mrmojorisin75 Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 Siem > Janmaat > Wijnaldum sick of this like, is it because he seems like a nice guy? Think it had more to do with him being Ajax captain, and a strong character. based on.... Ajax winning the Eredivisie 4 times in a row... And then not winning it the season after he left. Didn't he barely play the season before leaving Ajax due to his first collapsed lung? EDIT: 19 times, 7 goals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 Siem > Janmaat > Wijnaldum sick of this like, is it because he seems like a nice guy? Think it had more to do with him being Ajax captain, and a strong character. based on.... Ajax winning the Eredivisie 4 times in a row... And then not winning it the season after he left. Didn't he barely play the season before leaving Ajax due to his first collapsed lung? EDIT: 19 times, 7 goals. It's been said a ton that he's extremely vocal on the pitch and in dressing room (at his time in Ajax). He'd constantly be talking to De Boer about his thoughts and ideas and opinions on a certain match. He also is a big game player, was a man who showed up to be counted in the CL when he tortured City. I'd be happy with either him, Janmaat or Wijnaldum. It doesn't necessarly need to be a guy who's done well in the shirt for us so far - it needs to be a real leader of these guys, one who isn't going to hide when the going gets tough, who will demand 100% every match and hold every player accountable -- even the manager and staff. I see De Jong as that guy for us, I see Janmaat, and I can imagine Wijnaldum is the same. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 Surprised no one else is mentioning Tiote to be fair. He's been forgotten about though, he did just disappear last season after the ACON Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozy Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 Giving it to De Jong would be equivalent to me starting a new job, then immediately taking a year off sick before returning to find out I've been offered a promotion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoU Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 If we do not get a replacement for Colo, I think it has to be him. He is half the player he once was and he wants away. But he is a decent captain and I think he (and some of the squad) would be disrupted by him being demoted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiesteve710 Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 Problem with Tiote is a) he's suspended more often than not, b) it's hard to see any of our more talented players looking up to a player who can't pass further than 5 yards and c) due to point b is far from an automatic starter. Krul or Janmaat would seem like the sensible choice to me, could see Colo continuing if he doesn't get sold for the sake of continuity or some BS like that, or ginger Jack- leerkal lad innit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sho Time Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 If we do not get a replacement for Colo, I think it has to be him. He is half the player he once was and he wants away. But he is a decent captain and I think he (and some of the squad) would be disrupted by him being demoted. ?? Colo's 'leadership' has been questionable to say the least and although he's "experienced" when do you ever see him really talking to the players on the pitch and revving them up? Someone like Janmaat or even Colback who is visibly commited and puts their heart into the cause will inspire the players and set higher standards than someone like Coloccini who shies away when the going gets tough. Also as you say he is half the player he is and wants away, so why would you even start him - let alone make him captain!? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 I went for Wijnaldum but would be fine with De Jong too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 Giving it to De Jong would be equivalent to me starting a new job, then immediately taking a year off sick before returning to find out I've been offered a promotion. No, not at all like what you've just said. De Jong was a Captain of a Champions League / Dutch title winning side. Came in with immense pedigree, proved to be a vice captain. Was hurt, by all accounts stuck around Newcastle and was involved as much as he could physically be. And has been back amongst the lot. If we do not get a replacement for Colo, I think it has to be him. He is half the player he once was and he wants away. But he is a decent captain and I think he (and some of the squad) would be disrupted by him being demoted. I think that disruption is all gone. Colo is on borrowed time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowlingcrofty Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 For what it's worth, i'd give it to De Jong with Janmaat as vice captain. Colo simply shouldn't be an automatic starter anymore, and therefore shouldn't be captain. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 I think that disruption is all gone. Colo is on borrowed time. Yeah, and then the captaincy will go to Colback. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoU Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 If we do not get a replacement for Colo, I think it has to be him. He is half the player he once was and he wants away. But he is a decent captain and I think he (and some of the squad) would be disrupted by him being demoted. ?? Colo's 'leadership' has been questionable to say the least and although he's "experienced" when do you ever see him really talking to the players on the pitch and revving them up? Someone like Janmaat or even Colback who is visibly commited and puts their heart into the cause will inspire the players and set higher standards than someone like Coloccini who shies away when the going gets tough. Also as you say he is half the player he is and wants away, so why would you even start him - let alone make him captain!? Because if we are not starting Colo we are starting Taylor and Williamson. I would much rather see him replaced than as captain. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sho Time Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 I would rather see him replaced by 2 new CB's and demoted to third choice, absolutely. At the moment we're left with no real option but to play him, but to keep him on as captain would benefit nobody but the player himself. Jonas isn't about to lick his arse so I can't see many first team players arsed if it goes to someone like Janmaat, Colback or even De Jong (proving he can stay fit) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 Gotta be Janmaat! At least he looks like he cares when he plays. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 Gotta be Janmaat! At least he looks like he cares when he plays. He genuinely looked embarrassed to be associated with everything going on at times last season, especially what was taking place on the pitch. And as a professional footballer so he fucking should have been. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 De jong sounds ideal character but janmaat has earned it too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 I would go for De Jong just. Janmaat's a good character but seems a bit more volatile. Either are good options TBH, a billion times better than Colo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieT Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 Will De Jong be playing every game though? Obviously we have no idea who McClaren favours, but there is a lot of competition in that spot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinport53 Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 For what it's worth, i'd give it to De Jong with Janmaat as vice captain. Colo simply shouldn't be an automatic starter anymore, and therefore shouldn't be captain. You having a laugh? What's leading a team to 4 consecutive titles got to do with being able to lead a different team? Mental you. #mojo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 Don't like any of these options really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 Don't like any of these options really. John Terry's not for sale. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 De Jong can't seem to maintain command his own vital organs let alone lead a Premier League side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 Don't like any of these options really. You don't like Janmaat or De Jong?? Gotta be Janmaat! At least he looks like he cares when he plays. He genuinely looked embarrassed to be associated with everything going on at times last season, especially what was taking place on the pitch. And as a professional footballer so he f***ing should have been. Janmaat made the cowards walk over to the away fans to face the abuse/clap them for the hiding earlier last season. He gets it. He's a fucking footballer man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 Siem captain with Colback vice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 obvious wum is obvious Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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