Hughesy Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 He's clearly the kind of player who needs a run of games as well. I agree with this, but then he keeps shooting himself in the foot. Thereby rendering said run of games impossible Very true. There's definitely a decent striker in there somewhere - for all his bluster, he's a confidence player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crumpy Gunt Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 He's clearly the kind of player who needs a run of games as well. He's absolute dogshit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 I like the lad's character and the fact he wants to play for Newcastle. I admire his enthusiasm even if it is a bit misplaced sometimes, st least he gives a shit. None of that, however, disguises the fact he's varied from unreliable to inconsistent to bang average. I know he's young, I know he's learning but there's only so long you can tolerate him missing big chances in games. He's a centre forward and he's poor in front of goal. I wanted it to work but it just hasn't. We need better and he needs a move. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 My major issue with him is his finishing. How can he be classed as a striker when he needs so many chances to score? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Don't quite see the value in writing a 22 year old off after 1 season and a half in a new country. Clearly shouldn't be starting and I'm not sure how you get him to develop if he isn't playing (maybe a loan next season, but that just perpetuates the issue if/when he returns), but I wouldn't give up on him yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujpest doza Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 People on here have been dying for this to tell everybody that they told them so. that's what gets me like. Proudly boasting about 'calling it' back when he was 20 and just arrived in the country Barring a miracle he's finished here like, he's lost his place to Murphy and with no more cups he'll be lucky to make more than half a dozen appearances before the season is up. I love you Hans, but this is one thing we think the complete opposite on like. I thought he was shit last season and I find the almost cult status that he has baffling, but I'd much rather be wrong about him and thought he'd piss this league along with Perez. You usually find that people who have "cult" Status have so because they are crap. He's a big lump with no eye for goal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Don't quite see the value in writing a 22 year old off after 1 season and a half in a new country. Clearly shouldn't be starting and I'm not sure how you get him to develop if he isn't playing (maybe a loan next season, but that just perpetuates the issue if/when he returns), but I wouldn't give up on him yet. Fast Forward 10 years Don't quite see the value in writing a 32 year old off after 10 seasons in a new country. Clearly shouldn't be starting and I'm not sure how you get him to develop if he isn't playing (maybe a loan next season, but that just perpetuates the issue if/when he returns), but I wouldn't give up on him yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 People on here have been dying for this to tell everybody that they told them so. that's what gets me like. Proudly boasting about 'calling it' back when he was 20 and just arrived in the country Barring a miracle he's finished here like, he's lost his place to Murphy and with no more cups he'll be lucky to make more than half a dozen appearances before the season is up. I love you Hans, but this is one thing we think the complete opposite on like. I thought he was shit last season and I find the almost cult status that he has baffling, but I'd much rather be wrong about him and thought he'd piss this league along with Perez. You usually find that people who have "cult" Status have so because they are crap. He's a big lump with no eye for goal. It's generally players who are limited or aren't as good as the alternative but perform well/beyond those limitations imo. The obvious examples being Ketsbaia, Acuna, and Sibierski. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 May major issue with him is his finishing. How can he be classed as a striker when he needs so many chances to score? Can't really get past this personally. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 People on here have been dying for this to tell everybody that they told them so. that's what gets me like. Proudly boasting about 'calling it' back when he was 20 and just arrived in the country Barring a miracle he's finished here like, he's lost his place to Murphy and with no more cups he'll be lucky to make more than half a dozen appearances before the season is up. I love you Hans, but this is one thing we think the complete opposite on like. I thought he was shit last season and I find the almost cult status that he has baffling, but I'd much rather be wrong about him and thought he'd piss this league along with Perez. You usually find that people who have "cult" Status have so because they are crap. He's a big lump with no eye for goal. It's generally players who are limited or aren't as good as the alternative but perform well/beyond those limitations imo. The obvious examples being Ketsbaia, Acuna, and Sibierski. Acuna was never a cult player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Acuna was a fine footballer, to be fair. Our CM options were very strong during his time here or he'd have played far more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Missing the ultimate cult figure, Sir Foluwashola Ameobi. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Yeah I liked Acuna. Might have been limited but he was bought to do a specific job and he did that really well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Don't quite see the value in writing a 22 year old off after 1 season and a half in a new country. Clearly shouldn't be starting and I'm not sure how you get him to develop if he isn't playing (maybe a loan next season, but that just perpetuates the issue if/when he returns), but I wouldn't give up on him yet. Fast Forward 10 years Don't quite see the value in writing a 32 year old off after 10 seasons in a new country. Clearly shouldn't be starting and I'm not sure how you get him to develop if he isn't playing (maybe a loan next season, but that just perpetuates the issue if/when he returns), but I wouldn't give up on him yet. Not sure how that is relevant - asking to give a 22 year old time is a perfectly valid concept. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaus Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Some think of Barton like a cult hero Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujpest doza Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Missing the ultimate cult figure, Sir Foluwashola Ameobi. Who was also an absolute crock of shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 The comparison with Sels is fuckig valid unless you're a bed wetting Mito fan boy. And also the excuse of him being a 20-something striker is a load of shite - always was and always will be. It's now his second season with us and the only significant improvement noticed have been that he hasn't been sent off yet - the stupid, big cunt. But anyway, good luck to him, whether it's here or somewhere else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Missing the ultimate cult figure, Sir Foluwashola Ameobi. Who was also an absolute crock of shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Missing the ultimate cult figure, Sir Foluwashola Ameobi. Who was also an absolute crock of shit. Now he was SHIT! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 The thing about his age and comparing him to what other strikers were like at his age is valid but we can't just keep him here for years in the hope he suddenly turns into a top striker Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Radio suggested he stepped on the ball when in a great position today, not sure if that's an improvement on missing the ball altogether but it's not good. He definitely needs a run of games to get the best from him but he's not going to get that game time with us. Best for both if he starts afresh elsewhere. I do have sympathy for him but he's behind Murphy right now and going backwards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty__mag Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Wow mitro getting a hiding from probably not a sole that watched the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Wow mitro getting a hiding from probably not a sole that watched the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Wow mitro getting a hiding from probably not a sole that watched the game. You watched it then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaus Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Can anybody who was at the game give us some feedback then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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