Ketsbaia Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Any #10's in Holland we can dream about for an hour or two? Ajax have a decent one - bit of a weak lung though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Oh, wait a minute, that makes fucking sense to go there tbh, Ziyech is still available and his market price is around 20m from what I heard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Any #10's in Holland we can dream about for an hour or two? Not these days, no. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuv Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Apparently he's already walked but the club aren't going to announce it until they've personally phoned everyone who owns a box, to tell them first. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Oh, wait a minute, that makes fucking sense to go there tbh, Ziyech is still available and his market price is around 20m from what I heard. From last year: http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/sunderland-tracking-fc-twente-star-11503726 Oh the giggles. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 He is Ajax no. 10, their main driver for the Euro Cup run, the core #10 and speciaist at free kick. It really makes a lot of sense going for him, except that he is from the physically weakest league in the world... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlies Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/newcastle-united-boss-rafa-benitez-13548431.amp Why Newcastle United boss Rafa Benitez was on a flight to Switzerland this morning Newcastle United boss Rafa Benitez flew to a UEFA coaching forum on Tuesday morning BY MARK DOUGLAS11:18, 30 AUG 2017UPDATED11:21, 30 AUG 2017 Rafa Benitez was on a flight out ofNewcastle this morning to attend the UEFA Elite Club Coaches Forum – a gathering of some of the biggest names in world football in Switzerland. Benitez is hoping United do some late business in the transfer window but that hasn’t stopped him accepting an invitation to attend the 19th edition of the “elite” forum – which is chaired by Sir Alex Ferguson. It is a mark of Benitez’s standing in the game that he is one of the coaches invited, with Real Madrid boss Zinedine Zidane, Barcelona chief Ernesto Valverde and Manchester United manager Jose Mourinhoalso invited to the forum. UEFA say the meeting “provides an opportunity for top European club coaches to exchange views on the major issues affecting European club competitions, as well as to discuss and make proposals to UEFA that may be of overall benefit to the European game.” Benitez is a keen student of the game and is heavily involved in mentoring other coaches. With his CV, experience and honours list it’s little surprise that he’s been invited and he is rubbing shoulders with some of the game’s great and good in Nyon this afternoon. READ MORENewcastle United holding out for more than £15million for Dwight Gayle as Fulham slap in late bid Here are the other attendees: – Massimiliano Allegri (Juventus FC) – Eduardo Berizzo (Sevilla FC) – Sergio Conceição (FC Porto) – Unai Emery (Paris Saint-Germain) – Bruno Génésio (Olympique Lyonnais) – Leonardo Jardim (AS Monaco FC) – José Mourinho (Manchester United FC) – Maurizio Sarri (SSC Napoli) – Ernesto Valverde (FC Barcelona) – Rui Vitoria (SL Benfica) – Zinédine Zidane (Real Madrid CF). It is part of a day of UEFA summits. The European football body reports there will also be a round-table disucssion with former players involving UEFA President Aleksander Čeferin. “Players in attendance include Xabi Alonso, Deco, Leonardo, Peter Schmeichel, Clarence Seedorf, Dejan Stanković, David Trezeguet and Javier Zanetti,” they confirm. Even though Benitez will be in Switzerland, he’s still pushing for more additions at Newcastle head into a hectic final 48 hours of the transfer window. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
U2 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 I can't see Simon Grayson on that list. Must be a mistake. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altamullan Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Should Rafa not be bombing up and down the M1 with brown envelopes stuffed with cash? Fucking amateur. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 As if you wouldn't just give the fucker every resource you have when he's held in such high regard. So frustrating we will be back to Pardew who rubs shoulders with the Grayson's, Warnock's and Bruce's of this world PFM assemble Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Elite Club Coaches Forum. He obviously doesn't work for us anymore. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ads Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Any #10's in Holland we can dream about for an hour or two? Hakim Ziyech. Frenkie De Jong looks like he'll be an excellent player, too. Perhaps not as a classic #10 but very comfortable on the ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Any #10's in Holland we can dream about for an hour or two? Hakim Ziyech. Frenkie De Jong looks like he'll be an excellent player, too. Perhaps not as a classic #10 but very comfortable on the ball. Stay well away from the De Jong's of this world please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ads Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Any #10's in Holland we can dream about for an hour or two? Hakim Ziyech. Frenkie De Jong looks like he'll be an excellent player, too. Perhaps not as a classic #10 but very comfortable on the ball. Stay well away from the De Jong's of this world please. Ajax apparently in talks to bring Nigel De Jong back, too. Potential for a midfield full of them there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 He's blatantly negotiating some late loans with Zidane & Valverde..... No? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sho Time Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Vasquez pls Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Can someone post the Caulkin article from today? