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4 minutes ago, Yorkie said:

Bellingham dropped is beautiful, like. 

 

It's another tick in the list of reasons why hiring Tuchel - intense, uncompromising, perfectionist, workaholic, straight-talking - ultimately might be a great call by the FA, but will inevitably be a spiky ride. He'll do his own thing and will probably completely ignore the press, which is ultimately the best thing to do. You just hope that he's successful.

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1 hour ago, joeyt said:

He's not the future is he

No but the players he's playing with are.

 

Tuchel has said he's a big part of maintaining the standards in training and pushing the intensity of the group. Wharton isn't likely to play much unless there's injuries as Anderson and Rice are both ahead of him so he's giving a squad place to someone who he knows will actually have an impact.

 

Henderson got shit for years while captaining Klopp's Liverpool to the title. Managers obviously love him.

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21 minutes ago, St1pe said:

Out of interest what was the reason?

He basically said he wasn't initially considered but after talking with players, coaches and other staff everyone was recommending him. 

 

After his call up he said:

 

“Jordan is a big piece in that puzzle. The way he plays now and imposes himself at Ajax is just so impressive and he builds it on character, on personality, on energy that he brings to the team.” 

 

“They carry these values on their shoulders … it’s absolutely reliable what they bring in terms of energy and this is where the focus is also for us; to build as quick as possible a strong team, a cohesive team.” 

 

“Jordan is a serial winner. He’s captain of Ajax. What he brings to every team is leadership, character, energy and personality. He makes sure everyone lives by the standards. He embodies everything we try to build.” 

 

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13 hours ago, Mazzy said:

The obsession with Wharton not getting called up is way over the top. He will not be the difference between us winning the World Cup or not, knobheads on Twitter need to get over it.


There’s always going to be someone. I had a brief argument with somebody on Reddit about TAA. Can’t remember the exact details but they said he was one of the top 2 English fullbacks and it wasn’t even close, then kept saying if he was fit it was completely insane that he wasn’t in the squad.

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18 hours ago, Mazzy said:

The obsession with Wharton not getting called up is way over the top. He will not be the difference between us winning the World Cup or not, knobheads on Twitter need to get over it.


We won’t win World Cup with Tuchel regardless, but issue for me (and whole point of why Tuchel hire was awful), is Wharton can play a significant part in the future and should be part of the squads right now and getting used to playing with Rice and Bellingham. 
 

Henderson has no future, but here we are. 

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1 minute ago, Sibierski said:


We won’t win World Cup with Tuchel regardless, but issue for me (and whole point of why Tuchel hire was awful), is Wharton can play a significant part in the future and should be part of the squads right now and getting used to playing with Rice and Bellingham. 
 

Henderson has no future, but here we are. 

 

That argument would be valid if not for one player in particular that Tuchel has brought into the team. What about Anderson? He's only a year older than Wharton so is still one for the future and has been given the opportunity to play alongside Rice and did extremely well.

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3 minutes ago, Mazzy said:

 

That argument would be valid if not for one player in particular that Tuchel has brought into the team. What about Anderson? He's only a year older than Wharton so is still one for the future and has been given the opportunity to play alongside Rice and did extremely well.


Yeah somebody posted something similar over on Reddit. Anderson and Quansah are 22, Madueke and Rogers are 23, Lewis-Skelly is 17. It’s not like he’s not picking young players.

 

There are always going to be people who bang the drum for a particularly player. I did it for Waddle when Graham Taylor was manager, the guy on Reddit above was doing it for TAA, Sibierski and others are doing it for Wharton. Plenty are doing it for Bellingham, Foden etc. He can’t pick all of them.

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1 minute ago, leffe186 said:


Yeah somebody posted something similar over on Reddit. Anderson and Quansah are 22, Madueke and Rogers are 23, Lewis-Skelly is 17. It’s not like he’s not picking young players.

 

There are always going to be people who bang the drum for a particularly player. I did it for Waddle when Graham Taylor was manager, the guy on Reddit above was doing it for TAA, Sibierski and others are doing it for Wharton. Plenty are doing it for Bellingham, Foden etc. He can’t pick all of them.

 

I understand it, people want to see players like Wharton who have potential rather than Henderson who has failed on multiple occasions with England, but equally players like Foden, Grealish and Rashford who have all failed at previous tournaments have no right now expect or assume they'll be in the squad, they've had plenty of chances and haven't taken them.

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On 05/10/2025 at 00:09, leffe186 said:


Yeah somebody posted something similar over on Reddit. Anderson and Quansah are 22, Madueke and Rogers are 23, Lewis-Skelly is 17. It’s not like he’s not picking young players.

 

There are always going to be people who bang the drum for a particularly player. I did it for Waddle when Graham Taylor was manager, the guy on Reddit above was doing it for TAA, Sibierski and others are doing it for Wharton. Plenty are doing it for Bellingham, Foden etc. He can’t pick all of them.

In fairness, Taylor was picking Geoff Thomas ahead of Waddle

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The English press are complete cunts, mind, and always have been.  Anyone who watched ‘An Impossible Job’ isn’t a human being if they didn’t get to the end of it and have sympathy for Taylor due to his treatment by the press - despite the fact that he was absolutely terrible in the job and made horrific decisions and selections. 
 

The full documentary below for anyone who hasn’t seen it - or anyone who like me has watched it intermittently for three decades …

 

 

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