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[Sima]

Just needs to get a 1-9 after the NUFC imo.

[joeyt]

They're in trouble when they go down at the end of this season, don't think we'll see them for a good few years.

 

Would absolutely love to get them in the cup this season. Win-win for us, wouldn't be expected to win but if we did - it'd ruin their lives.

 

I think they'll scrape survival yet again

 

It's a tough call:

 

 

Pros for them staying up:

Manager with a pedigree

A fair few poor teams on paper this season

History of turning things around

January window to come

 

Cons

Personally can't think of a weaker squad in the division

Playing like a relegation side already

Manager said to the world they are in a relegation fight in August

No Newcastle games to get them 4-6 points

Manager may not be relevant anymore

Goals come from one source and he's 34

 

 

It was far easier to list Cons than Pros, that's got to be a big indication that they may have run out of luck this year. I think after their game at Spuds, someone said they have a couple of games against other relegation rivals, that'll be a good time to judge if they are likely to eventually be flushed away this year.

 

Think the African Nations could be huge for them, their 2 starting CBs will be away for a month, as well as their record signing and Khazri

[Guest chopey]

The biggest worry has to be a Defoe injury

[afar]

The biggest worry has to be a Defoe injury

 

It is, but equally who is going to create the chances for Defoe, even when he's fit ? They've got a lot of head down runners in that team, not a player amongst them with any vision to play in Defoe. Oh also they were terrible at the back on Monday Hehe it's not an easy fix for them.

[Geordie Ahmed]

The biggest worry has to be a Defoe injury

 

It is, but equally who is going to create the chances for Defoe, even when he's fit ? They've got a lot of head down runners in that team, not a player amongst them with any vision to play in Defoe. Oh also they were terrible at the back on Monday Hehe it's not an easy fix for them.

Defoe feeds off scraps, he showed that last season

 

He gets injured and you struggle to see where the goals will come from

[afar]

The biggest worry has to be a Defoe injury

 

It is, but equally who is going to create the chances for Defoe, even when he's fit ? They've got a lot of head down runners in that team, not a player amongst them with any vision to play in Defoe. Oh also they were terrible at the back on Monday Hehe it's not an easy fix for them.

Defoe feeds off scraps, he showed that last season

 

He gets injured and you struggle to see where the goals will come from

 

Seriously they are going to struggle to even create "scraps" the way they are playing.

[Geordie Ahmed]

The biggest worry has to be a Defoe injury

 

It is, but equally who is going to create the chances for Defoe, even when he's fit ? They've got a lot of head down runners in that team, not a player amongst them with any vision to play in Defoe. Oh also they were terrible at the back on Monday Hehe it's not an easy fix for them.

Defoe feeds off scraps, he showed that last season

 

He gets injured and you struggle to see where the goals will come from

 

Seriously they are going to struggle to even create "scraps" the way they are playing.

True BUT they are the turd that won't flush for a reason, think they will find a way to just survive again

[Stray Mackem]

The biggest worry has to be a Defoe injury

 

I think our biggest worry is our manager talking about a relegation fight in August  Obvioulsy been to the McClaren school of football management.

[Guest]

Or he just knows where he is.

[Guest chopey]

The biggest worry has to be a Defoe injury

 

I think our biggest worry is our manager talking about a relegation fight in August  Obvioulsy been to the McClaren school of football management.

 

McClaren would have said that it was a magnificent performance and that every player was outstanding and that you cant judge him off 1 game, just wait till 10 games ...........then 15 ............then Christmas..............then after the transfer window.

[maze]

Has the meltdown at RTG increased yet?

[Mattoon]

Has the meltdown at RTG increased yet?

 

They're just digging their heels in about us, how most of the PL would smash us and that we've spent more than any other club in the league and Rafa should be beating all the other teams, any manager could. Also that we should be licking Ashley's boots for "bank rolling" the club bunch of inbred, paedo-loving, neanderthal cretins.

 

Anyone that suggests they'll be relegated after 4 games is either a bed wetter or a mag too.

[maze]

Has the meltdown at RTG increased yet?

 

They're just digging their heels in about us, how most of the PL would smash us and that we've spent more than any other club in the league and Rafa should be beating all the other teams, any manager could. Also that we should be licking Ashley's boots for "bank rolling" the club bunch of inbred, paedo-loving, neanderthal cretins.

