joeyt Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 Might deploying Adnan Januzaj in the hole be the way forward for Sunderland’s Manchester United loanee? It certainly looked that way as David Moyes switched to 4-2-3-1 with the hitherto underwhelming Januzaj behind Jermain Defoe and flanked by Fabio Borini and the influential Victor Anichebe. Januzaj enjoyed the best game of his Wearside secondment as Sunderland’s survival hopes were sustained and, once again, Jordan Pickford shone in goal. Excellent with hands and, significantly, feet, could Pickford end up as a key element of Pep Guardiola’s Manchester City revolution? With Sunderland £140m in debt, shouldering a £73m wage bill and in peril of contravening Premier League remuneration cap rules, Moyes, who is lacking nine injured senior players, needs to sell either Pickford or Lamine Koné (whose contract contains a £25m release clause) next month in order to introduce new faces. It is a harsh, stark choice https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2016/dec/19/premier-league-ten-talking-points-weekend Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobS Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 hahaha that makes great reading. Hope they sink like a stone never to come back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 Give Moyes his dues mind. He's doing a pretty good job with what he's got to work with. He'll keep them up purely on the basis that they'll beat most the teams around them at home. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 Give Moyes his dues mind. He's doing a pretty good job with what he's got to work with. He'll keep them up purely on the basis that they'll beat most the teams around them at home. He's been lucky, not good. In 3 of their 4 wins they were still 2nd best team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 Have they got a freak win against one of the big clubs in them like in recent seasons? They just seem to try to set up to hang in games against them this season which they're not enough at doing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 Give Moyes his dues mind. He's doing a pretty good job with what he's got to work with. He'll keep them up purely on the basis that they'll beat most the teams around them at home. Did he sign Defoe or Aanholt? If not, I don't see why he should take any credit for them winning game after game with the only attacking threat they seem to have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 Give Moyes his dues mind. He's doing a pretty good job with what he's got to work with. He'll keep them up purely on the basis that they'll beat most the teams around them at home. Did he sign Defoe or Aanholt? If not, I don't see why he should take any credit for them winning game after game with the only attacking threat they seem to have. So no manager should get any credit if they didn't sign the player/s that's scoring goals? He did bring in Anichebe for what it's worth which seems to have helped Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 I don't really understand the logic like. So Steve McClaren cannot take any credit for taking Derby from 20th to 7th? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 Rafa can't take any credit from Lascelles and Shelvey's performance this season because he didn't sign them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 It's a disgrace Ranieri was given the Coach of the Year award last night ahead of Nigel Pearson. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 Sorry but I don't think Moyes has made much difference regardless of what Rafa or Ranieri have done, it's ike comparing apples and oranges. Anichebe might have given them just enough extra to grab a win here or there, but Defoe or van Aanholt would be doing exactly the same regardless of whether Moyes was in charge or not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altamullan Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 Don't think it so much about who signed who, more is the current manager getting the most out of what he's got; or getting more out of them than previous incumbents. Thankfully (from what I've heard from a dyed in the wool macnamara mate) I haven't seen enough of them to comment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benwell Lad Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 Give Moyes his dues mind. He's doing a pretty good job with what he's got to work with. He'll keep them up purely on the basis that they'll beat most the teams around them at home. He's been lucky, not good. In 3 of their 4 wins they were still 2nd best team. I thinks he's currently squeezing the most he can get out of a very meagre bunch of players through a very unambitious style of play. None of their recent victories were particularly convincing displays and on Saturday they performed to their optimum and just scraped a fortunate win against Watford. There will be occasional wins but not many playing that way, however the teams around them who are playing more adventurously won't get many either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shintonsghost Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 Give Moyes his dues mind. He's doing a pretty good job with what he's got to work with. He'll keep them up purely on the basis that they'll beat most the teams around them at home. He's been lucky, not good. In 3 of their 4 wins they were still 2nd best team. totally this, Watford should have been out of sight, Mackems were dog shit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shintonsghost Posted December 19, 2016 Share Posted December 19, 2016 Sorry but I don't think Moyes has made much difference regardless of what Rafa or Ranieri have done, it's ike comparing apples and oranges. Anichebe might have given them just enough extra to grab a win here or there, but Defoe or van Aanholt would be doing exactly the same regardless of whether Moyes was in charge or not. and this Defoe and PVA do what they have always done, Anichebe has had one decent game bulldozing his way to goal and hitting the cunt as hard as he can, another clogger who got lucky in one game in truth. They play long ball hoof footy up to Defoe hoping to get him in behind, in the first half v Watford he never got a sniff and was berating his team at the service, they are just about the second worst footballing team in the division and fuck their way to wins, seriously its not all sour grapes they are shocking and how they won on Saturday is beyond me, but its what they do, horrible horrible team. its sad to see them getting out of it but ive said all along they just "know" how to spawn a win and will survive, Moyes has made NO difference at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 Have a look at the comments under here man from mackems think the world is against them. Magedia and all that. They really are the weirdest bunch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 The reason Moyes shouldn't take any credit is there's nothing to take credit for. They're in the bottom three doing the same thing they do every season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 THREE scorers in the Premier League this season - unbelievable! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjb Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 So glad we're not gift-wrapping 6 points for them this year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stray Mackem Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 THREE scorers in the Premier League this season - unbelievable! Aye, we'll be top six once our midfield start chipping in with a few goals Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hithere Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 THREE scorers in the Premier League this season - unbelievable! Aye, we'll be top six once our midfield start chipping in with a few goals Can't remember the last time a midfielder got goals for us. Hutchison? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 THREE scorers in the Premier League this season - unbelievable! Aye, we'll be top six once our midfield start chipping in with a few goals Can't remember the last time a midfielder got goals for us. Hutchison? Colback. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stray Mackem Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 THREE scorers in the Premier League this season - unbelievable! Aye, we'll be top six once our midfield start chipping in with a few goals Can't remember the last time a midfielder got goals for us. Hutchison? AJ got a few but I suppose he was a winger (amongst other things) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhoywhonder Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 AJ got a few but I suppose he has a finger (amongst other things) The prosecution rests... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shintonsghost Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 AJ got a few but I suppose he has a finger (amongst other things) The prosecution rests... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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