymore and are now pissed off because they didn't follow their commands. Aye marra, its coz others didnt follow, not coz theyre responsible for handing over hundreds of pounds to the man who is absolutely destroying any form of identity or purpose the club ever had. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 The same could be said for any NUFC fan who has Sky. Our club takes in more from Sky money than it does from season ticket sales, by a long way. They should be ashamed! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Don't worry, plenty of us from the area think those who go are wrong to do so as well. Aye, they're the ones who complain about the people who still go because the people who still go didn't listen to them when they demanded everyone stop going just coz they'd decided not to go anymore and are now p*ssed off because they didn't follow their commands. Commands Bow down to them! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 I sacked Sky off ages ago. Pure mint and that me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 some absolute, total and utter shite being spoken in here like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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