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If Rooney didn't play for Man Utd then you know that theirs not a chance that he would be picked.

It's not 2014 anymore, he should be moved on, not only from Emgland but from Man Utd as well. I'm not going to lie, I would rather take Carroll ahead of Rooney.

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If Rashford carries on the way he has been going, staying in the Man U first team, and firing Man United into the Champions League by continuing to score goals at his current rate ... I certainly wouldn't begrudge him being called up!

 

His pace and directness would be lethal off the bench against any team. He also gets into goal scoring positions really well for his age. Fantastic movement.

 

When Dele Alli and Dier where initially called there was a bit of mumbling about it being premature, and hey presto.

 

 

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I remember calls for Shearer to be dropped for Ferdinand in the run up to Euro 96 mind. Not saying Rooney would do the same since he's at a different stage of his career, but he could come to life. I'd personally not start him.

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Yeah, Shearer was playing well at club level but had went a few friendly internationals without scoring, so the media made a lot of fuss about nothing as they often do.

 

Aye, 31 league goals that season leading into the tournament.

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Shearer was at the peak of his powers then though. Far superior to what Rooney is now.

 

Spot on.  Shearer banged goals in consistently, against all sides despite three potentially career ending injuries.

 

Rooney is a flat track bully.  Happy to get a couple against wank teams, and gets to (badly) take the penalties which inflate his stats, but he always goes missing against half decent sides.

 

Shearer was ten times the player Rooney is.

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Shearer was at the peak of his powers then though. Far superior to what Rooney is now.

 

Spot on.  Shearer banged goals in consistently, against all sides despite three potentially career ending injuries.

 

Rooney is a flat track bully.  Happy to get a couple against wank teams, and gets to (badly) take the penalties which inflate his stats, but he always goes missing against half decent sides.

 

Shearer was ten times the player Rooney is.

Shearer did take penalties as well.

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Don't see what is so funny with what Stifler said tbh.

He's right.

 

We have many better options in the role that Rooney will be playing in as a number 10. Options that are younger, fitter and not laden with the abject failure of his last tournament performances for his country.

 

He has done little if anything to warrant starting ahead of Barkley, Alli, Vardy et al.

 

He has flattered to deceive in his last couple of tournaments and as someone said is somewhat of a flat track bully. 2010 being a disgrace in all honesty.

 

Whilst not saying Carroll is the answer, another option like that would be more sensible than taking a half fit Rooney when we have a plethora of options at 10.

The option of a different approach to a game that could be got from a Carroll or Deeney type may be the wiser move.

 

If he is taken ahead of a young in form lad, and is a regular starter then we will not do as well imo.

Not sure I would even take him as things stand.

 

 

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The team that Hodgson started with last night (with the exception of Butland) should be the team that starts at the Euro's IMO.

 

Not sure about Clyne or Cahill but we don't have anyone better I can think of off the top of my head. Stones is maybe a bit too raw. Rose & Smalling should be nailed on starters though, regardless of whether or not Baines is back.

 

Dier is class, Henderson can do a job there. I'd like to take Wilshere but his injury track record is about as bad as Siem's.

 

Lallana is looking like his old-self at Southampton - if not, better - since Klopp's arrival. Alli picks himself and Welbeck is looking like Arsenal's best striker and far more mature, plus has an extremely good scoring track record for England.

 

Not even worth mentioning why Kane needs to go. I thought his form last season was nowt more than a flash in the pan and had a right good giggle when people were saying 'the next Shearer'. He f***ing really could be.

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The team that Hodgson started with last night (with the exception of Butland) should be the team that starts at the Euro's IMO.

 

Not sure about Clyne or Cahill but we don't have anyone better I can think of off the top of my head. Stones is maybe a bit too raw. Rose & Smalling should be nailed on starters though, regardless of whether or not Baines is back.

 

Dier is class, Henderson can do a job there. I'd like to take Wilshere but his injury track record is about as bad as Siem's.

 

Lallana is looking like his old-self at Southampton - if not, better - since Klopp's arrival. Alli picks himself and Welbeck is looking like Arsenal's best striker and far more mature, plus has an extremely good scoring track record for England.

 

Not even worth mentioning why Kane needs to go. I thought his form last season was nowt more than a flash in the pan and had a right good giggle when people were saying 'the next Shearer'. He f***ing really could be.

I agree with this, but i'd probably play Vardy ahead of Welbeck, mainly as his confidence is going to be high going into the Euro's and where as Welbeck is going to still be coming back from injury, and discovering form. I'd also maybe pick Barkley ahead of Henderson, but that on is debatable, and dependant on what formation we'd be playing.

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How can it possibly be up for debate. I read someone else put it in simple terms, Vardy has come on as a sub and put a backheel past the best goalkeeper in the world within 3 minutes. We looked much better once he came on also. Kane & Vardy showed the margins of top class goalscorers yesterday. Those moments win you games.

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Shearer was at the peak of his powers then though. Far superior to what Rooney is now.

 

Spot on.  Shearer banged goals in consistently, against all sides despite three potentially career ending injuries.

 

Rooney is a flat track bully.  Happy to get a couple against wank teams, and gets to (badly) take the penalties which inflate his stats, but he always goes missing against half decent sides.

 

Shearer was ten times the player Rooney is.

 

What a dreadful post. Rooney might be past his best now but he's been a class act for the best part of 14 years. If Rooney had been a penalty taker throughout his career he'd not be far behind Shearer's PL record now. And that doesn't touch on how many goals he's helped create for others.

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Ron, I think he's talking Rooney on the international stage, not domestic.

It's funny, Rooney has been shite on the international stage other then 2004, yet he's our all time record goal scorer :lol:

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