Aleksandar Mitrović

[healthyaddiction]

Mitro - 2 goals in 120 minutes (League & Cup)

Joselu - 2 goals in 720 minutes

Gayle - 0 goals in 301 minutes

 

And counting...

 

Edit - just looked and he has 3 red cards in his entire career ffs A ‘walking red card’ according to some. Not seen red since May 2016.

4 in his time with us (I'm counting the suspension this season obviously). Which is a red card every 15 matches or so.

 

3 if you're counting the suspension. Two reds in the first season, and 0 in the second season.

You're right. The site I used to look up the suspensions listed one of his suspensions twice. Still, he's had a lot more than 3 in his career and is still averaging a red card every 20 matches or so. That'd work out nearly 2 a season, which is clearly bad.

[Guest]

Rubbish that.

 

He's no worse than the other two, had a good pre-season and scored a couple before the suspension and is the one who has scope to improve.

[Guest]

Mitro - 2 goals in 120 minutes (League & Cup)

Joselu - 2 goals in 720 minutes

Gayle - 0 goals in 301 minutes

 

And counting...

 

Edit - just looked and he has 3 red cards in his entire career ffs A ‘walking red card’ according to some. Not seen red since May 2016.

4 in his time with us (I'm counting the suspension this season obviously). Which is a red card every 15 matches or so.

 

3 if you're counting the suspension. Two reds in the first season, and 0 in the second season.

You're right. The site I used to look up the suspensions listed one of his suspensions twice. Still, he's had a lot more than 3 in his career and is still averaging a red card every 20 matches or so. That'd work out nearly 2 a season, which is clearly bad.

 

Sure I heard in commentary that Lejeune has 8 career reds.

 

[Guest neesy111]

Rubbish that.

 

He's no worse than the other two, had a good pre-season and scored a couple before the suspension and is the one who has scope to improve.

 

He's no better either.  All of them are not good enough imo, though I do think the midfield is getting off lightly in terms of the chances they aren't providing for our forward players as well.

[Shays Given Tim Flowers]

Mitro - 2 goals in 120 minutes (League & Cup)

Joselu - 2 goals in 720 minutes

Gayle - 0 goals in 301 minutes

 

And counting...

 

Edit - just looked and he has 3 red cards in his entire career ffs A ‘walking red card’ according to some. Not seen red since May 2016.

4 in his time with us (I'm counting the suspension this season obviously). Which is a red card every 15 matches or so.

 

3 if you're counting the suspension. Two reds in the first season, and 0 in the second season.

You're right. The site I used to look up the suspensions listed one of his suspensions twice. Still, he's had a lot more than 3 in his career and is still averaging a red card every 20 matches or so. That'd work out nearly 2 a season, which is clearly bad.

 

Sure I heard in commentary that Lejeune has 8 career reds.

 

It was 9 in 200 games I think.

[TRon]

Rubbish that.

 

He's no worse than the other two, had a good pre-season and scored a couple before the suspension and is the one who has scope to improve.

 

He's no better either.  All of them are not good enough imo, though I do think the midfield is getting off lightly in terms of the chances they aren't providing for our forward players as well.

 

He's got a better scoring record than Joselu I'm pretty sure, plus he has a load more self belief IMO. Like I said in the other thread, I don't even expect him to start every game, but he should be used when the other strikers are patently failing.

[Guest neesy111]

Rubbish that.

 

He's no worse than the other two, had a good pre-season and scored a couple before the suspension and is the one who has scope to improve.

 

He's no better either.  All of them are not good enough imo, though I do think the midfield is getting off lightly in terms of the chances they aren't providing for our forward players as well.

 

He's got a better scoring record than Joselu I'm pretty sure, plus he has a load more self belief IMO. Like I said in the other thread, I don't even expect him to start every game, but he should be used when the other strikers are patently failing.

 

He should be ahead of Perez in terms of being brought on, I'd have Perez in the reserves tbh absolutely sick of his non-performances.

 

But I think anyone he starts for us upfront will be a massive struggle for them because of the way we are set-up and the lack of a decent number 10.

[Figures 1-0 Football]

That's a load of s**** like, Mitrovic's best quality is his link up play and how he brings others into the game. It's debatable that he'd be better if he was more of a 'plays for himself' striker, like Gayle Mitrovic isn't ruthless enough, he cannot play on the toes of the defenders like Gayle can, that's his problem.

 

Joselu might run around like a headless chicken more than him like, I bet the team love him for it.

 

EDIT: I mean 'he plays for himself' is a bit of a misnomer anyway. The vast majority of players will want personal glory, it's not just the obvious unashamed ones like Ronaldo and Neymar. If Joselu doesn't want to be the star man then, as the main striker, that's actually a canny big problem

 

You want your number 9 to be unforgiving and greedy (within reason obviously), to be picking the ball up and walking to the penalty spot. You want him to be shouting at his midfielders for not spotting his runs etc.

