Infinitely Content Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 England need Jonjo He can cause more damage in this kind of set up than the current bunch. I'd have him beside Dier. Shelvey is pretty much better than Henderson in every area, even tackling & tracking I would say (based on the past year or so). The slowest pairing in the history of football. Probably like Sit them deep & keep the running to a minimum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 I think Henderson would be a better bet than Dier, he’d look better if his job was just to do Shelvey’s running. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 there's enough fucking running in this england squad like, it needs some players that can do things with a football maguire's heed is not a sustainable tactic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 By the time it's worked out who we should play Foden, Sancho, Mount, and Sessegnon will hopefully be ready to go anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 there's enough fucking running in this england squad like, it needs some players that can do things with a football maguire's heed is not a sustainable tactic That’s why I said pair him with Shelvey. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 Leicester's Maddison is going to be very special I think. They should get him involved as soon as possible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinitely Content Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 Leicester's Maddison is going to be very special I think. They should get him involved as soon as possible. He reminds me of Perez. Has to improve his releasing of the ball/decision making and he could be a good player, aye. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 Leicester's Maddison is going to be very special I think. They should get him involved as soon as possible. He reminds me of Perez. Has to improve his releasing of the ball/decision making and he could be a good player, aye. He's much better than Perez, but I kinda see the comparison. It's his first season at this level so he's got time to learn, unlike Ayoze. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinitely Content Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 I don't think he's much better yet like, but I feel he is developing at a quicker rate than Perez. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubestationatmidnight Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 By the time it's worked out who we should play Foden, Sancho, Mount, and Sessegnon will hopefully be ready to go anyway. Pickford Trippier Maguire Stones Gomez Sessegnon Maddison Alli Foden Sancho Kane Be some team it's just fitting them all in Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinitely Content Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 That centre midfield would get completely dismantled ^ None of them are defenders. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubestationatmidnight Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 I know hence why I said it's just fitting them all in. Can't be done unless we abandoned the three centre backs and wing backs and went back to 4-3-3 Maybe Pickford Trippier Gomez Maguire/stones Sessegnon/shaw Henderson Alli Foden Sancho Kane Sterling/rashford Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 Henderson did a decent job at the World Cup. I know he's a bit limited, but I think he's getting a raw deal. You need somebody of that ilk in there, we just don't have anyone like that who's good enough on the ball at the top top level. Harry Winks (don't laugh), when fit, is really good at wanting the ball, taking it ball under pressure and distributing it intelligently. We do need somebody like that, but it would be nice to have a bit more muscle. Alli might evolve into that player, but he's definitely not there yet, if he gets there at all. Definitely more of a Lampard. My concern with Shelvey - and I stress I haven't seen much of him in the last couple of years - is that he regularly seemed to have periods where he faded from the play, which in his position is a real issue. I also have reservations about his ability at the top level, but if we don't try it, we'll never know. We're not exactly blessed at that position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 I like Henderson, he was probably our best midfielder at the WC imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 Ben Chilwell and Demarai Gray called up to the senior team Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinoasprilla Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 When did Ali last have a decent game for England? Whether it's the system or not in the position he is playing doesn't deserve to be in the team Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 I like the look of Chilwell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 When did Ali last have a decent game for England? Whether it's the system or not in the position he is playing doesn't deserve to be in the team argument as old as time though, him and kane are great for spurs so they should be able to do it for england etc. put shelvey in that team with 2 sitting behind him and alli, kane, sterling up front it'll work... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astroblack Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 I like the look of Chilwell. I like him too. Didn't realize he was only 21. That's good news. Also if you're going to call those two up, you might as well bring in Maddison. Know he's with the u21s but for the next one at least. I'm all for trying anything. Hopefully Harry Winks can get his fitness together. I don't really see what he does but he always gets rave reviews. We've also got Barkley who should get the chance under Southgate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggs Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 Awful performance and only bright point was Rashford ,so limited with ideas and simply cannot compete with the better teams anymore ,no plan b anymore and woeful run since 1988 with 3 defeats on the belt potentially 4 after Switzerland, Shelvey when fit and in form should be in . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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sixx Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 I legit don't like 3-5-2 in general. Of course certain teams can pull it off and play some very nice football through it but usually we're talking about five natural defenders on the pitch, in this instance arguably six and in most cases no natural wingers - the players I enjoy watching the most. Don't blame anyone for liking it tho if it works for their teams of course but as a neutral I hate it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 Schär starts in a 3-5-2 I legit don't like 3-5-2 in general. Of course certain teams can pull it off and play some very nice football through it but usually we're talking about five natural defenders on the pitch, in this instance arguably six and in most cases no natural wingers - the players I enjoy watching the most. Don't blame anyone for liking it tho if it works for their teams of course but as a neutral I hate it. Alexander-Arnold is in no way a natural defender like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixx Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 Just curious, would you argue he's a wing-back rather? I wouldn't. Either way, the biggest gripe I usually have with 3-5-2 is the lack of natural wingers. Some teams like Juve can make use of the system in creating attacking football but let's face it, most teams that use the 3-5-2 system are interested in taking advantage of three centre backs and therefore being extra solid at the back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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