Bimpy474 Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 Fulham have gained 33 pts out of 39 pts (i think) and not lost since he joined, clearly he's a decent striker in the right system. And possibly the right league... I think he's better than that but I've always had a soft/blind spot for him. I've always thought there's a very good striker in there somewhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 Fulham have gained 33 pts out of 39 pts (i think) and not lost since he joined, clearly he's a decent striker in the right system. And possibly the right league... He’s a 1 goal per 2.5 matches in the PL striker - in a team that play a system not suiting him. He’s young as well. Maybe not a striker for the better of the PL teams, but Certainly PL quality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 I think on current form if Fulham want to take him on as a Premiership player, he's currently £30million. If he has a good World Cup they simply can't afford him. Let's not forget they wanted £25million for Tom Cairney, a year ago. I know prices are mental but we will not get £30m for Mitro ffs. Bought him for £13 million and his value has not exactly decreased. I concur, but we will not get £30m for Mitro. There is literally no chance, I'm sorry. Vehemently disagree given that we got £35 million for Carroll before prices even began to get as ridiculous as today. Assuming he does well at the WC his price would increase even more. The only reason we wouldn't be able to get £30m for him under those circumstances would be the incompetence of our club negotiating with other clubs, which to be fair, is very possible. Carroll was scoring goals in the Premier, and at the time looked unplayable. While I understand player values have rocketed since then, I still think Mitro will need to show some form in the Premier to generate interest at that sort of money. Tom Cairney is rated at £20m+ without a single PL appearance. Strikers are usually more expensive, a striker with a decent PL goal ratio is bound to cost more. Anything less than £25m-£30m would be pathetic. He’s still only 23. Slimani was bought for £30m with nothing but a few goals in a piss poor Portuguese league. No one paid the £25m for Cairney did they? I'm not saying we shouldn't slap a £30m price tag on Mitro, just that I can't see anyone paying it at this point. Why wouldn’t they? See Hans’ post above. He’s increased in value as he’s increased in performance/ability. Name me a young international striker in as good form as Mitro that isn’t worth £30m+. You can continue to dislike him but he continues to score goals and perform well both at club and international level. Even a half decent Championship player goes for £15m+ these days. It's got nothing to do with disliking him, I just don't think a club will pay £30m for him because of what he's doing in the championship. Hans doesn't think so either unless I'm reading that wrong. Nobody is saying that is the case, it's just that what he is doing in the championships supports what he has already done at international level and in the prem. He's doing well in the championship, what I'm questioning is how that will make anyone pay £30m for him. His record in the Premier wasn't good, not sure it was any better than Gayle's tbh. International level is decent, but again, in the Premier he's up against defenders who are used to dealing with his physicality. He might well do fine in the Premier next season, just think there's going to remain a question mark until he's done it, so I can't see any team spending £30m. Fulham might give us £15-20m if they get promoted. I think we'll get £20-25m if it's Fulham, or another PL team doing the bidding but I can't see how anyone will think £30m is worth a punt when they know he's not wanted by Rafa as well. Plus there's all the questionable shit he's done on the pitch and lack of impact at PL level. Would be some kind of mad cunt to be paying that kind of money. I suppose we should factor in his age, he's only 23 so that should help get a better fee. I just think when you start getting to over £20m, teams will be looking for proven quality, and Mitro's previous campaigns in the top division might work against him. What did Ihenacho cost Leicester? He's probably scored less senior goals than Mitro. He wasn't getting a chance at Chelsea, seemed he was netting every time he was coming on as a sub for a while, that probably pushed his value up. It's like Deeney when he was going through a purple patch last season, Watford started asking daft money, now what's he worth? Same would happen for Mitro. If he played for Fulham in the Premier and started off banging in a few goals, his value would rocket. Man City. