Disco Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 We've just got to hope that hiring him/keeping him in place signifies the wider realisation - Ashley's realisation - that the club needs to be run with professionalism, ambition and investment at all levels of its infrastructure. Assuming we don't f*** up we'll find out next summer. We've already got the Sissoko money waiting to spent you'd hope. Even without anything we've got close to securing medicrity due to the s**** league/managers within. How d'you work that out ? Because we were at around net ins/outs before we sold him unless you're referring to the typo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 We've just got to hope that hiring him/keeping him in place signifies the wider realisation - Ashley's realisation - that the club needs to be run with professionalism, ambition and investment at all levels of its infrastructure. Assuming we don't f*** up we'll find out next summer. We've already got the Sissoko money waiting to spent you'd hope. Even without anything we've got close to securing medicrity due to the s**** league/managers within. How d'you work that out ? Because we were at around net ins/outs before we sold him unless you're referring to the typo. I don't think it quite works that way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/football-league/newcastle-united-rafa-benitez-championship-fixtures-revolutionised-stye-football-a7385721.html And some more Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 This is where the Spaniard, in his shorts, his Newcastle waterproof jacket and his trusty cap, looks happiest. It is a love affair with tactical knowhow that goes back to when he was 14, and in his quest to beat his brothers and his friends at the board game Stratego went without sleep for a night in order to run through every potential move his opponent would make. “The basic principle was to toy with what my opponent expected me to do, to move the pieces in such a way that they would mistakenly assume certain characters in certain places,” he would say in his book, ‘Champions League Dreams’. “All of my work did not go to waste. My brother and my friends would never beat me again. That Stratego bit, pure love. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 How lucky are we to have him?! He's been here seven and a half months and the transformation around the 'cloob' and the City is absolutely staggering! Here's hoping this is his last job! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 Hope he stays here longer than he did at Liverpool, and he looks back and thinks his time here was his best, because that will mean it was his most successful Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willow Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 “In my parents’ house alone I had 1500 videos with three matches on each,” he added. “I used to analyse the details of every game.” I wonder if Carver did the same Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 Carver probably had one, and that was Animal Porn Lick Edition. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 another good read about rafa that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GavMcEl Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 I fall in love with the man more and more each and every day since he became or manager back in march ! And every few weeks I come on this thread just to let everyone know how much I love him he has rekindled my love of football and with this club again I honestly feel like a ten year old again, I get excited on match day, I let the outcome of the match effect my week/weekend/life.... This may very well end in tears as we have become a custom to here, or it might not ! Either way I'm gonna enjoy each and every moment of it while it lasts !!!! Thank you Rafa I love you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 The buzz around the club and the city is incredible. Counting down the days to the next match as soon as the previous one has finished. Absolute opposite of when Pardew/Carver/McClaren were here and I couldn't give a flying f*** about the game. Long may it continue Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 The buzz around the club and the city is incredible. Counting down the days to the next match as soon as the previous one has finished. Absolute opposite of when Pardew/Carver/McClaren were here and I couldn't give a flying f*** about the game. Long may it continue This is what our club is about once we get momentum and not one person outside of our club understands it. It's not about being the greatest club, it's about hope and the hope that we will give it a go in every match. Rafa wants to win every game even if only 1-0 and he plays the media perfectly. Yes this may be "lower league" but if he is allowed to continue controlling it and backed by the club we won't be in the Makems position of fighting for 17th. It will be hard for him to get us in the top 6 in Premier League with the teams there, but he will build us into a professional, balanced squad for the first time in a long time and hopefully put foundations in place to lift this club further. If not this season within 3 years we will get to a cup final. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 I firmly believe a Rafa managed Newcastle in the PL is capable of being in and around the top 7-8 provided he is backed in the transfer market. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
