Pilko Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 22 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: Someone like Mason Mount is way better than he’s given credit for. Some of the stuff J. Cole was rightly lauded for in his day, Mason Mount does and it’s just standard. This is absolute rubbish like. Mount's been utterly anonymous for England in every serious competitive fixture he's played. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 10 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: Is winning the world cup not a metric like? Sorry, I ignored the 66 comparison (I mean, you kinda need to look at the standard of football at the time to really compare, we're nearly 60 years ahead now). But in terms of them not being the best crop of England players in your lifetime, it really is just opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Pilko said: This is absolute rubbish like. Mount's been utterly anonymous for England in every serious competitive fixture he's played. It's cherry picking again. I rate Mount highly, but his best stuff is played at Chelsea not England, whereas Joe Cole (along with Beckham and Ashley Cole) was a regular performer for England, or at the very least didn't get the same criticism them others got. Edited March 28, 2022 by Kid Icarus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 1 minute ago, Shearergol said: Sorry, I ignored the 66 comparison (I mean, you kinda need to look at the standard of football at the time to really compare, we're nearly 60 years ahead now). But in terms of them not being the best crop of England players in your lifetime, it really is just opinion. I know it's just an opinion like, it's fine for me to think it's an insane one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 I find the whole "compare this player from 30 years ago to this player today" a really strange argument when trying to argue how good a manager someone is btw. FWIW I think Southgate's a good fit for England, but I do find some of his decisions over squad selections a little weird. But I'm not the England manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, Pilko said: This is absolute rubbish like. Mount's been utterly anonymous for England in every serious competitive fixture he's played. My point is about his general ability. I agree when he’s played for England he’s been disappointing. Legitimately Lingard has been better for England. But Mounts ability is often under rated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 Just now, Kid Icarus said: I know it's just an opinion like, it's fine for me to think it's an insane one. I guess your definition of insane is just different. It's not like he's saying that St Mirren would beat Liverpool. As I say, there's very little metric to judge either way, and personally I think it would be fairly even in a match between the two sides. Again, hardly insane. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 1 minute ago, Shearergol said: I find the whole "compare this player from 30 years ago to this player today" a really strange argument when trying to argue how good a manager someone is btw. FWIW I think Southgate's a good fit for England, but I do find some of his decisions over squad selections a little weird. But I'm not the England manager. It got onto that area of dicussion mainly because people are now trying to claim this generation of players is the best we've ever had, rather than giving the credit to Southgate. As has been said, Southgate's a victim of his own success on that front because before him these players weren't producing for England, don't play as well for for their clubs, and we're widely seen as post-golden generation no hopers. The way it's shifted from one to the other in such a short space of time has given me whiplash basically. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 4 minutes ago, Shearergol said: I guess your definition of insane is just different. It's not like he's saying that St Mirren would beat Liverpool. As I say, there's very little metric to judge either way, and personally I think it would be fairly even in a match between the two sides. Again, hardly insane. Depends who's managing who. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 I’m not a nasty person, but an injury for Maxwell Cornet here wouldn’t be half bad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 Pathetic booing Maguire Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 England fans are the absolute worst. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 Quality from Raheem Sterling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 Some right niggly fouls so far. It’s a friendly lads. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderson Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 Aurier Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 Just ask for him to be subbed ffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 26 minutes ago, Disco said: England fans are the absolute worst. Daft that a midweek friendly against mediocre opposition isn’t being played at Identikit Retail Park Arena, like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bizza Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 As if they're pissing about with VAR in a friendly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 Still not really sure what happened with Aurier but this game is dead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyCisse Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 Ref didn’t need to send him off unless I’ve missed something. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ9 Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 This England team is actually really good. We work the ball, keep possession, press as a team, create chances through patterns of attacking play, and never really look flustered. I know I’ve said this already, but so much of that is down to southgate’s management. I’m old enough to remember us losing to absolute no hopers while hoping for a bit of magic from Rooney or Beckham. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 Maguire being booed by sections of the crowd. England fans are shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 Harry Tongue breathes a sigh of relief. We couldn’t be awarded a penalty without him on the pitch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Linton Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 5 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said: Maguire being booed by sections of the crowd. England fans are shit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyCisse Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 Are these Ivory Coast players unaware this is a friendly? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now