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 Fulham have gained 33 pts out of 39 pts (i think) and not lost since he joined, clearly he's a decent striker in the right system. And possibly the right league... He’s a 1 goal per 2.5 matches in the PL striker - in a team that play a system not suiting him. He’s young as well. Maybe not a striker for the better of the PL teams, but Certainly PL quality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 I think on current form if Fulham want to take him on as a Premiership player, he's currently £30million. If he has a good World Cup they simply can't afford him. Let's not forget they wanted £25million for Tom Cairney, a year ago. I know prices are mental but we will not get £30m for Mitro ffs. Bought him for £13 million and his value has not exactly decreased. I concur, but we will not get £30m for Mitro. There is literally no chance, I'm sorry. Vehemently disagree given that we got £35 million for Carroll before prices even began to get as ridiculous as today. Assuming he does well at the WC his price would increase even more. The only reason we wouldn't be able to get £30m for him under those circumstances would be the incompetence of our club negotiating with other clubs, which to be fair, is very possible. Carroll was scoring goals in the Premier, and at the time looked unplayable. While I understand player values have rocketed since then, I still think Mitro will need to show some form in the Premier to generate interest at that sort of money. Tom Cairney is rated at £20m+ without a single PL appearance. Strikers are usually more expensive, a striker with a decent PL goal ratio is bound to cost more. Anything less than £25m-£30m would be pathetic. He’s still only 23. Slimani was bought for £30m with nothing but a few goals in a piss poor Portuguese league. No one paid the £25m for Cairney did they? I'm not saying we shouldn't slap a £30m price tag on Mitro, just that I can't see anyone paying it at this point. Why wouldn’t they? See Hans’ post above. He’s increased in value as he’s increased in performance/ability. Name me a young international striker in as good form as Mitro that isn’t worth £30m+. You can continue to dislike him but he continues to score goals and perform well both at club and international level. Even a half decent Championship player goes for £15m+ these days. It's got nothing to do with disliking him, I just don't think a club will pay £30m for him because of what he's doing in the championship. Hans doesn't think so either unless I'm reading that wrong. Nobody is saying that is the case, it's just that what he is doing in the championships supports what he has already done at international level and in the prem. He's doing well in the championship, what I'm questioning is how that will make anyone pay £30m for him. [n]His record in the Premier wasn't good[/b], not sure it was any better than Gayle's tbh. International level is decent, but again, in the Premier he's up against defenders who are used to dealing with his physicality. He might well do fine in the Premier next season, just think there's going to remain a question mark until he's done it, so I can't see any team spending £30m. Fulham might give us £15-20m if they get promoted. I think we'll get £20-25m if it's Fulham, or another PL team doing the bidding but I can't see how anyone will think £30m is worth a punt when they know he's not wanted by Rafa as well. Plus there's all the questionable shit he's done on the pitch and lack of impact at PL level. Would be some kind of mad cunt to be paying that kind of money. 1 goal every 2.5 games in the PL for Mitro. Meanwhile, Gayle is 1 goal every 3.5 games this season. Rondon, an aging forward that people seem to want on here, has 1 goal per 2.38 games in the PL. Sturridge the past two seasons has been a 1 in 2.84 striker, seemingly living forever on the one amazing season he had in 13/14 and the fact he's English. I was talking about Gayle's record in the premier, not just this season. Not that I particularly know what that is either tbh, a player's value isn't just decided by stats, Sturridge being a case in point. Not much doubt about his Premier pedigree, no matter how you present his stats, it's all the other factors which would count against him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 I think on current form if Fulham want to take him on as a Premiership player, he's currently £30million. If he has a good World Cup they simply can't afford him. Let's not forget they wanted £25million for Tom Cairney, a year ago. I know prices are mental but we will not get £30m for Mitro ffs. Bought him for £13 million and his value has not exactly decreased. I concur, but we will not get £30m for Mitro. There is literally no chance, I'm sorry. Vehemently disagree given that we got £35 million for Carroll before prices even began to get as ridiculous as today. Assuming he does well at the WC his price would increase even more. The only reason we wouldn't be able to get £30m for him under those circumstances would be the incompetence of our club negotiating with other clubs, which to be fair, is very possible. Carroll was scoring goals in the Premier, and at the time looked