Incognito Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 I just remember folk saying this about Shearer when he was about 29. Great players find a way to reinvent themselves a bit and Rooney's struggling with that but he'll find his way eventually. Rooney in his prime isn't face to lace Shearer's boots even after that injury at Goodison. Prime Wayne Rooney isn't fit to lace the boots of the Shearer who played under Gullit, Bobby, Souness and Roeder? Obviously not even you are stupid enough to genuinely believe that, so I'll leave it there. Prime Wayne Rooney is 2003-2004. Since then he's been mediocre at best for England with some sporadic good games, which always come in either qualifiers, non important qualifiers or friendlies. He wouldn't be in my squad and probably wouldn't have been so since 2012. Doesn't really have anything to do with the utter shit that Snrub came out with, though. Yeah, this is true too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 Prime Rooney was fucking incredible like, arguably better than Shearer ever was. Obviously not as consistent or adaptable as Shearer, but it'd be daft to forget just how good Rooney used to be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 Prime Rooney was f***ing incredible like, arguably better than Shearer ever was. Obviously not as consistent or adaptable as Shearer, but it'd be daft to forget just how good Rooney used to be. Was short lived imo, but aye, he had the lot. Better than shearer? More talented, for certain, but nah, not overall, imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted November 6, 2015 Share Posted November 6, 2015 Just seen the squad. Fucking hell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Rooney could have been one of the greatest ever in this country. Sadly, a mix of Fergie removing his excitement and Rooney himself simply not fulfilling what he should have been saw to that. In around 2004, he was the most exciting footballer I've ever seen in person. He was a street footballer with limitless potential, he was a boy who loved the game who was completely unpredictable. Sure, he's been very good for the best part of a decade. But he should have been a lot more, and his general form the past year or 2 has been frankly sad to watch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 You have to wonder if Rooney's natural physique counted against him in many ways, even if he had been a consummate professional athlete he was always going to be stocky and heavy and that does not lend itself to longevity for the type of player he was. Many factors involved for but it's certainly one of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Remember when we thought Chopra was going to be our Rooney?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Remember when we thought Chopra was going to be our Rooney?! That Carling Cup game which was bigged up as Chopra v Rooney. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Remember when we thought Chopra was going to be our Rooney?! I remember the Everton cup game where Chopra was thrown to the wolves to try and rescue the game for us and then never coming back from it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Currently playing for Alloa is Chopra with 2 goals in 11 games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 You have to wonder if Rooney's natural physique counted against him in many ways, even if he had been a consummate professional athlete he was always going to be stocky and heavy and that does not lend itself to longevity for the type of player he was. Many factors involved for but it's certainly one of them. Was also an advantage at a younger age. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Rooney could have been the best player we have ever produced as a nation, but lack of ultimate professionalism, his temperament on the pitch, i.e. chase down everything, and Fergie installing in him a team work ethic over individualism put paid to that. The Rooney of Everton and Euro 2004 was frightening and amazing, as exciting as any player really. He has or had more natural ability and talent than Ronaldo, but the latter due to his temperament and professionalism rocketed away from Rooney in terms of achievement and development. Back to his temperament... its an English curse, this chasing everything down and grafting. Gerrard played that way. Wilshire does and so does Barkley and it is to the detriment of their game or will be later on. They don't need to chase everything and run around like mad. You never saw Pirlo, Xavi, Iniesta or Scholes play like that. It cost Gazza too... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 I don't think Rooney had more talent or ability than Ronaldo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 lack of discipline at the end of the day. Learning a position the craft of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 I don't think Rooney had more talent or ability than Ronaldo Perhaps the wrong choice of words... he had more to his game certainly. IMO anyway and I regard Ronaldo as only second to Messi and one of the greats of the game full stop. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Rooney never had a team built around him and by the time the team no longer had any world class players ahead of him it was too late and he was too old. He should not be close to the England team at the moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 I don't think Rooney had more talent or ability than Ronaldo Perhaps the wrong choice of words... he had more to his game certainly. Ronaldo is/was more skilful, technically better, fitter, better in the air, faster, works just as hard without the bluearsed fly element...I'm struggling to see what you're getting at. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 You have to wonder if Rooney's natural physique counted against him in many ways, even if he had been a consummate professional athlete he was always going to be stocky and heavy and that does not lend itself to longevity for the type of player he was. Many factors involved for but it's certainly one of them. Was also an advantage at a younger age. Very true Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 I don't think Rooney had more talent or ability than Ronaldo Perhaps the wrong choice of words... he had more to his game certainly. Ronaldo is/was more skilful, technically better, fitter, better in the air, faster, works just as hard without the bluearsed fly element...I'm struggling to see what you're getting at. Rooney is very good in the air also. For me he has/had a better football brain, better vision, better array of passing hence more to his game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Rooney being brought into midfield more ruined him, yes it helped the midfield battle for Man Utd and he created a lot of goals for it, but he should never have been told to do that, much like Ben Arfa should never have been told to track back for us. When Ronaldo came to Man Utd he was the main man and was allowed to do what he liked, which made Rooney's situation of having to come into midfield worse, for a time between Ronaldo leaving and RVP arriving you could see Rooney getting more freedom and benefitting from it. Rooney is just about done though, if Man Utd let him sit up front then they will get a few years of decent amounts of goals out of him, nothing special but a decent amount. If they insist he comes in deep to get the ball then they might as well tell him to hang up his boots now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Rooney's barely played in midfield. On the wing a lot of the time, yeah. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 Prefering Walker over Clyne is still just bonkers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 I don't particularly rate Walker, but he's been quite good this year, since recovering from injury. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 New Page Walker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto2005 Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 Walker is terrible. I hope he doesn't get in the final squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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