Guest Howaythetoon Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 If he could find a yard of pace he'd be a threat to any team, definitely could afford to lose a bit of weight. So it's a simple solution for him if he wants any success with the team? he also needs to find the ability to shoot,score,head and control a ball. unfortunately these won't ever come as he's f***ing useless, he'd be the first out of the door for me All of this arises from his lack of pace imho.. he never goes clear on goal because he's not quick enough, he does however win his fair share of headed balls to link the rest of the team. He doesn't get enough chances on goal generally whether it's his feet or his head because again, he's too slow.. most of the defenders around him simply get there first. He's not had an easy first two seasons with us, and to come from a team where he was banging the goals in to a league where pace is everything, his confidence in front of goal must be shot at this point. There's a proper center forward in him somewhere and I believe if he shed a bit of weight and found an extra step he could be very good once again. At the very least he's a good option to have to come on and unsettle any team. The lad is a beast. You don't need pace to have finishing instinct. Robbie Fowler wasn't quick, neither was mackem striker Kevin Phillips. That's Mitrovic's biggest drawback, he's not good in the penalty box. True, but they were not slow-slow either like Mitrovic who has zero pace. Those were very sharp physically as well and mentally quick, Mitrovic is neither. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 Mitrovic can't head a ball or control a ball? Fuck me there's some absolute shite talked on here at times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 Mitro can probably head a ball, but in his entire time here he's not even got into positions in which he can. So while technically he may be able to on a beach, on a football pitch it's fair to say he cannot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 :lol: I'll be glad when this is all over Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 :lol: I'll be glad when this is all over Have we ever had such divided opinions about a single player? And by divided I mean people who agree with me being right and those who don't categorically, absolutely, facepalmingly wrong? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crumpy Gunt Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 Mitrovic can't head a ball or control a ball? Fuck me there's some absolute shite talked on here at times. And he misses sitters for fun. He really is shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 Think the reality is somewhere between what people are arguing like (as always)... If we got say 10million for him and signed a player that we knew could do the job and be the answer for 20million his sale would be worthwhile. However, if you're wanting to spend just 10million and sell him for 10million I'm not so sure you'd make much progress in the market. Like Atsu he shows glimpses of what he can do and would probably get better with more game time. He isn't great at reading the game and that lack of mental pace is his biggest killer, watching players instead of the ball when in flight affects the number of headers he wins. Not anticipating the ball going wide before he finally makes his run into the box means he isn't in the right place at the right time and his petulance means that after one mistake his head goes down and frustration sets in. The flip side of that is that he is young and has time to develop, whilst his passion is also his pain in terms of performance it is also the driving factor that will make him improve. The right thing to do for me is to keep him for a year and sign that 15/20million striker who has the experience and knowledge to help develop Mitro. Whilst it is vital for a striker to get goals it's more important for the team to. What do I want to see - Mitro get the golden boot or Newcastle win the league? (Unlikely extremities I know...But then people are comparing with Shearer in here as well.) I suspect he is an important part of the changing room for nothing other than his shear desire. Clubs need people like that. Give him another year and see what happens. Regardless of what happens this summer though. I'm very happy for Mitro that he has had this season as an experience. I think he will treasure that last game for many years to come. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 If he stays he'll be third choice striker at best (hopefully we'll be buying a new mobile striker as 1st or 2nd choice). Not in his interest to stay somewhere he won't get game time. 'Only' 38 games instead of 46 (and any cup runs). If he did end up getting a lot of game time it would mean we we're in trouble (due to injury to those ahead of him / failure to bring in another striker). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 If he stays he'll be third choice striker at best (hopefully we'll be buying a new mobile striker as 1st or 2nd choice). Not in his interest to stay somewhere he won't get game time. 'Only' 38 games instead of 46 (and any cup runs). If he did end up getting a lot of game time it would mean we we're in trouble (due to injury to those ahead of him / failure to bring in another striker). That's a fair point. Don't see the point in us selling him unless we get a decent return on his original fee though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzza Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 He has been here two years and has done nothing to justify the money spent. Let´s just admit he was a mistake, he had a golden year before signing for us and has regressed to the level he is... at best a championship striker! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 He has been here two years and has done nothing to justify the money spent. Let´s just admit he was a mistake, he had a golden year before signing for us and has regressed to the level he is... at best a championship striker! A pretty average Championship striker at that. Get back what we can for him and get him off the wage bill. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackyboy Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 He has the same weakness as Andy Carroll.........he does not anticipate what ia about to happen or may happen, he reacts when it has already happened Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleBingo Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 I thought he was an absolute pudding the first time I saw him play, and I've seen nothing from him since to convince me otherwise. As a player, he literally has no redeeming features about him whatsoever , apart from being a little bit radge. Hopefully him and Colback are the first two out of the door. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxfree Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 He's the least of our problems In his very first season in the Prem he had 9 goals. For a young guy, that isn't half bad. Unfortunately he hasn't looked the part this season for various reasons, but he might still prove to be useful (again). Look at Joshua King. Unfortunately football fans are incredibly fickle and quick to jump the gun. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odear Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 If he could find a yard of pace he'd be a threat to any team, definitely could afford to lose a bit of weight. So it's a simple solution for him if he wants any success with the team? he also needs to find the ability to shoot,score,head and control a ball. unfortunately these won't ever come as he's f***ing useless, he'd be the first out of the door for me All of this arises from his lack of pace imho.. he never goes clear on goal because he's not quick enough, he does however win his fair share of headed balls to link the rest of the team. He doesn't get enough chances on goal generally whether it's his feet or his head because again, he's too slow.. most of the defenders around him simply get there first. He's not had an easy first two seasons with us, and to come from a team where he was banging the goals in to a league where pace is everything, his confidence in front of goal must be shot at this point. There's a proper center forward in him somewhere and I believe if he shed a bit of weight and found an extra step he could be very good once again. At the very least he's a good option to have to come on and unsettle any team. The lad is a beast. You don't need pace to have finishing instinct. Robbie Fowler wasn't quick, neither was mackem striker Kevin Phillips. That's Mitrovic's biggest drawback, he's not good in the penalty box. With respect, your argument is flawed. While Fowler and Phillips were both excellent players, the standard in the PL was considerably poorer back then in terms of how teams were organised. He needs to improve a lot to warrant a place in the team, we can all agree on that. The only real debate is whether he can or not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiedean Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 He wasn't even ahead of Darryl fucking Murphy in the pecking order of a championship team....that says it all Can't run,can't shoot,can't score,can't head a ball.....all things a striker needs really The idiots on here who think he is good need to go stand in a corner and have a word with themselves To the guy who compared Josh king....really??. King has pace to burn and is a natural finisher. Cool calm clinical Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 He has the same weakness as Andy Carroll.........he does not anticipate what ia about to happen or may happen, he reacts when it has already happened He has none of the strengths though. Carroll is a monster in the air, and he strikes a decent shot as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 If he could find a yard of pace he'd be a threat to any team, definitely could afford to lose a bit of weight. So it's a simple solution for him if he wants any success with the team? he also needs to find the ability to shoot,score,head and control a ball. unfortunately these won't ever come as he's f***ing useless, he'd be the first out of the door for me All of this arises from his lack of pace imho.. he never goes clear on goal because he's not quick enough, he does however win his fair share of headed balls to link the rest of the team. He doesn't get enough chances on goal generally whether it's his feet or his head because again, he's too slow.. most of the defenders around him simply get there first. He's not had an easy first two seasons with us, and to come from a team where he was banging the goals in to a league where pace is everything, his confidence in front of goal must be shot at this point. There's a proper center forward in him somewhere and I believe if he shed a bit of weight and found an extra step he could be very good once again. At the very least he's a good option to have to come on and unsettle any team. The lad is a beast. You don't need pace to have finishing instinct. Robbie Fowler wasn't quick, neither was mackem striker Kevin Phillips. That's Mitrovic's biggest drawback, he's not good in the penalty box. With respect, your argument is flawed. While Fowler and Phillips were both excellent players, the standard in the PL was considerably poorer back then in terms of how teams were organised. He needs to improve a lot to warrant a place in the team, we can all agree on that. The only real debate is whether he can or not. Doesn't matter what era you play in, as a striker you can either finish or you can't. George Best played in the 70's, who would you fancy in a one on one, him or Mitro? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 He's the least of our problems In his very first season in the Prem he had 9 goals. For a young guy, that isn't half bad. Unfortunately he hasn't looked the part this season for various reasons, but he might still prove to be useful (again). Look at Joshua King. Unfortunately football fans are incredibly fickle and quick to jump the gun. I agree with that assessment basically, but there's a big question over whether the club can afford to carry Mitro for long enough to see what happens. FWIW I think we'll sign one striker and he'll stay as a squad player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dontooner Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 He would at least had 10 goals this season if not for the sitters he missed. Unreliable source that is the problem. If he was scoring those goals , i think most people would back him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 Was Joshua King ever "shit"? or was he not "detected" in the past due to simply being a young player who's progressing? I think Mitro's problem is that, yes while he is work-in-progress, he's still showing some shit stuff as the same time that's throwing reasonable doubts about whether he will become effective enough for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 We can't just keep him for years in the hope he becomes good Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiedean Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 if we are wanting to become a top half club we need to get shot of the shit that contributed to us being relegated in the first place that includes Mitrovic,Perez,Dummet,Colback,Lascelles,Anita,Gouffran etc......not one of them is premier league quality Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rompe Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 He wasn't even ahead of Darryl f***ing Murphy in the pecking order of a championship team....that says it all Can't run,can't shoot,can't score,can't head a ball.....all things a striker needs really The idiots on here who think he is good need to go stand in a corner and have a word with themselves To the guy who compared Josh king....really??. King has pace to burn and is a natural finisher. Cool calm clinical Did you consider Josh King as a natural finisher when he scored 5 goals in 64 games for Blackburn? Or 1 in 19 when at Hull? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 He wasn't even ahead of Darryl f***ing Murphy in the pecking order of a championship team....that says it all Can't run,can't shoot,can't score,can't head a ball.....all things a striker needs really The idiots on here who think he is good need to go stand in a corner and have a word with themselves To the guy who compared Josh king....really??. King has pace to burn and is a natural finisher. Cool calm clinical Did you consider Josh King as a natural finisher when he scored 5 goals in 64 games for Blackburn? Or 1 in 19 when at Hull? Do you want us to just keep him forever in the hope he starts scoring at some stage? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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