unplayable. While I understand player values have rocketed since then, I still think Mitro will need to show some form in the Premier to generate interest at that sort of money. Tom Cairney is rated at £20m+ without a single PL appearance. Strikers are usually more expensive, a striker with a decent PL goal ratio is bound to cost more. Anything less than £25m-£30m would be pathetic. He’s still only 23. Slimani was bought for £30m with nothing but a few goals in a piss poor Portuguese league. No one paid the £25m for Cairney did they? I'm not saying we shouldn't slap a £30m price tag on Mitro, just that I can't see anyone paying it at this point. Why wouldn’t they? See Hans’ post above. He’s increased in value as he’s increased in performance/ability. Name me a young international striker in as good form as Mitro that isn’t worth £30m+. You can continue to dislike him but he continues to score goals and perform well both at club and international level. Even a half decent Championship player goes for £15m+ these days. It's got nothing to do with disliking him, I just don't think a club will pay £30m for him because of what he's doing in the championship. Hans doesn't think so either unless I'm reading that wrong. Nobody is saying that is the case, it's just that what he is doing in the championships supports what he has already done at international level and in the prem. He's doing well in the championship, what I'm questioning is how that will make anyone pay £30m for him. [n]His record in the Premier wasn't good[/b], not sure it was any better than Gayle's tbh. International level is decent, but again, in the Premier he's up against defenders who are used to dealing with his physicality. He might well do fine in the Premier next season, just think there's going to remain a question mark until he's done it, so I can't see any team spending £30m. Fulham might give us £15-20m if they get promoted. I think we'll get £20-25m if it's Fulham, or another PL team doing the bidding but I can't see how anyone will think £30m is worth a punt when they know he's not wanted by Rafa as well. Plus there's all the questionable shit he's done on the pitch and lack of impact at PL level. Would be some kind of mad cunt to be paying that kind of money. 1 goal every 2.5 games in the PL for Mitro. Meanwhile, Gayle is 1 goal every 3.5 games this season. Rondon, an aging forward that people seem to want on here, has 1 goal per 2.38 games in the PL. Sturridge the past two seasons has been a 1 in 2.84 striker, seemingly living forever on the one amazing season he had in 13/14 and the fact he's English. I was talking about Gayle's record in the premier, not just this season. Not that I particularly know what that is either tbh, a player's value isn't just decided by stats, Sturridge being a case in point. Not much doubt about his Premier pedigree, no matter how you present his stats, it's all the other factors which would count against him. 1 in 2.48 all-time in PL for Gayle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 I think on current form if Fulham want to take him on as a Premiership player, he's currently £30million. If he has a good World Cup they simply can't afford him. Let's not forget they wanted £25million for Tom Cairney, a year ago. I know prices are mental but we will not get £30m for Mitro ffs. Bought him for £13 million and his value has not exactly decreased. I concur, but we will not get £30m for Mitro. There is literally no chance, I'm sorry. Vehemently disagree given that we got £35 million for Carroll before prices even began to get as ridiculous as today. Assuming he does well at the WC his price would increase even more. The only reason we wouldn't be able to get £30m for him under those circumstances would be the incompetence of our club negotiating with other clubs, which to be fair, is very possible. Carroll was scoring goals in the Premier, and at the time looked unplayable. While I understand player values have rocketed since then, I still think Mitro will need to show some form in the Premier to generate interest at that sort of money. Tom Cairney is rated at £20m+ without a single PL appearance. Strikers are usually more expensive, a striker with a decent PL goal ratio is bound to cost more. Anything less than £25m-£30m would be pathetic. He’s still only 23. Slimani was bought for £30m with nothing but a few goals in a piss poor Portuguese league. No one paid the £25m for Cairney did they? I'm not saying we shouldn't slap a £30m price tag on Mitro, just that I can't see anyone paying it at this point. Why wouldn’t they? See Hans’ post above. He’s increased in value as he’s increased in performance/ability. Name me a young international striker in as good form as Mitro that isn’t worth £30m+. You can continue to dislike him but he continues to score goals and perform well both at club and international level. Even a half decent Championship player goes for £15m+ these days. It's got nothing to do