The College Dropout Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 But TCD, none of that is 'knowing the league', it is about knowing the team you are working with. Rafa doesn't need to 'know the Championship', he just needs to know his best 11 and best tactics for each game. we are getting caught up in semantics. He hasn't got up to speed with the challenge yet. We look setup to counter from what I've seen and the teams in division aren't interested in attacking us like that. That's very naive imo, I could had predicted teams would sit back against us. well aye - he's played Anita RM twice. No need. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegacyofNick Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 His job would be a lot easier if we didn't have a midfield full of players who can't tackle, shoot, pass or move and offer options to the player on the ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 I do think quite a few have greatly underestimated the strength of this league (some going so far as to put money on us going undefeated, which is totally asinine), based largely on our experience from 2009/10. It's not remotely the same league it was even six years ago: the PL doesn't exist in a vacuum, its good fortunes do somewhat trickle down. The quality's fucking abject, man. Give over. Just look at the Burnley side that won it. Hmm, no? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odear Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 We've had a long time to make our minds up about some players, it'll take him a little longer for the penny to drop. I'm not overreacting. I had total faith in the man before the season started and I still do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 We've had a long time to make our minds up about some players, it'll take him a little longer for the penny to drop. I'm not overreacting. I had total faith in the man before the season started and I still do. He sounded as frustrated as the fans after the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 But TCD, none of that is 'knowing the league', it is about knowing the team you are working with. Rafa doesn't need to 'know the Championship', he just needs to know his best 11 and best tactics for each game. we are getting caught up in semantics. He hasn't got up to speed with the challenge yet. We look setup to counter from what I've seen and the teams in division aren't interested in attacking us like that. We aren't set up to counter at all. That involves letting the opposition have the ball, sitting deep and hitting them in the break. We've had more possession than our opponents but we haven't got a clue what to do with it. Huddersfield played more counter attacking football yesterday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubestationatmidnight Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 TBF if Rafa gets the Striker, winger and left back he wants he'll have no excuses I keep seeing people mentioning them 3 positions and rightly so but what we are missing most is a playmaker. All we do is play it wide and then there's nobody to aim for in the middle. We are in desperate need of somebody to get on the ball in between our midfield and attack. Will be a hard slog to go up if we don't sign one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 TBF if Rafa gets the Striker, winger and left back he wants he'll have no excuses I keep seeing people mentioning them 3 positions and rightly so but what we are missing most is a playmaker. All we do is play it wide and then there's nobody to aim for in the middle. We are in desperate need of somebody to get on the ball in between our midfield and attack. Will be a hard slog to go up if we don't sign one Diame should be this season's Nolan tbh. I'm not too concerned about our middle yet when there's obvious positions in need of strengthening. I'd not say no to a proven creative midfielder, but it's vital that we get a new winger and a left back. I'm not too fussed about getting a striker in since Mitro will be back soon and we could just keep Armstrong as 3rd choice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubestationatmidnight Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 I don't mean a midfielder who arrives late in the box and get goals, more a out and out playmaker who is good on the ball and can thread balls through the channels. We don't have a single player like this and haven't for a while Also it could be argued centre midfield is the worst part of our team Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 For me the majority of our problems have been because we're threadbare in the middle tbh in recent years. It seems shelvey can't be relied on and I hope that Diame can contribute though I know very little of him (irrelevant I suppose). Once again we're starting off lacking - I think mitro will make a big difference and provide more support but our midfield as it is will just crumble and make nothing for him if not addressed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 TBF if Rafa gets the Striker, winger and left back he wants he'll have no excuses I keep seeing people mentioning them 3 positions and rightly so but what we are missing most is a playmaker. All we do is play it wide and then there's nobody to aim for in the middle. We are in desperate need of somebody to get on the ball in between our midfield and attack. Will be a hard slog to go up if we don't sign one This is a big problem but is a team shape issue more than a personnel issue. Needs fixed asap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 I love Rafa and still believe in him, but I do wonder if he is the right fix for us. In every single way he is or ought to be, but this is Newcastle and I just fear this will all end up horribly wrong when it shouldn't. This is 2 games, however and Rafa is a slow burner and not adverse to some funny old results just look at his career. He needs backing even more in the transfer market, even if it means breaking our transfer record on a championship player. We are the big boys in this division and need to start acting it when it comes to transfers. Spending 30m on two players from this league and 100k in wages between the two is nowt if it helps us achieve promotion. I know from various people that Rafa feels the club are not as prepared as they should be to get their men whatever the cost and that's worrying, as is the attitude of some players. He needs to play a midfield of Aarons, Tiote, Diame and Ritchie and drop Dummett and we need to buy a goalscorer at this level. He also needs to drop the cautious play with regards to the opposition, we are NUFC and shouldn't worry about anyone or anything in this league and that's not arrogance from me. Fingers crossed in 10 games time we are right up there in contention... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 Tiote's not gonna be in the lineup, man. Howay. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 Tiote's not gonna be in the lineup, man. Howay. He should be though, we are weak as piss in there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 Aarons was awful at the weekend, I'd rather play Janmatt in his position and use a different right back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubestationatmidnight Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 I know we don't have many other options or no other options in some case and i know it's hard to sign quality in the championship but I always feel Newcastle fans always over rate and over hype some of our players when they are either average are done nothing yet. Is a left hand side of Aarons and dummett any better than the mid table sides? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 Tiote's not gonna be in the lineup, man. Howay. He should be though, we are weak as piss in there. we really are, second best to everything yesterday, no fight or physical presence. If we don't fix that soon the only way we'll go up is signing a striker who can score 30 goals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 I don't mean a midfielder who arrives late in the box and get goals, more a out and out playmaker who is good on the ball and can thread balls through the channels. We don't have a single player like this and haven't for a while Isn't that what Shelvey was bought for? I mean he can't do much else, so you would hope he could do that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 I don't mean a midfielder who arrives late in the box and get goals, more a out and out playmaker who is good on the ball and can thread balls through the channels. We don't have a single player like this and haven't for a while Isn't that what Shelvey was bought for? I mean he can't do much else, so you would hope he could do that. He seems all about the long Hollywood pass though, when what we're missing is someone to thread cute little passes in between spaces. Not sure he's ever going to do that consistently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 Shelvey can't be blamed if he has no movement in front of him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 Shelvey can't be blamed if he has no movement in front of him Definitely not just Shelvey to blame but he is an asthmatic 80 year old who doesn't give his all, part of the problem not the solution. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 A lot of the time Shelvey tries his Hollywood pass because he's had the ball for a few minutes and there is no fucker moving in front of him, or he's given it to a team mate and they've ran in a circle and passed it straight back to him. We have such a losing mindset at the moment, I've said it so many times but after a couple of wins we'll be bouncing and the players will look entirely different. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 Would like him to experiment with his different striker combinations, but unfortunately he can't do that properly yet cos one of the dafties has got himself suspended. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 Nobody is ever beyond criticism but I have full faith in him and it'll take quite a while to change that. Think people that are faltering already are slightly mental. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted August 15, 2016 Share Posted August 15, 2016 Would like him to experiment with his different striker combinations, but unfortunately he can't do that properly yet cos one of the dafties has got himself suspended. Rafa has never played two strikers from the start throughout his career, do you think he will be willing to now? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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