 

11 starts last season. 4 goals, 6 assists. Selfish cunt.

 

In a much inferior league.  Scored 1 goal in 7 months, but he's a fantastic striker because he's a mad bastard.

 

Wasn’t he also injured and barely playing for those 7 months?

 

Not like Neesy to talk shit mind.

 

Neither of our other strikers look like scoring, he’s got a much better record than them this season despite barely getting on the field. No idea how anyone can even try and dispute that he should be on the pitch.

[Guest]

That's a load of s**** like, Mitrovic's best quality is his link up play and how he brings others into the game. It's debatable that he'd be better if he was more of a 'plays for himself' striker, like Gayle Mitrovic isn't ruthless enough, he cannot play on the toes of the defenders like Gayle can, that's his problem.

 

Joselu might run around like a headless chicken more than him like, I bet the team love him for it.

 

EDIT: I mean 'he plays for himself' is a bit of a misnomer anyway. The vast majority of players will want personal glory, it's not just the obvious unashamed ones like Ronaldo and Neymar. If Joselu doesn't want to be the star man then, as the main striker, that's actually a canny big problem

 

You want your number 9 to be unforgiving and greedy (within reason obviously), to be picking the ball up and walking to the penalty spot. You want him to be shouting at his midfielders for not spotting his runs etc.

 

11 starts last season. 4 goals, 6 assists. Selfish c***.

 

In a much inferior league.  Scored 1 goal in 7 months, but he's a fantastic striker because he's a mad b******.

 

And in the much superior league he has 5 in 11 Premier League apps since Rafa took charge. 5 of those 11 apps he was on the pitch less than 20 minutes as a substitute.

[Figures 1-0 Football]

Mitro - 2 goals in 120 minutes (League & Cup)

Joselu - 2 goals in 720 minutes

Gayle - 0 goals in 301 minutes

 

And counting...

 

Edit - just looked and he has 3 red cards in his entire career ffs A ‘walking red card’ according to some. Not seen red since May 2016.

4 in his time with us (I'm counting the suspension this season obviously). Which is a red card every 15 matches or so.

 

3 if you're counting the suspension. Two reds in the first season, and 0 in the second season.

You're right. The site I used to look up the suspensions listed one of his suspensions twice. Still, he's had a lot more than 3 in his career and is still averaging a red card every 20 matches or so. That'd work out nearly 2 a season, which is clearly bad.

 

Sure I heard in commentary that Lejeune has 8 career reds.

 

It was 9 in 200 games I think.

 

That’s one ‘every 20 matches or so’. Sell him to the slaughter house!

 

Also not sure what HA is talking about, but he’s had 3 career reds. No more than that.

[Andy]

Blatantly obvious.   If it was blatantly obvious he'd be in the team, the manager isn't stupid.

 

Also, Rafa only had 1 tactical sub yesterday as we got 2 injuries, I do agree he should had brought on someone different than Perez though.

 

How is that statement funny? It is blatantly obvious that he should be getting a chance. He's third choice striker and the other two aren't scoring goals. Rafa is an intelligent manager but that doesn't make him immune to making wrong decisions.

[Hanshithispantz]

That's a load of s**** like, Mitrovic's best quality is his link up play and how he brings others into the game. It's debatable that he'd be better if he was more of a 'plays for himself' striker, like Gayle Mitrovic isn't ruthless enough, he cannot play on the toes of the defenders like Gayle can, that's his problem.

 

Joselu might run around like a headless chicken more than him like, I bet the team love him for it.

 

EDIT: I mean 'he plays for himself' is a bit of a misnomer anyway. The vast majority of players will want personal glory, it's not just the obvious unashamed ones like Ronaldo and Neymar. If Joselu doesn't want to be the star man then, as the main striker, that's actually a canny big problem

 

You want your number 9 to be unforgiving and greedy (within reason obviously), to be picking the ball up and walking to the penalty spot. You want him to be shouting at his midfielders for not spotting his runs etc.

 

11 starts last season. 4 goals, 6 assists. Selfish cunt.

 

In a much inferior league.  Scored 1 goal in 7 months, but he's a fantastic striker because he's a mad bastard.

 

Wasn’t he also injured and barely playing for those 7 months?

 

Not like Neesy to talk shit mind.

 

Neither of our other strikers look like scoring, he’s got a much better record than them this season despite barely getting on the field. No idea how anyone can even try and dispute that he should be on the pitch.

A few games ago aye, but if Gayle is fit then why should Mitrovic be starting ahead of him?

[TRon]

Rubbish that.