with disliking him, I just don't think a club will pay £30m for him because of what he's doing in the championship. Hans doesn't think so either unless I'm reading that wrong. Nobody is saying that is the case, it's just that what he is doing in the championships supports what he has already done at international level and in the prem. He's doing well in the championship, what I'm questioning is how that will make anyone pay £30m for him. [n]His record in the Premier wasn't good[/b], not sure it was any better than Gayle's tbh. International level is decent, but again, in the Premier he's up against defenders who are used to dealing with his physicality. He might well do fine in the Premier next season, just think there's going to remain a question mark until he's done it, so I can't see any team spending £30m. Fulham might give us £15-20m if they get promoted. I think we'll get £20-25m if it's Fulham, or another PL team doing the bidding but I can't see how anyone will think £30m is worth a punt when they know he's not wanted by Rafa as well. Plus there's all the questionable shit he's done on the pitch and lack of impact at PL level. Would be some kind of mad cunt to be paying that kind of money. 1 goal every 2.5 games in the PL for Mitro. Meanwhile, Gayle is 1 goal every 3.5 games this season. Rondon, an aging forward that people seem to want on here, has 1 goal per 2.38 games in the PL. Sturridge the past two seasons has been a 1 in 2.84 striker, seemingly living forever on the one amazing season he had in 13/14 and the fact he's English. I was talking about Gayle's record in the premier, not just this season. Not that I particularly know what that is either tbh, a player's value isn't just decided by stats, Sturridge being a case in point. Not much doubt about his Premier pedigree, no matter how you present his stats, it's all the other factors which would count against him. 1 in 2.48 all-time in PL for Gayle. So about the same as Mitro overall then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 According to wiki he's got 14 goals in 65 appearances for us. Are we going on minutes played? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinport53 Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 Il take a guess and say yes. Otherwise it'd be a 1 in 4.64 record. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 It's being based on PL appearances isn't it? He's not played 60 odd times for us in the PL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 Minutes played per goal isn't really a great way of judging a player. Iheanacho had an insane minutes per goal at City at one point iirc. Mitro has started for us in the Premier League 22 times and got 5 goals iirc, 1 of those a penalty. He was much better off the bench for us in 2015/16 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. TC Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 What has happened to Ihenacho anyway? I haven't been keeping up. He looked a very good signing for Leicester, but has disappeared off the radar. Injured, crap or just kept out of the side by Vardy? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 Minutes played per goal isn't really a great way of judging a player. Iheanacho had an insane minutes per goal at City at one point iirc. Mitro has started for us in the Premier League 22 times and got 5 goals iirc, 1 of those a penalty. He was much better off the bench for us in 2015/16 Didn't finish all of those 22 starts on the pitch either, minutes played is the only proper way of doing things. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 Minutes played per goal isn't really a great way of judging a player. Iheanacho had an insane minutes per goal at City at one point iirc. Mitro has started for us in the Premier League 22 times and got 5 goals iirc, 1 of those a penalty. He was much better off the bench for us in 2015/16 Didn't finish all of those 22 starts on the pitch either, minutes played is the only proper way of doing things. Gayle had a very good goals per minutes ratio. A fair chunk of his goals were from the bench because he wasn't good enough to start regularly at this level. It's a tough one to be able to truly gauge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 I think on current form if Fulham want to take him on as a Premiership player, he's currently £30million. If he has a good World Cup they simply can't afford him. Let's not forget they wanted £25million for Tom Cairney, a year ago. I know prices are mental but we will not get £30m for Mitro ffs. Bought him for £13 million and his value has not exactly decreased. I concur, but we will not get £30m for Mitro. There is literally no chance, I'm sorry. Vehemently disagree given that we got £35 million for Carroll before prices even began to get as ridiculous as today. Assuming he does well at the WC his price would increase even more. The only reason we wouldn't be able to get £30m for him under those circumstances would be