greydos Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 I firmly believe a Rafa managed Newcastle in the PL is capable of being in and around the top 7-8 provided he is backed in the transfer market. Pardew finished 5th once. I appreciate the PL now is a little stronger with all the top managers as compared with 5 years ago, but of course Rafa can get us top 8. If Ranieri can win the league last year with Leicester's squad, we can finish top 6 easily within 3 years. The question is can we finish top four? We'll be good enough in 3 years' time to be top 4, the problem will be that there'll be 7 teams good enough for top 4. Someone has to finish there and someone has to miss out. Why not us finishing there once or twice? Next year i'd expect top 14, year after top 8, year after to be one of the teams that's in the so-called top 7 league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelphish Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 Not asking for too much then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
greydos Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 I'm not asking for anything; that is what I expect will happen. Rafa's a world class manager: players will want to come play for him and he'll be effective in making us better than the sum of our parts. It's no different to SBR's reign in that respect and I can imagine a similar trajectory for the team.. What's unrealistic about what I said? Next season, Rafa's NUFC finish above 3 relegated PL teams, and crap like Pulis' West Brom, Yank's Swansea and Whoever's Watford (throw in Howe's Bournemouth for a 13th place finish). That's not a stretch in my book Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 I'm not asking for anything; that is what I expect will happen. Rafa's a world class manager: players will want to come play for him and he'll be effective in making us better than the sum of our parts. It's no different to SBR's reign in that respect and I can imagine a similar trajectory for the team.. What's unrealistic about what I said? Next season, Rafa's NUFC finish above 3 relegated PL teams, and crap like Pulis' West Brom, Yank's Swansea and Whoever's Watford (throw in Howe's Bournemouth for a 13th place finish). That's not a stretch in my book Yeah but if Leicester can win the league then surely Swansea can ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
greydos Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 I'm not asking for anything; that is what I expect will happen. Rafa's a world class manager: players will want to come play for him and he'll be effective in making us better than the sum of our parts. It's no different to SBR's reign in that respect and I can imagine a similar trajectory for the team.. What's unrealistic about what I said? Next season, Rafa's NUFC finish above 3 relegated PL teams, and crap like Pulis' West Brom, Yank's Swansea and Whoever's Watford (throw in Howe's Bournemouth for a 13th place finish). That's not a stretch in my book Yeah but if Leicester can win the league then surely Swansea can ? If they stay up Swansea will have more chance of winning the PL than Portsmouth next year - gotta be in it to win it! Ultimately this is a question of likelihood: what's more likely, a Benitez team finishes above the crap I mentioned or the crap manages to scrape together sufficient points to finish above us? Time will tell Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 I'm not asking for anything; that is what I expect will happen. Rafa's a world class manager: players will want to come play for him and he'll be effective in making us better than the sum of our parts. It's no different to SBR's reign in that respect and I can imagine a similar trajectory for the team.. What's unrealistic about what I said? Next season, Rafa's NUFC finish above 3 relegated PL teams, and crap like Pulis' West Brom, Yank's Swansea and Whoever's Watford (throw in Howe's Bournemouth for a 13th place finish). That's not a stretch in my book Yeah but if Leicester can win the league then surely Swansea can ? If they stay up Swansea will have more chance of winning the PL than Portsmouth next year - gotta be in it to win it! Ultimately this is a question of likelihood: what's more likely, a Benitez team finishes above the crap I mentioned or the crap manages to scrape together sufficient points to finish above us? Time will tell As likely say as Leicester winning the league last season ? That was your point after all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
