SUPERTOON Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 The first step to Benitez going, how many times have we heard/seen the club dismiss one window saying it's planning for the next one. If Rafa stays on till the summer, he certainly won't put up with what's likely to come. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ankles Bennett Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 I reckon Palace decided it was pay back time because they believed we shafted them by agreeing to let them talk to Pardew and then on top of that we shafted them again by selling Townsend to them so they decided they wanted to screw us financially as revenge for their own errors of judgement. I reckon we have dodged a bullet judging by Townsends performances this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peder Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 The first step to Benitez going, how many times have we heard/seen the club dismiss one window saying it's planning for the next one. If Rafa stays on till the summer, he certainly won't put up with what's likely to come. This! Lets see the Keegan story all over again.... Fucking Mike.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Basically if we fail to go up- the window has been a monumental fuck up and will cost the club hugely again. not surprised tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heake Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 fuckin hell man, I`m always pissed off when we don't strengthen our squad but when you consider the squad, manager & infrastructure & current points total we currently have, we should be a shoe in for promotion really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Same old shit. Fully expect Rafa to be off in the summer regardless of the club's position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 fuckin hell man, I`m always pissed off when we don't strengthen our squad but when you consider the squad, manager & infrastructure & current points total we currently have, we should be a shoe in for promotion really. I have considered it, it looks mid championship+ JJ shelvey. the other Issue is prem clubs strengthening while we hope for promotion and dont- so the chasm to overcome to stay up if we get there just gets bigger. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peder Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Fair to say that Benitez no longer controls transfers and that Ashley is back and involved with key decision making Can only make for unrest Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sugoinufc Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 if we win promotion without having spend silly money on expensive average Joe´s, we will be in a very good position for the summer window! Enough average material in the squad already! Only worry is that Rafa wanted someone badly and was not backed. Do not believe that was the case. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Fair to say that Benitez no longer controls transfers and that Ashley is back and involved with key decision making Can only make for unrest not really Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sugoinufc Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 go back to discussing real problems like Brexit and Trump instead of seeing ghosts before they appear Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSC26 Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Fair to say that Benitez no longer controls transfers and that Ashley is back and involved with key decision making Can only make for unrest How's that? Sometimes transfers don't happen. Look when Keegan was in charge or Robson, we didnt always sign players we wanted. We clearly didnt want to sign players who were'nt good enough for the Premier League, hence targetting Townsend, McCarthy. It's difficult to sign players of that ilk when you're in the 2nd tier for a kick off. Another person who's crying about Benitez leaving when nobody knows what has actually happened, and Benitez is still there. Can't enjoy his reign at NUFC because so many fans are throwing their toys out the pram and speculating that he is leaving or unhappy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 When you've lost 7 games and your squad has glaring weaknesses you sign someone like, it's been clear throughout the season that any problems with us were going to be fixed by us bringing players in, not Benitez changing anything. I don't know why people are just accepting these arguments tbh, if we cannot get a 'prem player' in then get one of those disgusting 'average Championship players' (YUKKKK!) in for a few quid. There's not some mental conspiricy theory going on. #wait Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 fuckin hell man, I`m always p*ssed off when we don't strengthen our squad but when you consider the squad, manager & infrastructure & current points total we currently have, we should be a shoe in for promotion really. I have considered it, <b>it looks mid championship+ JJ shelvey</b>. the other Issue is prem clubs strengthening while we hope for promotion and dont- so the chasm to overcome to stay up if we get there just gets bigger. Fuck off man. no we were shit when shelvey was missing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 When you've lost 7 games and your squad has glaring weaknesses you sign someone like, it's been clear throuout the season that any problems with us were going to be fixed by us bringing players in, not Benitez changing anything. I don't know why people are just accepting these arguments tbh, if we cannot get a 'prem player' in then get one of those disgusting 'average Championship players' (YUKKKK!) in for a few quid. There's not some mental conspiricy theory going in. i totally agree, it appears the manager didn't want any though, he wanted players who were prem ready. