KaKa Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 The talk tonight would have really been great for him too. Looked like the place was packed. Would have been nice for him to see the level of interest and appreciation of him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
louistoon Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 If he's happy then I'm happy. I genuinely think a lot of people underestimated the exponential rise in fees and it's caught us, as a club, out. We've had to readjust things but the signings of Manquillo and Merino point to him bringing in the players he's wanted, maybe not as first choice but definitely players he wants. Bring in another 2 or 3 that he's targeted and we'll be ok/comfortable this season. Next season we need to make inroads and push on to compete with clubs that we want to overhaul. Sounds like a good night though, very interesting. exactly as tempting as it is to blame the board for everything, we start spunking 15-25 million on average players and we can't buy all of the players we need for next season. Mistakes were definitely made at the start, but it's been like the sky has been falling in on here. Still a lot more work to do though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 What's Craig Hope going to write about now that Rafa has confirmed he's happy and 100% committed?! Same as Ryder, '10 things we have learned from Rafa's interview' article, followed by '10 things we have learnt from the 10 things we have learnt article'. Sounds like neither of you know who Craig Hope is, tbh. Rafa's quotes tonight pretty much prove he's been right every step of the way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 Craig Hope is a melt who produces nothing other than melt patter. Has done for years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danh1 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 Had an interesting conversation with Martin Hardy tonight as well who echoed what Craig Hope has been saying pretty much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 What's Craig Hope going to write about now that Rafa has confirmed he's happy and 100% committed?! Same as Ryder, '10 things we have learned from Rafa's interview' article, followed by '10 things we have learnt from the 10 things we have learnt article'. Sounds like neither of you know who Craig Hope is, tbh. Rafa's quotes tonight pretty much prove he's been right every step of the way. You're right, I don't. But for some reason I'd probably believe the words coming from Rafa's mouth tonight about his current situation at NUFC rather than Hope's article from 2 days ago which suggested a completely different mood at the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 What's Craig Hope going to write about now that Rafa has confirmed he's happy and 100% committed?! Same as Ryder, '10 things we have learned from Rafa's interview' article, followed by '10 things we have learnt from the 10 things we have learnt article'. Sounds like neither of you know who Craig Hope is, tbh. Rafa's quotes tonight pretty much prove he's been right every step of the way. I thought you said we would get relegated by october if we didnt buy 10 £20millon players Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 "The transfer window is too long, we wanted to do business early, we finished in May, I had my targets straight away" "We have to move players out, that means we're losing targets, we've lost our first targets, it's not easy" "You will not believe the commission, the wages, I cannot attract the players I want" "I wasn't happy at the start of this window, I'm happy NOW, you have to analyse things propley, we weren't doing things the way I wanted" Doesn't make the media stories untrue then. That's pretty much exactly what they were saying. Very positive stuff on the whole though. Rafa. I think the whole 'Rafa on the brink' stuff was hyperbole mind. He was unhappy clearly but I don't think he'd have walked unless it got to the end of August and nothing was happening. He seems very aware of how tough things are and how the market has changed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andymc1 Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 What's Craig Hope going to write about now that Rafa has confirmed he's happy and 100% committed?! Same as Ryder, '10 things we have learned from Rafa's interview' article, followed by '10 things we have learnt from the 10 things we have learnt article'. Sounds like neither of you know who Craig Hope is, tbh. Rafa's quotes tonight pretty much prove he's been right every step of the way. Agree with Ronaldo for once. Craig Hope is a Newcastle fan, he doesn't print shite in general and his articles RE:NUFC are normally quite accurate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 Rafa. I fucking love this man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 The frustration was right. Suggesting he was about to quit was not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 Most likely signals given out my Rafa's camp, playing games to get more of what he wants when frustrated with progress. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 And professional misery merchants like Craig Hope are more than happy to play along. Honestly, the only time he ever appears on the radar is when spreading gloom. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 then god bless him for his service Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 And professional misery merchants like Craig Hope are more than happy to play along. Honestly, the only time he ever appears on the radar is when spreading gloom. Just doing his job. Negative headlines get hits. Especially when there's not a lot happening. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 Nice insight to how he's thinking, I genuinely feel like he was frustrated and maybe still is but I don't get the feeling that comes close to equating to he's leaving at any stage this summer. Hopefully we can finish the summer off strong and look forward to the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 Listening and reading to Hope he's always come across as a fan to me and has correctly called Pardew, McClaren, Carr and Ashley out repeatedly and broken loads of news first. Like a lot he seems to want the best for the club and not mediocrity. What Rafa has said has matched the, admittedly sensationalist, headlines but if it forces action which is probably the point then it's win-win. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallace Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 It was really interesting tonight. Saw a really different personality to the one we see in interviews. Very smiley, very comfortable with his audience and very funny at times. And boy can he talk! You can see why people say he will talk football for hours with anyone. I felt though that he had his own agenda and there were specific points he wanted to get across so he didn't really answer Mick Lowes' questions. He'd start off and then drift off back to other subjects such as transfers and the importance of the fans supporting the players and that he could go to China for big money (mentioned more than once) - none of which had been subjects raised by Lowes. He was talking about formations and then asked who had been at the Bradford game and starting asking them about what formation, they thought they played last night and whether they were playing deep or advanced. There were a couple of times when he stepped down to walk through the fans to ask their opinions. He is also very aware of what fans are saying e.g. he said that fans thinking that we were saving our money for a £30m striker would be very disappointed. FWIW, I thought he said he was happier now rather than happy but I might have misheard but he was very positive and talked about how the team would improve over the next few seasons which gave the impression he was planning for the long term. I think his main message though (mentioned several times) was that it was really important to be united next season because it will be tough and the players will need our support and not be criticised if things are not going well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 It was really interesting tonight. Saw a really different personality to the one we see in interviews. Very smiley, very comfortable with his audience and very funny at times. And boy can he talk! You can see why people say he will talk football for hours with anyone. I felt though that he had his own agenda and there were specific points he wanted to get across so he didn't really answer Mick Lowes' questions. He'd start off and then drift off back to other subjects such as transfers and the importance of the fans supporting the players and that he could go to China for big money (mentioned more than once) - none of which had been subjects raised by Lowes. He was talking about formations and then asked who had been at the Bradford game and starting asking them about what formation, they thought they played last night and whether they were playing deep or advanced. There were a couple of times when he stepped down to walk through the fans to ask their opinions. He is also very aware of what fans are saying e.g. he said that fans thinking that we were saving our money for a £30m striker would be very disappointed. FWIW, I thought he said he was happier now rather than happy but I might have misheard but he was very positive and talked about how the team would improve over the next few seasons which gave the impression he was planning for the long term. I think his main message though (mentioned several times) was that it was really important to be united next season because it will be tough and the players will need our support and not be criticised if things are not going well. Recurring message from last season that is often falling on deaf ears. Hopefully the new singing section will help this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 I love him even more after that! His main message - stop getting on players backs during matches, you moaning bastards! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 I think those comments are aimed at people complaining about his tactics without saying it outright, tbh, which I agree with. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corrigan Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 Well he did have a joke saying it isn't his tactics that are always flawed it is the players attitude . I may have heard that wrong though . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 I think those comments are aimed at people complaining about his tactics without saying it outright, tbh, which I agree with. Don't think there's any hidden message tbh - he's been telling fans to get behind the team ever since he joined, and last season certainly didn't have a shortage of raucous groans. It's one of the reasons why we were average at home; players were nervous and Rafa wants to nip it in the bud. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 I think those comments are aimed at people complaining about his tactics without saying it outright, tbh, which I agree with. Don't think there's any hidden message tbh - he's been telling fans to get behind the team ever since he joined, and last season certainly didn't have a shortage of raucous groans. It's one of the reasons why we were average at home; players were nervous and Rafa wants to nip it in the bud. I dont remember the crowd being too bad last year to be honest, as patient as I remember the crowd for a long time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crumpy Gunt Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 Sounds like he knows we need a miracle to finish 17th. He's probably correct in his analysis. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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