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Probably wants shot of him tbh, was easier having a spineless Ashley mouthpiece around to take the flak. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 If it is the case that he doesn't like that Rafa is powerful and is loved, which I agree with, it could have been so easy for him to be as equally popular, if not more, than any manager simply by running us properly. He's a warped fucker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rich Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Collina is terrifying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 That photo shows what calibre of a manager he is. Ashley should be fucking disgusted at not backing him, the fucking cunt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 That photo shows what calibre of a manager he is. Ashley should be f***ing disgusted at not backing him, the f***ing c***. The entire world of football should be talking about this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 The first two replies on that twitter feed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister_Glass Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Can someone post the Caulkin article from today? Newcastle must wake up to what it means to have Rafael Benitez as manager Mike Ashley risks making the Spaniard his next apology For as long as Rafa Benitez remains their manager, Newcastle United will improve. For as long Mike Ashley remains their owner, they will never be better in any meaningful sense, not if the definition of better includes vibrancy, hunger or straining for glory. This is the contradiction at the heart of a football club, the battleground of a testing, wearing summer, one which has left relationships brittle and ambition rationed. Benitez’s connection to Tyneside has become profound and emotional, the stirring provoked when he agreed to manage a flailing, failing institution now anchoring him to St James’ Park. What pushes him is a desire to reward those supporters who spend their Saturday afternoons repeating his name as if they still cannot comprehend that one of the most garlanded managers of his generation ever consented to be there. They must hope it is enough. If you ignored the heavy-handed spin of Ashley’s recent interview with Sky Sports, there was a moment which veered towards poignancy. Recalling the mistaken decisions which have peppered his decade at the club, he looked into the camera and spoke directly to Alan Shearer, one of his managerial cast-offs, and apologised. He did the same to Kevin Keegan, an “outstanding individual,” who “did his best for the football club”. Keegan was an aspirational, inspirational figure, both as a player and then a manager, instilling a sense of wonder and possibility into Tyneside. Shearer was the world-record signing who came home, rejecting Manchester United to become the club’s leading goalscorer. Keegan was all heart and feel, Shearer the clinical assassin. Few, if any, men have held more influence at the club in the modern era. After the first relegation of the Ashley era, Shearer never received a phone call telling him he was no longer required. Keegan had signings imposed upon him and left, later winning a case for constructive dismissal, in which Newcastle’s evidence was found to be “profoundly unsatisfactory”. The club’s insistence on doing things differently is occasionally interesting but has often felt like dysfunction and in both these cases it is unarguable. That dysfunction has not evaporated. The decision-making process which made the manager or head coach “just another employee and not the most important one,” to quote one of Ashley’s former executives, has not been re-written since Benitez’s arrival. If they understand that the Spaniard is a different calibre of manager to Steve McClaren, John Carver and Alan Pardew, they have not opened their eyes to what that means. Whatever happens between now and the transfer deadline, Benitez will not forget the club’s tardiness at the beginning of the window, when new players did not arrive and he challenged Ashley to “keep his word”. Nor that they refused to sanction the signings he wanted in January. It is not simply a matter of compiling a list and handing it over, but days and weeks of research and negotiations and effort. And, finally, it is about how much they trust him. On a day to day basis, Newcastle is run by Lee Charnley, the managing director. In Justin Barnes, an Ashley lieutenant who has been seeking investment in the club, there has been another layer of bureaucracy for Benitez to contend with, with Keith Bishop, PR to celebrities such as Alicia Douvall, the model, and Russell Grant, the astrologer, as well as to Newcastle, sandwiched in between. In no way can their model be described as normal. It was Ashley, though, who set strategy. His meetings with Benitez at the end of the last two seasons, when requirements were discussed and budgets agreed, were pivotal in persuading the manager to stay. If you have Benitez you must be prepared to be pushed, to listen and be advised. Why would you not want that or to keep him happy? Why not meet him after matches, make the odd call? And if you want to sell, then why not make Newcastle a going concern? Benitez’s expressions of concern have prompted tension, but from his perspective he is working for the fans, doing what he can to improve his team. And it needs improvement. The saddest thing of all would be if his instincts were wrong, that Newcastle do not have the potential that he initially thought. Because the poignant bit about Ashley’s interview was him recognising what he lost but not what he has. And nobody wants to watch him squirming through another apology. https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/sport/contradiction-that-is-rationing-newcastles-ambition-tdrtvvr23 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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