Odear Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 Could Pardew not take this cunt off our hands? Am really struggling to see how he'll fit into Rafa's plans.. unless there's a huge improvement in all areas of his game over the pre season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 I noticed in the last couple of games when he came on Rafa played him behind the front man. If Rafa could get him to master that position it would be ideal. It's where he originally played when he came through at Charlton, he's got a great shot and can really play a through ball, and so if he can settle into that spot it would help the balance of the team. Really don't think he works in a midfield two, if we are playing the 4-2-3-1 Rafa prefers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odear Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 I noticed in the last couple of games when he came on Rafa played him behind the front man. If Rafa could get him to master that position it would be ideal. It's where he originally played when he came through at Charlton, he's got a great shot and can really play a through ball, and so if he can settle into that spot it would help the balance of the team. Really don't think he works in a midfield two, if we are playing the 4-2-3-1 Rafa prefers. To be honest, I've seen enough of his feeble attempts at tracking back. It's not just one or two positions in a team that have to do it so the case for just moving him into the no.10 position doesn't fill me with hope. Far more interested in seeing De Jong finally get a run in the team in that role. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 no question rafa shanked him after the final day and quietly disposed of the body Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_69 Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 I noticed in the last couple of games when he came on Rafa played him behind the front man. If Rafa could get him to master that position it would be ideal. It's where he originally played when he came through at Charlton, he's got a great shot and can really play a through ball, and so if he can settle into that spot it would help the balance of the team. Really don't think he works in a midfield two, if we are playing the 4-2-3-1 Rafa prefers. To be honest, I've seen enough of his feeble attempts at tracking back. It's not just one or two positions in a team that have to do it so the case for just moving him into the no.10 position doesn't fill me with hope. Far more interested in seeing De Jong finally get a run in the team in that role. another player i'd totally forgotten we had Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 Danny Guthrie and Kevin Nolan, were about as mobile for Neville Southall and Neil Ruddock. Yet we won the league easily, with that centre midfield pairing for a large chunk of the season. His lack of mobility and athleticism, won't be such a problem a league down. He'll get the time on the ball that he needs, as well. It's why the likes of Barton look brilliant in the Champ and then average as a centre mid, in the prem. It sounds cocky and arrogant, but I still think people are overestimating this league. Hull and Burnley have just bounced straight back and I'd argue we're sitting in a better position than they were this time last year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 Bit harsh to call him a cunt like He'll tear the Championship apart. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 Danny Guthrie and Kevin Nolan, were about as mobile for Neville Southall and Neil Ruddock. Yet we won the league easily, with that centre midfield pairing for a large chunk of the season. His lack of mobility and athleticism, won't be such a problem a league down. He'll get the time on the ball that he needs, as well. It's why the likes of Barton look brilliant in the Champ and then average as a centre mid, in the prem. It sounds cocky and arrogant, but I still think people are overestimating this league. Hull and Burnley have just bounced straight back and I'd argue we're sitting in a better position than they were this time last year. Very good point to be fair. However, I'd like to see us use him in a way that we would if we were still in the prem, so that he can develop in such a role, which would be better for his and our future. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 This blood has less heart than Townsend. He'll be off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 Danny Guthrie and Kevin Nolan, were about as mobile for Neville Southall and Neil Ruddock. Yet we won the league easily, with that centre midfield pairing for a large chunk of the season. His lack of mobility and athleticism, won't be such a problem a league down. He'll get the time on the ball that he needs, as well. It's why the likes of Barton look brilliant in the Champ and then average as a centre mid, in the prem. It sounds cocky and arrogant, but I still think people are overestimating this league. Hull and Burnley have just bounced straight back and I'd argue we're sitting in a better position than they were this time last year. Very good point to be fair. However, I'd like to see us use him in a way that we would if we were still in the prem, so that he can develop in such a role, which would be better for his and our future. I don't want him to play as a 10. I still think he best attributes are his long range passing and getting on the ball deep. I think we have better options to play 10, at present. But 2-3 of them might leave, TBF. Shelvey might yet, anyway! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tisd09 Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 I'd be happy to see him go but part of me still feels that there is a player in there somewhere. If anyone can get the best out of him surely its Rafa, Rafa won't take no nonsense from him either so if he was being cock I don't think Rafa would think twice in benching him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 Wouldn't be surprised to see him get a handful of assists and 10+ goals next season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 I hope we get one or two cm's in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 Literally would give zero fucks if he never played for us again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 Have a feeling that Gini will stay and score a shit load of goals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 I don't care if he stays or leaves but you have to think he would destroy the Championship. If he can't then he may as well hang up his boots. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 What role did Mr Transparent play in his first game for us? Didn't see the game but i read on here that he was absolutely brilliant, but after that he was very bad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 Same as every other game he played with us just we had a lot of time on the ball in the first half as West Ham were awful. When he has time he's literally Pirlo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 Literally would give zero fucks if he never played for us again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 Have a feeling that Gini will stay and score a shit load of goals. No chance he stays. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 Literally would give zero fucks if he never played for us again. Same, his attitude last season really pissed me off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 Literally would give zero fucks if he never played for us again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 Would rather just move him in on and bring in a more dynamic, hungry player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 Literally would give zero f***s if he never played for us again. Same. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 Danny Guthrie and Kevin Nolan, were about as mobile for Neville Southall and Neil Ruddock. Yet we won the league easily, with that centre midfield pairing for a large chunk of the season. His lack of mobility and athleticism, won't be such a problem a league down. He'll get the time on the ball that he needs, as well. It's why the likes of Barton look brilliant in the Champ and then average as a centre mid, in the prem. It sounds cocky and arrogant, but I still think people are overestimating this league. Hull and Burnley have just bounced straight back and I'd argue we're sitting in a better position than they were this time last year. Guthrie, Barton and Nolan might not have been athletic but they tracked back and put their foot in. That's the issue with Shelvey, central midfield is not a part of the pitch where you can just stroll around watching other players do the running. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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