Hanshithispantz Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 I disagree that he was 'not very good in the main for Swansea'. Yes he lost his place before he joined us but he played nearly every game for Swansea in their highest ever Premier League finish under Monk and also achieved most of his England caps when playing for Swansea. He was probably set for the Euros if he never fucked up at Swansea. People can obviously argue how good of an achievement that is, but it's probably slightly higher than the Championship. I'm not going to defend him before this season like, he was awful last year and by all accounts he just couldn't be fucked at Swansea, he seems to have sorted his head out though - as even at the start of this season he looked rubbish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 I was the opposite tbh, I didn't want him at the time. I think he's shown massive changes under Benitez though and I don't think it's fully down to the competition. He seems like a different bloke. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 He was absolutely the wrong signing at the time. We were desperate for a centre-mid to come in and be great straight away and Shelvey was never gonna be that player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 He was great in his debut tbf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 As always under a good manager, a player has come on leaps and bounds. Rafa has made Shelvey his main man, which is what he needed and he has sorted his fitness out, which was also holding him back. His footballing brain was never in question. I'd argue he's better than any of England's midfielders in that regard. He'd flourish alongside the likes of Henderson who would do the donkey work. He's the best player in this league and he'd be fine in the premiership, if not good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 Henderson is awful, a nothing footballer! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 Henderson is awful, a nothing footballer! Aye but he does work hard. I did use the word donkey. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 Henderson is awful, a nothing footballer! Such rubbish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 HTT is on a roll at the moment like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leazes_End_Mag Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 Henderson is awful, a nothing footballer! Careful, people on here will spit their dummies out if you dare to criticise Hendo. He's the reason Liverpool are doing so well apparently... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 Yeah, that's exactly what was said. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 That's the thing with this place like. Henderson's underrated. Hurhur, you think Henderson's the reason Liverpool are doing so well. So fucking boring, man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2016/oct/20/jonjo-shelvey-rafael-benitez-newcastle-united-liverpool Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 Henderson is awful, a nothing footballer! Such rubbish. He is, watch him closely and there isn't an awful lot that he does to impact the game in any meaningful way. I'd want far more from a player in his position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 Henderson is awful, a nothing footballer! Such rubbish. He is, watch him closely and there isn't an awful lot that he does to impact the game in any meaningful way. I'd want far more from a player in his position. I watch Liverpool regularly and you're definitely talking rubbish imo like. All opinions though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 Henderson is awful, a nothing footballer! Such rubbish. He is, watch him closely and there isn't an awful lot that he does to impact the game in any meaningful way. I'd want far more from a player in his position. I used to think this, but he's a massive player for Liverpool even more under klopp. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 Henderson is awful, a nothing footballer! Such rubbish. He is, watch him closely and there isn't an awful lot that he does to impact the game in any meaningful way. I'd want far more from a player in his position. I used to think this, but he's a massive player for Liverpool even more under klopp. Not my kind of player at all. If it works for Klopp though... I wouldn't have him anywhere near the England team though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 Who would you have had in the last England squad as centre mids then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 Who would you have had in the last England squad as centre mids then? To clarify I meant starting team. It would be a stretch for me to include him in the squad still. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 That pass for the first goal to Dummett. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 That pass for the first goal to Dummett. Dummett actually did really well to pull out wide to give him space to make the pass. He was quite in field when Shelvey received the ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 Henderson is awful, a nothing footballer! Such rubbish. He is, watch him closely and there isn't an awful lot that he does to impact the game in any meaningful way. I'd want far more from a player in his position. I used to think this, but he's a massive player for Liverpool even more under klopp. Not my kind of player at all. If it works for Klopp though... I wouldn't have him anywhere near the England team though. he's not rubbish but henderson is far from a top class midfielder like, works hard as fuck which will be paying off under klopp obvs but he's not a straight DM and doesn't score or assist enough to be a major attacking threat Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 Fucking owns this league. Pisses it. Runs the show from the first minute to the last, big fan of him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 Haven't seen him that much apart from the highlights and the odd game but what a change of events considering what most of us expected from him. There's never been any doubts about him having talent. Say what you want about the level of the Championship, but he's changed for the better and is fitter than ever, and is really enjoying his football playing with great confidence and this is the biggest reason he is doing so well for us, and long may it continue. I'm certain that if he looks after himself and continues with the attitude he has now then he will be a very good player in the PL as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 Rafa's the best manager for him like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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