 

Anyone that suggests they'll be relegated after 4 games is either a bed wetter or a mag too.

 

Ah! It is going to be a true delight watching them sink this year. The sooner they sink the better. Imagine getting a full season of total meltdown 

[Guest firetotheworks]

 

 

The biggest worry has to be a Defoe injury

 

I think our biggest worry is our manager talking about a relegation fight in August  Obvioulsy been to the McClaren school of football management.

 

It's not great management but it's also kind of deflecting away from the point, that he's absolutely right.

[Disco]

They're also saying we spent £55m. It's almost as if they're as thick as pig's shite or something.

 

A fair number think we're on the verge of bankruptcy.

 

The biggest worry has to be a Defoe injury

 

I think our biggest worry is our manager talking about a relegation fight in August  Obvioulsy been to the McClaren school of football management.

 

As a non native you must despise him, wasn't you in the dugout v Boro was it?

[Tubestationatmidnight]

Supposed to be as good as it gets for them this too, " sending us down" yet they will do well to scrape 17th again whilst we are still getting bigger gates and have a far more positive atmosphere and club than them even in a league below. Must kill them. Imagine the state they would be in if they went down

 

Us going down and them staying up is just delaying the inevitable

[afar]

The biggest worry has to be a Defoe injury

 

I think our biggest worry is our manager talking about a relegation fight in August  Obvioulsy been to the McClaren school of football management.

 

I don't disagree with that at all, it set a negative tone for the whole season, it was a hamfisted attempt to extract more money from the owner, but all it served was removing any hope from the fan base and put potential transfer targets off a move to a club who are aiming for 17th at best. And people applauded him for his honesty !!

[Guest firetotheworks]

I really think anyone's a bit mad if you think that that squad is anything other than relegation fodder tbh. He shouldn't have said it, but he's definitely not wrong, whether he publicly said so or not.

 

[afar]

I really think you're a bit mad to think that that squad is anything other than relegation fodder tbh. He shouldn't have said it, but he's definitely not wrong, whether he publicly said so or not.

 

He can think it and say it to his chairman but coming out in public with the truth isn't always the right thing to do. It was just a clear attempt to get the owner to put his hand in his pocket, but then when he did he spent 13 million on an unknown to play in a position he already had plenty of options for.

[Tiresias]

It's hardly great motivator for his squad is it when manager basically says they're barely good enough in public.

[Benwell Lad]

They're also saying we spent £55m. It's almost as if they're as thick as pig's shite or something.

 

A fair number think we're on the verge of bankruptcy.

 

The biggest worry has to be a Defoe injury

 

I think our biggest worry is our manager talking about a relegation fight in August  Obvioulsy been to the McClaren school of football management.

 

As a non native you must despise him, wasn't you in the dugout v Boro was it?

 

[huss9]

still, have to hand it to them for getting behind that kid bradley with the tumour. there's a another kid called frankie with same condition (my kids u9's involved in fundraising) who is toon daft but their family have had little support from nufc.

[Slim]

still, have to hand it to them for getting behind that kid bradley with the tumour. there's a another kid called frankie with same condition (my kids u9's involved in fundraising) who is toon daft but their family have had little support from nufc.

 

Message Rafa I am sure he will cure him

[Benwell Lad]

still, have to hand it to them for getting behind that kid bradley with the tumour. there's a another kid called frankie with same condition (my kids u9's involved in fundraising) who is toon daft but their family have had little support from nufc.

 

Of course we would all like to help these kids and hope they will receive the best medical attention possible but I'd really have to question just what level of support any club should be expected to give?

While Everton's gesture was generous I'm not sure it was really wise and may set some kind of precedent where every unfortunate child's family thinks a football club will pay for their needs.

It's good that local clubs highlight such causes, raise awareness and assist with items to auction etc. but how far should they reasonably be expected to go and how many such cases can they become involved in ?

Both Newcastle and Sunderland through their foundations do a lot of good work in their communities and help local charities, but this kind of support for sick children would really be better served by taking it up with local politicians, government and relevant charities which already exist, rather than expect a football club to decide which cases merit their help and which don't.