Seymour Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Might just be me but I'd fight in every court and stand in front of every panel that would listen to me if I was accused of racial abuse. Cant see why any innocent person would accept that. Would be interesting to see general opinion on this if it was Colback accused. Because he's been told by a team of lawyers that there's no point and his appeal won't be successful It's just dragging it out for no reason, hes stated he hasn't done anything wrong so obviously believes he can do no more Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Safe to assume we have someone lined up to immediately come in on the 1st January to replace him, considering Diame won't be here either? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyn davies Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 will he be moved on?, as he appears to be a liability, on the face of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aiston Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Hopefully sign someone asap in the January window to replace him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 will he be moved on?, as he appears to be a liability, on the face of it. He's our best player, so no. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 will he be moved on?, as he appears to be a liability, on the face of it. He's our best player, so no. He's not (I wouldn't want him in the back 4 , out wide or up front and there are question marks over wether he'll be our fulcrum if we get promoted) but he is important to us...on the other hand this could be the making of Hayden. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 What does him not being able to play in the back 4, out wide or up front have to do with him not being our best player? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 will he be moved on?, as he appears to be a liability, on the face of it. He's our best player, so no. He's not (I wouldn't want him in the back 4 , out wide or up front and there are question marks over wether he'll be our fulcrum if we get promoted) but he is important to us...on the other hand this could be the making of Hayden. wat Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 will he be moved on?, as he appears to be a liability, on the face of it. He's our best player, so no. He's not (I wouldn't want him in the back 4 , out wide or up front and there are question marks over wether he'll be our fulcrum if we get promoted) but he is important to us...on the other hand this could be the making of Hayden. I wouldn't play Dwight Gayle in goal but that doesn't mean he's not a very good centre forward. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 will he be moved on?, as he appears to be a liability, on the face of it. He's our best player, so no. He's not (I wouldn't want him in the back 4 , out wide or up front and there are question marks over wether he'll be our fulcrum if we get promoted) but he is important to us...on the other hand this could be the making of Hayden. I wouldn't play Dwight Gayle in goal but that doesn't mean he's not a very good centre forward. Doesn't mean he's a better player than Darlow either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Are you saying that someone can't be our best player unless he plays more than one position? Who is our best player out of interest? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Are you saying that someone can't be our best player unless he plays more than one position? No, I'm saying there's a difference between being our most important player and best player. Best player is a bit of a pointless term. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Who's our most important player? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Are you saying that someone can't be our best player unless he plays more than one position? No, I'm saying there's a difference between being our most important player and best player. Best player is a bit of a pointless term. Do you have a clue what you're on about? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Shearer couldn't play in a back four so wasn't our best player Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Love it when someone says something, get asked what they mean and then confuse themselves trying to convince people it was a credible point Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leazes_End_Mag Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 I can only hope that the lack of a appeal means the club are working even harder to get 1 or 2 midfielders in for almost as soon as the transfer window opens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 I see his point albeit it is somewhat pedantic. Shelvey is our most talented, experienced and effective centre midfielder. Which would ultimately make him the best in that particular position. However, is that to say he is more effective or better than Lascelles is at CB or Gayle is up front? It's a pointless debate really as it's all subjective. Shelvey is our most effective player in my opinion and actually I've never been and still am not his biggest fan. This will be a test of the other players' steal and actually the likes of Hayden need to step up and fill the spot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 His original post suggests that because he wouldn't want Shelvey in defence or out wide that he can't be out best player. Not that Lascelles is better at centre back than Shelvey is in midfield (which I don't think is true for what it's worth) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Who's our most important player? Jonjo Shelvey, also our best player. Nee idea what Madras is on about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Here's an example, if we had Olivier Bernard or John Beresford here now he'd possibly be seen by many as our best player but not the most important. Best player means nowt, it's a crap term. The most important need not be "the best" if such a thing could be defined. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Club and player seem genuinely adamant that there was no wrong-doing, here. You often get platitudes over this sort of thing but if Rafa reckons he didn't say it, then neither do I. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Here's an example, if we had Olivier Bernard or John Beresford here now he'd possibly be seen by many as our best player but not the most important. Best player means nowt, it's a crap term. The most important need not be "the best" if such a thing could be defined. Who do you think is our most important player? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Here's an example, if we had Olivier Bernard or John Beresford here now he'd possibly be seen by many as our best player but not the most important. Best player means nowt, it's a crap term. The most important need not be "the best" if such a thing could be defined. Who do you think is our most important player? Shelvey. But fwiw I also think Lascalles, Clarke and Darlow are more likely to cut it with us in the Premiership. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 I think we'll learn over the next few games that Shelvey's our most important player; he dictates the play. Gayle obviously scores for fun but I personally haven't seen a game this season where we didn't create more than one good chance. I think just about any competent striker could get goals in our team. It's the likes of Shelvey, Ritchie and Clark that bring that, and the former is certainly going to be a miss. I don't think it'll be critical, though. We've got 'best in the league' equivalents in several positions, imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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