Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 Nketiah?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monters Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 4 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: The guy saw Anthony Gordon shine. 1 goal, 1 assist in the opening 3 games. New bother let’s pick Eddie Nketiah so he can’t play for Ghana. Rightly or wrongly player or the tournament in the U21's too - so much for progression etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 4 minutes ago, Super Duper Branko Strupar said: Nketiah?! It’s to block him out of playing for Ghana I’m sure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 I can just about cling onto the last morsel of acceptability with Maguire because of his record for England and him having at least played some football. Kalvin Phillips being in there is a complete joke though, he's played a third of the minutes Maguire has for his club in the past year Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiLvOR Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 The fuck happened to picking players based off form? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 Just now, SiLvOR said: The fuck happened to picking players based off form? I don’t agree with that to be honest. You pick on quality and ability to perform. But someone like Kalvin Phillips shouldn’t get a call-up. You should drop Maguire just to encourage him to move and get regular football. Even Henderson is a bad pick. He’s 30+ and doesn’t even start for England. Let him go - give it to someone that actually plays. Give it MGW or someone. Southgate just has the core of his squad and only changes it when new players join the old top 6. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mondonewc Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: It’s to block him out of playing for Ghana I’m sure. I assume you're right but it is still complete nonsense, mugging Watkins off hard not to pick him here who's legit very good and a reasonable understudy, another ludicrous decision. Be shocked if Nketiah is ever close to England level. Edited August 31, 2023 by mondonewc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 Tbf I don't think that should happen either. You should pick a stable squad I reckon, with only a few places up for grabs, but there are some players who clearly should be getting completely phased out with new players coming in. Henderson, Phillips, Maguire all need to go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: Tbf I don't think that should happen either. You should pick a stable squad I reckon, with only a few places up for grabs, but there are some players who clearly should be getting completely phased out with new players coming in. Henderson, Phillips, Maguire all need to go. You at least need to encourage Phillips and Maguire to get a move by dropping them now. Bring them back if it fails but at least try. Seems Pope and Sterling are being phased out. But Henderson is still around. Edited August 31, 2023 by The College Dropout Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobsonsWonderland Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 (edited) 17 minutes ago, SiLvOR said: The fuck happened to picking players based off form? I was thinking maybe it's unfair on him based on limited English players coming through... But then remembered we have just won the u21s! I mean surely we should be filling gaps with them and not Maguire, Hendon, Philips etc. Edited August 31, 2023 by RobsonsWonderland Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 Who we playing? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Boyo Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 That just states sack me for being a big nosed useless twat all over it. Couldn’t be more clear that he doesn’t pick players based on form, which is fucking shocking. The fact he has players in there with barely any minutes played along with poor form is beyond being diabolical. He’s been lucky enough over the years to have the wealth of players available to him - more than most managers in the past have, to carry the useless fucker, but to continue doing this and get away with it at the highest level is beyond a joke. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mondonewc Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 4 minutes ago, Disco said: Who we playing? Ukraine "away" in Euro's qual. and then Scotland in some 150 years anniversary shit at Hampden. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiLvOR Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 1 minute ago, The College Dropout said: I don’t agree with that to be honest. You pick on quality and ability to perform. But someone like Kalvin Phillips shouldn’t get a call-up. You should drop Maguire just to encourage him to move and get regular football. Even Henderson is a bad pick. He’s 30+ and doesn’t even start for England. Let him go - give it to someone that actually plays. Give it MGW or someone. Southgate just has the core of his squad and only changes it when new players join the old top 6. See where you're coming from, for sure, just I think the message is pretty shit if we continously pick the likes of Henderson, Maguire, Phillips over more deserving players, as you've very much said there. I think I'm just miffed at the usual faces constantly being there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 I don't really have an issue with Southgate continuing to pick the players he trusts for games like this but it seems weird to drop an in-form Sterling in that context. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 18 minutes ago, Wullie said: I don't really have an issue with Southgate continuing to pick the players he trusts for games like this but it seems weird to drop an in-form Sterling in that context. I agree with this but you need to send messages to players with your selection. like if you don’t play for your club at all - you might get dropped. Or if you perform for U21 and continue it in the PL you have a good chance of making it. There’s only 1 competitive game here, you can drop a couple just to send that message. Just sends the message that his squad is set for next year. Phillips can spend another year on the bench. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 Even dumber. Johnstone is about to get dropped for Henderson in goal. Pope will hopefully have a great CL campaign. Pope will be back in. It’s not even good long term planning. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummie Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 If Jordan Henderson had a leg amputated and was playing in the fucking Sri Lankan league, aged 42, Southgate would still pick him. What is the point, really? Kalvin Phillips who has spent less time near a pitch than your average ball boy, too. Bizarre. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummie Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 1 hour ago, Super Duper Branko Strupar said: Nketiah?! Rather than Watkins. Remarkable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 5 minutes ago, brummie said: Rather than Watkins. Remarkable. I’m certain it’s to tie up his nationality. He’s still eligible for Ghana. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 I would like to see Ward Prowse like, dunno why he doesn't get more of a chance. Especially with some of the people who do get picked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Zaius Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 Im sort of on the fence about this squad. Southgate is loyal to his squad. Thats not a particularly bad thing and he's reaped the rewards with players performing for him who arent at club level. We know that club form doesnt necessarily translate at an international level. This 'club' feeling has been a big part of us doing well under Southgate. He shouldnt be picking players as a reward, he should be picking the squad that gives us the best chance at winning. Once you're in his squad, you're in his squad. If you're not, its hard to get in - see Sterling. However, there has to be a line. Looking ahead to the EUROS, Henderson has sacrificed his career at the top level - he shouldnt be there. Maybe he's given Phillips and Maguire a last chance to get some minutes elsewhere before the window closes, but if they literally arent playing at all at club level, theres no way he can take them. He'll have to cut those players loose at some point, he's just chosen not to yet. Its not as if the replacements are inspiring either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GEFAFWISP Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 Nketiah isn't even that bad a choice in comparison to Philips, Maguire and Henderson, he's got solid attributes for scoring in international games and even with the crop of young talent England have, we don't have any brilliant strikers kicking around under 25. Then again, this could just be a reaction to Balogun wasting his time with the soccer boys. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 I'd have thought with the "England DNA" culture Ashworth set up they'd be bedding at least 2-3 of the U21 squad in, even if they don't get too many minutes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 11 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: I would like to see Ward Prowse like, dunno why he doesn't get more of a chance. Especially with some of the people who do get picked. Plays for West Ham. If he was on the bench for Man U he would be in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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