mouldy_uk Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 Are we anticipating a decision within the next fortnight/before euros? I'm anticipating one in the next few days, see no reason why not as they are talking now and he's already at the club (so it's not like it's a leap into the unknown) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
astraguy Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 Surely with Rafa in charge we'd make alot of tv revenue Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallace Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 Surely with Rafa in charge we'd make alot of tv revenue Not in the Championship. They will only get about £3m I think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueview Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 Are we anticipating a decision within the next fortnight/before euros? Given the "A maximum of two weeks" statement from Rafa.. Yes I imagine so Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest antz1uk Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 we need everton to appoint a manager Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 we need everton to appoint a manager He is not going to Everton. 100000% Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milburn Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 Confirmation of him staying within this week is my guess. They are probably negotiating a new contract with him as well, just to put out a statement. 5 or 6 years? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 we need everton to appoint a manager He is not going to Everton. 100000% Would feel a lot more relaxed if they announced a new boss this week tho Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 My guess would be it would remain a 3 year deal with the removal of the walk-away clause and further contractual obligations that Rafa would want in writing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 My quick thoughts on what is being reported. - I don't think Ashley would need to be present again if the meeting went well last night and he confirmed his original pledge to just leave all club matters with Charnley. I'd think last night would be enough for Rafa to get the assurances he needs and Ashley to say his peace and hopefully do what he can to persuade Rafa to stay - I fully expect Rafa to be true to his word and take his time and a few days to gather his thoughts and assess his options before fully committing to an answer and returning for talks. - I think the timeline could also be more Rafa mind games though and he absolutely knows his decision already, just wants assurances from Charnley and Ashley, an ironclad contract that he will need the clubs legal team to create and them his personal legal team to then review before they go back to the table and talk. I think he is almost expecting a stay but wants them to know he has offers and rightly will want time to assess options..really a get this done quickly if you want me Ashley and Charnley. - not getting too excited these meetings could be as much as severance as staying. - If he stays I wouldn't be surprised to see a break clause again if we fail to reach the premier league. That said it's in the best interest of the club he commits long term. - think we will have an answer by the end of the week if things go positively with Charnley today. Will be a case of getting the contract drawn up, reviewed by Rafas legal counsel then it's dependent on if amendments are needed as to how much longer it will be drawn out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 Wouldn't severance already be arranged though? He'd just activate the clause. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomson Mouse Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 Confirmation of him staying within this week is my guess. They are probably negotiating a new contract with him as well, just to put out a statement. 5 or 6 years? Yep, tied up by next weekend or Monday at the latest. Ashley would have said the right things last night, thumb will be tying up the loose ends this morning I tend to agree, I don't think they would still be talking if yesterday didn't go well. If Ashley fucked up it would be over now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 Yep, if Ashley wanted him out he would have constructively dismissed him in about two sentences. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 Who the fuck is Mike Lee? that film director? jesus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 Fully set my mind to him staying now, would be absolutely devastating if he doesn't. What's encouraging is that he seems like such a genuinely nice and honest man, that his ego won't take a hit by managing in a lower division for a season. Can't see many (any?) other top class managers even considering it, says an awful lot about what a man he is that he is willing to stay. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhoywhonder Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 Who the f*** is Mike Lee? that film director? Yeah, he did Secrets and Fibs, Nude and Vera's Rake. Top bloke. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 I'm still firmly in the "why the fuck would he stay?" camp. There are many many jobs better than the NUFC managerial role right now. He's an absolute mug if he signs on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_69 Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 I'm still firmly in the "why the f*** would he stay?" camp. There are many many jobs better than the NUFC managerial role right now. He's an absolute mug if he signs on. True, but every time one of the elite managers takes on a job like Man City or Chelsea, we all question why, if they're so good, they don't opt for a bigger challenge like turning an unfashionable club into Premier League/Champions League challengers. Rafa has been in and won the Champions League, won domestic cups, won leagues etc. Maybe he's the first of the really top managers to fancy a proper challenge at a club with potential rather than one that is practically guaranteed success. We've all played FM - it's far more interesting winning the Champions League with York City than it is with Man City. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 I'm still firmly in the "why the fuck would he stay?" camp. There are many many jobs better than the NUFC managerial role right now. He's an absolute mug if he signs on. There might be better clubs, but there's not many clubs who have a stadium and fanbase like ours. For a football obsessive like Rafa, that's no small thing. I'm surprised our own fans still question this. Why do you think Keegan fell in love with this place? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 I'm still firmly in the "why the fuck would he stay?" camp. There are many many jobs better than the NUFC managerial role right now. He's an absolute mug if he signs on. There are far many better and easier jobs than the current NUFC one, however I dare say that there isn't one where he'll be able to completely rebuild a club from the ground up like he will here. It does appear that he do want that challenge, and he is confident in his own ability that he will pull it off (as am I). Is he a bit mad for wanting it? Definitely, but I can also very much see the appeal for someone like him to take it on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 I'm still firmly in the "why the fuck would he stay?" camp. There are many many jobs better than the NUFC managerial role right now. He's an absolute mug if he signs on. There are far many better and easier jobs than the current NUFC one, however I dare say that there isn't one where he'll be able to completely rebuild a club from the ground up like he will here. It does appear that he do want that challenge, and he is confident in his own ability that he will pull it off (as am I). Is he a bit mad for wanting it? Definitely, but I can also very much see the appeal for someone like him to take it on. That's it basically. He'll be absolutely confident he can get us promoted first time of asking, then the sky's the limit if Ashley will give him the backing that he is going to demand. If he wins a cup with us he'll become a legend. The way he sets his teams up is ideal for cup runs as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 "he'll be able to completely rebuild a club from the ground up", it's like you've all just completely forgotten who owns the club. This is a fucking awful job, and that's the reason that our previous managers were Alan Pardew and Steve McClaren. Maybe he promises Rafa a much greater level of control, and maybe he actually gives Rafa a little more control than the previous shitehawks, but it'll not be long before they fall out over a nice bit of casual deceit from Mike, and we'll be back to square one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUFC_Chris Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 I think it's probably about 50/50 right now whether he stays/goes. In the post-match interview on Sky Benitez mentioned that he, like the fans, feels it's important to keep a strong team together to come straight back up. I think a lot depends on how the club will manage financially with wages etc. and if the board are able to keep the core of the squad. If he is given certain guarantees I've a feeling he'll stay, if not he'll be away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 "he'll be able to completely rebuild a club from the ground up", it's like you've all just completely forgotten who owns the club. This is a fucking awful job, and that's the reason that our previous managers were Alan Pardew and Steve McClaren. Maybe he promises Rafa a much greater level of control, and maybe he actually gives Rafa a little more control than the previous shitehawks, but it'll not be long before they fall out over a nice bit of casual deceit from Mike, and we'll be back to square one. Naive of me, I know, but I do think there's a desperation with Mike and Little Mike that they know they have to get this one right, and that means giving Rafa full control. You're obviously spot on that it probably will end up with Rafa walking after they have fucked him over, but it's that promise that means he is considering taking the job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElDiablo Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 This is a good opportunity for Ashley to wash his hands of any future drama and know the club will be in good hands with Rafa. Think he'll be glad to pass over some responsibility. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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