greydos Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 I'm not asking for anything; that is what I expect will happen. Rafa's a world class manager: players will want to come play for him and he'll be effective in making us better than the sum of our parts. It's no different to SBR's reign in that respect and I can imagine a similar trajectory for the team.. What's unrealistic about what I said? Next season, Rafa's NUFC finish above 3 relegated PL teams, and crap like Pulis' West Brom, Yank's Swansea and Whoever's Watford (throw in Howe's Bournemouth for a 13th place finish). That's not a stretch in my book Yeah but if Leicester can win the league then surely Swansea can ? If they stay up Swansea will have more chance of winning the PL than Portsmouth next year - gotta be in it to win it! Ultimately this is a question of likelihood: what's more likely, a Benitez team finishes above the crap I mentioned or the crap manages to scrape together sufficient points to finish above us? Time will tell As likely say as Leicester winning the league last season ? That was your point after all. This is a bit dumb. Just because something is unlikely, doesn't mean it can't happen at all. More often than not more likely events occur. Why are we debating this; are you seriously saying you think top 14 next year is likely beyond us? When we do comfortably finish top 14 I won't remind you of this conversation Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 Not asking for too much then. Let's get out of this division first. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 FWIW I really do like the bloke. He's honest and he's made my club a club again, I couldn't see anyone else having the strength to do that. If he hadn't stayed last season could well have been my last regardless of relegation or staying up. I disagree with his tactics at times normally when he's too cautious IMO (at this level) but it's like when you get angry at the wife for watching This morning on ITV. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 I'm not asking for anything; that is what I expect will happen. Rafa's a world class manager: players will want to come play for him and he'll be effective in making us better than the sum of our parts. It's no different to SBR's reign in that respect and I can imagine a similar trajectory for the team.. What's unrealistic about what I said? Next season, Rafa's NUFC finish above 3 relegated PL teams, and crap like Pulis' West Brom, Yank's Swansea and Whoever's Watford (throw in Howe's Bournemouth for a 13th place finish). That's not a stretch in my book Yeah but if Leicester can win the league then surely Swansea can ? If they stay up Swansea will have more chance of winning the PL than Portsmouth next year - gotta be in it to win it! Ultimately this is a question of likelihood: what's more likely, a Benitez team finishes above the crap I mentioned or the crap manages to scrape together sufficient points to finish above us? Time will tell As likely say as Leicester winning the league last season ? That was your point after all. This is a bit dumb. Just because something is unlikely, doesn't mean it can't happen at all. More often than not more likely events occur. Why are we debating this; are you seriously saying you think top 14 next year is likely beyond us? When we do comfortably finish top 14 I won't remind you of this conversation It's not beyond us but the Leicseter example is getting overused. Could happen but right now it's a bit daft to even think of. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
greydos Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 I'm not asking for anything; that is what I expect will happen. Rafa's a world class manager: players will want to come play for him and he'll be effective in making us better than the sum of our parts. It's no different to SBR's reign in that respect and I can imagine a similar trajectory for the team.. What's unrealistic about what I said? Next season, Rafa's NUFC finish above 3 relegated PL teams, and crap like Pulis' West Brom, Yank's Swansea and Whoever's Watford (throw in Howe's Bournemouth for a 13th place finish). That's not a stretch in my book Yeah but if Leicester can win the league then surely Swansea can ? If they stay up Swansea will have more chance of winning the PL than Portsmouth next year - gotta be in it to win it! Ultimately this is a question of likelihood: what's more likely, a Benitez team finishes above the crap I mentioned or the crap manages to scrape together sufficient points to finish above us? Time will tell As likely say as Leicester winning the league last season ? That was your point after all. This is a bit dumb. Just because something is unlikely, doesn't mean it can't happen at all. More often than not more likely events occur. Why are we debating this; are you seriously saying you think top 14 next year is likely beyond us? When we do comfortably finish top 14 I won't remind you of this conversation It's not beyond us but the Leicseter example is getting overused. Could happen but right now it's a bit daft to even think of. The Leicester example? I didn't say we'd win the league, I said we'd finish 14th next year! My point wasn't so much Leicester as Ranieri; generally a good manager will make more of his team and resources than a poor one. This can gain places in the league because there are lots of dross managers. Ranieri gained a lot of places last year and now they're reverting to the mean. We'll (more consistently) gain places with Rafa in my view. Look people are saying we're odds on to beat Hull. In effect we're good enough to be 17th in PL as it stands. With another 3 transfer windows I'd back Rafa to have us 14th next season. I'm not saying I'd boo if he didn't. It's just what I think will happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 Unless something catastrophic happens we'll be finish top 14 in the Prem next year ffs. If we finish any lower than 12th I'd lob off one of my knees. Pwopa dalooshun Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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