NG32 Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 From guardian article on Sunderland... "Coleman, who has fully committed himself to “this massive club” by relocating his family from Winchester to Newcastle," Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 From guardian article on Sunderland... "Coleman, who has fully committed himself to “this massive club” by relocating his family from Winchester to Newcastle," Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fedyan Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 Heart bleeds for McGeady specifically. Must be missing having his personal chef, driver and liaison officer (to drag him out of the nightclub at 7 am) and all the other perks. Heart bleeds for the daft tw@t. Not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 We should start off loads of random rumours about how Sunderland are trying to penny pinch and tweet them. The club would get well p*ssed off denying them They can’t afford to pay for police presence at games and have been telling the powers that be that they can police games themselves and they don’t need the amount of officers generally needed. They must be giving stewards honorary sheriff badges. The police force have told them that if they don’t get paid they won’t be doing it for free. TBF we did that for the UEFA Cup games Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 Whats the point of policing empty seats. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Icke - Son of God Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 I saw one or two of their lot claiming that going into administration, selling the ground and renting it back would be fine because we do it. Who the fuck are we apparently renting St James' Park from? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinkeye Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 St James' is owned by Newcastle City Council.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Icke - Son of God Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 Aye, but it's not 'rented' in any conventional sense though is it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 Aye, but it's not 'rented' in any conventional sense though is it? Nope, the land is leased to NUFC for something like 100 years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 I thought the club owns the Stadium, just not the land its on? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 I thought the club owns the Stadium, just not the land its on? Yeah, the land is leased to NUFC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinkeye Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 Yes, the above seems to be the correct situation. Very long term lease on the land that the stadium stands on. I think that some of the surrounding land is owned by Ashley personally. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 I bet plenty Mackems who go on about that own leasehold properties- and still consider they own them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 Yes, the above seems to be the correct situation. Very long term lease on the land that the stadium stands on. I think that some of the surrounding land is owned by Ashley personally. Nah, he just stole some of the leases from NUFC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 I bet plenty Mackems who go on about that own leasehold properties- and still consider they own them. Its mackem logic tho. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest covmag Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 if Hull get anything more than a defeat tonight it's another nail in them Howay Hull :indi: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altamullan Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 I thought the club owns the Stadium, just not the land its on? So applying makemathics, if you have paid off your mortgage on your leasehold property, you are still renting? Love that place; you learn something new everyday (mainly not to bother visiting/mocking the afflicted). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 He's not giving it away for free, he wants £69m for it. His shareholder loan will be subordinated to the amounts owed to Guggenheim, who are probably getting ready to cut him off. This is his last chance to maximise what he will get back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elric Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 I thought the club owns the Stadium, just not the land its on? So applying makemathics, if you have paid off your mortgage on your leasehold property, you are still renting? Love that place; you learn something new everyday (mainly not to bother visiting/mocking the afflicted). Apropos of nothing, the overlap between Keegan and Robson in your avatar looks like some kinda weird conjoined twin (where one has apparently aged quicker than the other). It's the shared eye-space between them Actually, thinking of it, it's not unrelated to the discussion at all. Seems the perfect outlet to discuss hideous mutants* *relating to the picture mash-up only, obvs. There have never been two finer men. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altamullan Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 Haha. What a hybrid the combined best attributes of those four would make though! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ankles Bennett Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 If they go down, I think they will be down there for a while. Crowds will decrease even more and the team will be filled with journeymen league two and one players managed by similar. It will be. Long road back for them. I disagree They have a very good academy which would in my opinion do very well playing in league one. You just have to look at Armstrong in league one with Coventry and now Blackburn especially when their u18s regularly stuff ours. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 The PL is the gravy train for investors, nobody is going to stick £140m up when the minimum time to get back there is potentially two years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 If they go down, I think they will be down there for a while. Crowds will decrease even more and the team will be filled with journeymen league two and one players managed by similar. It will be. Long road back for them. I disagree They have a very good academy which would in my opinion do very well playing in league one. You just have to look at Armstrong in league one with Coventry and now Blackburn especially when their u18s regularly stuff ours. Their Academy side hardly tore the Checkatrade Trophy apart against league One and Two sides. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 https://twitter.com/jonnymartin1/status/966951619572121601 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilky Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 Yes, the above seems to be the correct situation. Very long term lease on the land that the stadium stands on. I think that some of the surrounding land is owned by Ashley personally. The not owning our stadium is the biggest mackem myth going and demonstrates a lack of knowledge on property. SJP, like a lot of buildings in the city centre is leased by the council on 99 or 999 year leases. The rent is referred to as a 'peppercorn' as it is a derisory figure as it is also referred to as an 'effective freehold'. Anyone who owns or mortgages a flat (other than Tyneside flats as they have a unique arrangement) according to mackems doesn't own said flat because you cannot have a 'flying freehold' (unless you have a commonhold with others in the flat block but that is rare). In both scenarios you have security of tenure and every 15 to 20 years have the right to renew the lease based on a formula. If you leave it 99 years the money will be a sum equivalent to the market value of the site but the majority of people aren't daft enough so will renew it ever 15-20 years. The Landlord (the council) cannot take the lands back or refuse a renewal of the lease. Its such a non issue but reflects the fact the land our stadium is on is prime city centre land and the land their stadium is on is........ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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