the incompetence of our club negotiating with other clubs, which to be fair, is very possible. Carroll was scoring goals in the Premier, and at the time looked unplayable. While I understand player values have rocketed since then, I still think Mitro will need to show some form in the Premier to generate interest at that sort of money. Tom Cairney is rated at £20m+ without a single PL appearance. Strikers are usually more expensive, a striker with a decent PL goal ratio is bound to cost more. Anything less than £25m-£30m would be pathetic. He’s still only 23. Slimani was bought for £30m with nothing but a few goals in a piss poor Portuguese league. No one paid the £25m for Cairney did they? I'm not saying we shouldn't slap a £30m price tag on Mitro, just that I can't see anyone paying it at this point. Why wouldn’t they? See Hans’ post above. He’s increased in value as he’s increased in performance/ability. Name me a young international striker in as good form as Mitro that isn’t worth £30m+. You can continue to dislike him but he continues to score goals and perform well both at club and international level. Even a half decent Championship player goes for £15m+ these days. It's got nothing to do with disliking him, I just don't think a club will pay £30m for him because of what he's doing in the championship. Hans doesn't think so either unless I'm reading that wrong. Nobody is saying that is the case, it's just that what he is doing in the championships supports what he has already done at international level and in the prem. He's doing well in the championship, what I'm questioning is how that will make anyone pay £30m for him. [n]His record in the Premier wasn't good[/b], not sure it was any better than Gayle's tbh. International level is decent, but again, in the Premier he's up against defenders who are used to dealing with his physicality. He might well do fine in the Premier next season, just think there's going to remain a question mark until he's done it, so I can't see any team spending £30m. Fulham might give us £15-20m if they get promoted. I think we'll get £20-25m if it's Fulham, or another PL team doing the bidding but I can't see how anyone will think £30m is worth a punt when they know he's not wanted by Rafa as well. Plus there's all the questionable shit he's done on the pitch and lack of impact at PL level. Would be some kind of mad cunt to be paying that kind of money. 1 goal every 2.5 games in the PL for Mitro. Meanwhile, Gayle is 1 goal every 3.5 games this season. Rondon, an aging forward that people seem to want on here, has 1 goal per 2.38 games in the PL. Sturridge the past two seasons has been a 1 in 2.84 striker, seemingly living forever on the one amazing season he had in 13/14 and the fact he's English. I was talking about Gayle's record in the premier, not just this season. Not that I particularly know what that is either tbh, a player's value isn't just decided by stats, Sturridge being a case in point. Not much doubt about his Premier pedigree, no matter how you present his stats, it's all the other factors which would count against him. 1 in 2.48 all-time in PL for Gayle. So about the same as Mitro overall then. That's where age and potential for improvement differentiates them quite a bit. More goals (per appearance based on minutes played) in the Championship than Gayle at the moment as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 30m, minimum. in this market If he was English (I don't know why it makes a difference but it does) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 Would love to get Mitro sold for a daft amount to some Euro club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shakey jake Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 I actually think there’s a good chance rafa will keep him and give him the number 9 next year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 I actually think there’s a good chance rafa will keep him and give him the number 9 next year. I think there's a good chance you're mental. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
afar Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 LOL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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shakey jake Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 HAhAhAHa rofl Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 if fulham go up and want mitro, they'll go all out to have him signed before the world cup possibly paying more than they want to. they know a couple of decent goals in russia and his price goes up even further. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 Probably out our best scenario, an early sale. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxfree Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 All that money in the bank for our (youngest and) best striker Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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