 

He's no worse than the other two, had a good pre-season and scored a couple before the suspension and is the one who has scope to improve.

 

He's no better either.  All of them are not good enough imo, though I do think the midfield is getting off lightly in terms of the chances they aren't providing for our forward players as well.

 

He's got a better scoring record than Joselu I'm pretty sure, plus he has a load more self belief IMO. Like I said in the other thread, I don't even expect him to start every game, but he should be used when the other strikers are patently failing.

 

He should be ahead of Perez in terms of being brought on, I'd have Perez in the reserves tbh absolutely sick of his non-performances.

 

But I think anyone he starts for us upfront will be a massive struggle for them because of the way we are set-up and the lack of a decent number 10.

 

Personally I think the two main strikers should be Gayle and Mitro because they are far more likely to look for goal than either Joselu or Perez.

[Figures 1-0 Football]

That's a load of s**** like, Mitrovic's best quality is his link up play and how he brings others into the game. It's debatable that he'd be better if he was more of a 'plays for himself' striker, like Gayle Mitrovic isn't ruthless enough, he cannot play on the toes of the defenders like Gayle can, that's his problem.

 

Joselu might run around like a headless chicken more than him like, I bet the team love him for it.

 

EDIT: I mean 'he plays for himself' is a bit of a misnomer anyway. The vast majority of players will want personal glory, it's not just the obvious unashamed ones like Ronaldo and Neymar. If Joselu doesn't want to be the star man then, as the main striker, that's actually a canny big problem

 

You want your number 9 to be unforgiving and greedy (within reason obviously), to be picking the ball up and walking to the penalty spot. You want him to be shouting at his midfielders for not spotting his runs etc.

 

11 starts last season. 4 goals, 6 assists. Selfish cunt.

 

In a much inferior league.  Scored 1 goal in 7 months, but he's a fantastic striker because he's a mad bastard.

 

Wasn’t he also injured and barely playing for those 7 months?

 

Not like Neesy to talk shit mind.

 

Neither of our other strikers look like scoring, he’s got a much better record than them this season despite barely getting on the field. No idea how anyone can even try and dispute that he should be on the pitch.

A few games ago aye, but if Gayle is fit then why should Mitrovic be starting ahead of him?

 

Probably because Gayle hasn’t scored a goal all season.

 

It’s also very questionable if he is fit and will remain fit. Fwiw I’d have Gayle and Mitro playing together, so neither would start ahead of each other so to speak.

[Guest neesy111]

Rubbish that.

 

He's no worse than the other two, had a good pre-season and scored a couple before the suspension and is the one who has scope to improve.

 

He's no better either.  All of them are not good enough imo, though I do think the midfield is getting off lightly in terms of the chances they aren't providing for our forward players as well.

 

He's got a better scoring record than Joselu I'm pretty sure, plus he has a load more self belief IMO. Like I said in the other thread, I don't even expect him to start every game, but he should be used when the other strikers are patently failing.

 

He should be ahead of Perez in terms of being brought on, I'd have Perez in the reserves tbh absolutely sick of his non-performances.

 

But I think anyone he starts for us upfront will be a massive struggle for them because of the way we are set-up and the lack of a decent number 10.

 

Personally I think the two main strikers should be Gayle and Mitro because they are far more likely to look for goal than either Joselu or Perez.

 

That would mean Rafa abandoning his formation, I don't get this Gayle playing in the No 10 role as I think he's much more suited to leading the line.

[TRon]

Rubbish that.

 

He's no worse than the other two, had a good pre-season and scored a couple before the suspension and is the one who has scope to improve.

 

He's no better either.  All of them are not good enough imo, though I do think the midfield is getting off lightly in terms of the chances they aren't providing for our forward players as well.

 

He's got a better scoring record than Joselu I'm pretty sure, plus he has a load more self belief IMO. Like I said in the other thread, I don't even expect him to start every game, but he should be used when the other strikers are patently failing.

 

He should be ahead of Perez in terms of being brought on, I'd have Perez in the reserves tbh absolutely sick of his non-performances.

 

But I think anyone he starts for us upfront will be a massive struggle for them because of the way we are set-up and the lack of a decent number 10.

 

Personally I think the two main strikers should be Gayle and Mitro because they are far more likely to look for goal than either Joselu or Perez.

 

That would mean Rafa abandoning his formation, I don't get this Gayle playing in the No 10 role as I think he's much more suited to leading the line.

 

I meant those two should be front of the line for the role of lone striker. Who plays the no 10 position is another discussion, probably Perez is the only option currently.

[Parky]

Joselu looks bereft of confidence and nowhere near PL quality so think the evil one might be worth some pitch time...If not anything else puts some fear into defences.

[Dinho lad]

Blatantly obvious.   If it was blatantly obvious he'd be in the team, the manager isn't stupid.

