Shearergol Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 46 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: Grealish has performed quite a few times for England like. I couldn't name a single time Sancho has. I understand people looking at player's club form, what I can't understand is completely ignoring player's form for England. Pickford and Maguire being the main two where their England form seems to count for nothing for some reason. Maguire was horrific against Germany. One of his worst ever games. Mind, Pope wasn't great either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 I'm going to say Semi-Finals, the Nations League was to Southgate what Euro 88 was for Bobby and Foden has his Gazza breakout tournament on the international scene. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 2 hours ago, Shearergol said: Last night, where he scored his first goal since September? He was rubbish man. I thought he was getting kicked all over by the two center halfs but did well to hold the ball up, IMO his experience against those types of defenders will be invaluable for a sub to hold the ball up, I would have taken him instead of Gallagher. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 2 hours ago, Kid Icarus said: Grealish has performed quite a few times for England like. I couldn't name a single time Sancho has. I understand people looking at player's club form, what I can't understand is completely ignoring player's form for England. Pickford and Maguire being the main two where their England form seems to count for nothing for some reason. Whilst I generally agree, it's hard to make that argument for Maguire right now. Yes he has been good in past competitions, but his form has so dramatically dipped outside the National team at some point it has to be more of a consideration than past form. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 4 minutes ago, Super Duper Branko Strupar said: Whilst I generally agree, it's hard to make that argument for Maguire right now. Yes he has been good in past competitions, but his form has so dramatically dipped outside the National team at some point it has to be more of a consideration than past form. I totally agree that it's not us much the case with Maguire now like, but for a long time he was a complete Jekyl and Hyde, with people constantly only looking at his Man United form. Even now, with his England form being poor, I still don't think you can totally disregard his previous form, mainly because it was that good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 Perhaps it's my anti-Chelsea bias, but I can't for the life of me see the hard-on for Mason Mount. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 I'm with you. If he played for us, Brighton, Palace he wouldn't get a look in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 Last season he got either a goal or an assist in 2 out of every 3 games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamPS Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 2 hours ago, Optimistic Nut said: I'm going to say Semi-Finals, the Nations League was to Southgate what Euro 88 was for Bobby and Foden has his Gazza breakout tournament on the international scene. The players had lost the euros at Wembley in a penalty shootout in the final - mentally brutal for them - I’m not surprised they couldn’t get up for the Nations League. World Cup should be different Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaqen Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 I wouldn't bother trying to look at current form too much. About half the squad have either barely played this season or are in poor form. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 48 minutes ago, toon25 said: Perhaps it's my anti-Chelsea bias, but I can't for the life of me see the hard-on for Mason Mount. He did nowt in the Euros. I've seen him have some excellent games for Chelsea but he contributed nowt in the tournament games for England, especially the final. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 Aye. He has been dreadful for England whenever I’ve seen him. Save for being ‘another’ defensive player. Saw some bits about how his positioning and discipline suit Southgate’s system. Or some such nonsense. Don’t we already play with 2 holding mids and often a back 5, as well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hakka Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 Hmm... my intial thoughts would be 433 over 4213. Not sure about left back options. Burn should be there. Prefer one holding midfielder with two more attacking ones. We are too negative with two holding midfielders. Think ball retention and better passing options forward from the middle is something Southgate struggles with, but its often because we have 7 players sat back so much. Wouldn't mind a different system to see Kane and Wilson together. Think Wilson's off ball runs would make space for him and Kane. Don't know if Wilson can replace Saka and Sterling as wide attackers of a front 3 system. Grealish, Rashford and in particular Foden are great options. Probably prefer Wilson to replace Kane if he's flagging or to put Wilson's pace up top with the wide forwards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 Probably go with that as my team. Maybe Rashford for Sterling. Who has looked a bit crap this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 (edited) When was the last time we had 6 players at a World Cup? Dead happy for Wilson. And can only be good for us for players to see playing for us can get you in the England squad. Only Man City have more - we're joint with Arsenal/Chelsea/ManU. Edited November 10, 2022 by Inferior Acuña Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 Love how the BBC website won’t even let you select the formation that Southgate is likely to play - that exciting 5-2-3 one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 5 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: Love how the BBC website won’t even let you select the formation that Southgate is likely to play - that exciting 5-2-3 one 343 really Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 Will be an honor to snatch 3 points from Callum, Trips and Pope. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 30 minutes ago, hakka said: Hmm... my intial thoughts would be 433 over 4213. Not sure about left back options. Burn should be there. Prefer one holding midfielder with two more attacking ones. We are too negative with two holding midfielders. Think ball retention and better passing options forward from the middle is something Southgate struggles with, but its often because we have 7 players sat back so much. Wouldn't mind a different system to see Kane and Wilson together. Think Wilson's off ball runs would make space for him and Kane. Don't know if Wilson can replace Saka and Sterling as wide attackers of a front 3 system. Grealish, Rashford and in particular Foden are great options. Probably prefer Wilson to replace Kane if he's flagging or to put Wilson's pace up top with the wide forwards. Trent at left back? What? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hakka Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Shearergol said: Trent at left back? What? Supposed to be Shaw. Had a brainfart after being annoyed I couldn't pick Burn. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 The caveats here are that Foden and Mount's positions are definitely up for grabs from Sterling and Maddison, probably with a formation change along with it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Zaius Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 16 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: 343 really Then you cant select any wing backs in the 4. Impossible to select the formation he might well go with. Anyway: Pickford White Dier Stones Tripper Shaw Rice Bellingham Saka Kane Foden Would be my shout. No chance he's not staring Sterling though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Barnes23 Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 Once Phillips is up to full fitness. Think Maddison could be utilised well cutting in from the right, not that Southgate would dare to play such an attacking lineup. Pickford is a level below Pope, not sure why anyone on this forum would choose him even if Southgate almost certainly will. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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