 

Also, Rafa only had 1 tactical sub yesterday as we got 2 injuries, I do agree he should had brought on someone different than Perez though.

 

How is that statement funny? It is blatantly obvious that he should be getting a chance. He's third choice striker and the other two aren't scoring goals. Rafa is an intelligent manager but that doesn't make him immune to making wrong decisions.

 

He also sees things that you don't see, whether on match days or on non-match days.

[Crumpy Gunt]

When the Strawberry corner sang his name it stonewall guaranteed he'd get no pitch time.

 

Rafa would rather weaken the team by bringing shit on than be told his business.

[thomas]

I'm not so much on Team Mitro as I am Team Anyone But Joselu right now.

[DoTheAmeobi86]

Wouldnt harm trying Joselu and Mitro up front. Mitro would benefit from having someone alongside him in a 4-4-2 as opposed to him being the lone striker. Joselu reminds me of a Leon Best type player some one to take the hits against CB's for the opposition if we used him for that Mitro would less likely get radge over getting roughed up and is possibly a better bet to score atm. He seems to do alright when he is playing for his National side and he has two other forwards with him in a 4-3-3. But cannot see Rafa changing his formation. Obvs he cannot trust Mitro even last year in the Champo he shouldve got a bit more game time to build his confidence up. Probably better he leaves in January but until then give him a shot!

[Andy]

Blatantly obvious.   If it was blatantly obvious he'd be in the team, the manager isn't stupid.

 

Also, Rafa only had 1 tactical sub yesterday as we got 2 injuries, I do agree he should had brought on someone different than Perez though.

 

How is that statement funny? It is blatantly obvious that he should be getting a chance. He's third choice striker and the other two aren't scoring goals. Rafa is an intelligent manager but that doesn't make him immune to making wrong decisions.

 

He also sees things that you don't see, whether on match days or on non-match days.

 

Aye. He's definitely seeing things I don't see if he thinks Joselu is the answer.

 

All that's genuinely relevant in football is what happens on a match day. He might be Neymar-esque in training but when he consistently hits the ball with less power than my nan on a Saturday it counts for nothing.

[Dinho lad]

When the Strawberry corner sang his name it stonewall guaranteed he'd get no pitch time.

 

Rafa would rather weaken the team by bringing shit on than be told his business.

 

He said he brought on Perez in order to make some runs.

 

Had he said that he brought on Mitro to launch long balls at him, he would have also been criticised for it.

 

 

 

 

[Dinho lad]

Blatantly obvious.   If it was blatantly obvious he'd be in the team, the manager isn't stupid.

 

Also, Rafa only had 1 tactical sub yesterday as we got 2 injuries, I do agree he should had brought on someone different than Perez though.

 

How is that statement funny? It is blatantly obvious that he should be getting a chance. He's third choice striker and the other two aren't scoring goals. Rafa is an intelligent manager but that doesn't make him immune to making wrong decisions.

 

He also sees things that you don't see, whether on match days or on non-match days.

 

Aye. He's definitely seeing things I don't see if he thinks Joselu is the answer.

 

All that's genuinely relevant in football is what happens on a match day. He might be Neymar-esque in training but when he consistently hits the ball with less power than my nan on a Saturday it counts for nothing.

 

So basically you're seeing faults in a player. The same thing can be said about Mitrovic.

 

I'm guessing Rafa thinks that Joselu is more reliable in maintaining discipline and team cohesion - which is Rafa's first priority.

[Andy]

Blatantly obvious.   If it was blatantly obvious he'd be in the team, the manager isn't stupid.

 

Also, Rafa only had 1 tactical sub yesterday as we got 2 injuries, I do agree he should had brought on someone different than Perez though.

 

How is that statement funny? It is blatantly obvious that he should be getting a chance. He's third choice striker and the other two aren't scoring goals. Rafa is an intelligent manager but that doesn't make him immune to making wrong decisions.

 

He also sees things that you don't see, whether on match days or on non-match days.

 

Aye. He's definitely seeing things I don't see if he thinks Joselu is the answer.

 

All that's genuinely relevant in football is what happens on a match day. He might be Neymar-esque in training but when he consistently hits the ball with less power than my nan on a Saturday it counts for nothing.

 

So basically you're seeing faults in a player. The same thing can be said about Mitrovic.

 

I'm guessing Rafa thinks that Joselu is more reliable in maintaining discipline and team cohesion - which is Rafa's first priority.

 

Aye, but my original post was saying Mitrovic is overdue a chance, which isn't an unfair statement considering his goal record is better in the premier league than the two strikers in front of him and we've failed to score in the last couple of games. It's hard to make an argument for Joselu offering better "team cohesion" anyway when we haven't really had any cohesion in an attacking sense lately.