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 When you've lost 7 games and your squad has glaring weaknesses you sign someone like, it's been clear throuout the season that any problems with us were going to be fixed by us bringing players in, not Benitez changing anything. I don't know why people are just accepting these arguments tbh, if we cannot get a 'prem player' in then get one of those disgusting 'average Championship players' (YUKKKK!) in for a few quid. There's not some mental conspiricy theory going in. i totally agree, it appears the manager didn't want any though, he wanted players who were prem ready. You honestly believe Rafa didn't want more boddies in midfield if we were willing to get then? Or do you not think any opinion he has is based on the restrictions he has placed on him by Ashley? He also said he only wanted Prem ready players in earlier in the window when he still young and nieve, he thought he was getting atleast 2 in back then. He'll put on a brave face but he repeated yesterday that he wanted at least 2 in and that it was all on the board whether he gets them or not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 fuckin hell man, I`m always p*ssed off when we don't strengthen our squad but when you consider the squad, manager & infrastructure & current points total we currently have, we should be a shoe in for promotion really. I have considered it, <b>it looks mid championship+ JJ shelvey</b>. the other Issue is prem clubs strengthening while we hope for promotion and dont- so the chasm to overcome to stay up if we get there just gets bigger. Fuck off man. no we were shit when shelvey was missing. If shit equals second place in the league then I'm glad we're shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy2Sheds Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 I think it's abundantly clear that he wanted a CM and a winger. I hope it doesn't bite us in the arse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 fuckin hell man, I`m always p*ssed off when we don't strengthen our squad but when you consider the squad, manager & infrastructure & current points total we currently have, we should be a shoe in for promotion really. I have considered it, <b>it looks mid championship+ JJ shelvey</b>. the other Issue is prem clubs strengthening while we hope for promotion and dont- so the chasm to overcome to stay up if we get there just gets bigger. Fuck off man. no we were shit when shelvey was missing. If shit equals second place in the league then I'm glad we're shit. come on, the momentum was moving away from the play offs when Shelvey was playing, and slipping back towards them without him. and you well know it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 Our form without shelvey wasn't exactly great. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 fuckin hell man, I`m always p*ssed off when we don't strengthen our squad but when you consider the squad, manager & infrastructure & current points total we currently have, we should be a shoe in for promotion really. I have considered it, <b>it looks mid championship+ JJ shelvey</b>. the other Issue is prem clubs strengthening while we hope for promotion and dont- so the chasm to overcome to stay up if we get there just gets bigger. Fuck off man. no we were shit when shelvey was missing. If shit equals second place in the league then I'm glad we're shit. come on, the momentum was moving away from the play offs when Shelvey was playing, and slipping back towards them without him. and you well know it. Nope. Stop going on as if every team below us are going to win all of their games, because they aren't. And neither are Brighton. There's a long way to go but we've got enough quality to finish at least second imo. Rafa's lack of a plan B is costing us more than Ashley's apparent tight fistedness this season, as much as I hate to say it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 When you've lost 7 games and your squad has glaring weaknesses you sign someone like, it's been clear throuout the season that any problems with us were going to be fixed by us bringing players in, not Benitez changing anything. I don't know why people are just accepting these arguments tbh, if we cannot get a 'prem player' in then get one of those disgusting 'average Championship players' (YUKKKK!) in for a few quid. There's not some mental conspiricy theory going in. i totally agree, it appears the manager didn't want any though, he wanted players who were prem ready. You honestly believe Rafa didn't want more boddies in midfield if we were willing to get then? Or do you not think any opinion he has is based on the restrictions he has placed on him by Ashley? He also said he only wanted Prem ready players in earlier in the window when he still young and nieve, he thought he was getting atleast 2 in back then. He'll put on a brave face but he repeated yesterday that he wanted at least 2 in and that it was all on the board whether he gets them or not. his crack from December sounds pretty categoric, whether that opinion changed or not i've no idea, and nor has anyone else tbh. I'd like to think he wasn't just being ashley's mouthpiece though, we've had enough of them. i think we should have brought more competent bodies in for sure, prem ready or not. Guess we'll see how this plays out over the next week or so, we just have to hope he doesn't feel (and hasn't been) stitched up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 fuckin hell man, I`m always p*ssed off when we don't strengthen our squad but when you consider the squad, manager & infrastructure & current points total we currently have, we should be a shoe in for promotion really. I have considered it, <b>it looks mid championship+ JJ shelvey</b>. the other Issue is prem clubs strengthening while we hope for promotion and dont- so the chasm to overcome to stay up if we get there just gets bigger. Fuck off man. no we were shit when shelvey was missing. If shit equals second place in the league then I'm glad we're shit. come on, the momentum was moving away from the play offs when Shelvey was playing, and slipping back towards them without him. and you well know it. Nope. Stop going on as if every team below us are going to win all of their games, because they aren't. And neither are Brighton. There's a long way to go but we've got enough quality to finish at least second imo. Rafa's lack of a plan B is costing us more than Ashley's apparent tight fistedness this season, as much as I hate to say it. I'd hate to say something so ludicrously stupid too tbf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 fuckin hell man, I`m always p*ssed off when we don't strengthen our squad but when you consider the squad, manager & infrastructure & current points total we currently have, we should be a shoe in for promotion really. I have considered it, <b>it looks mid championship+ JJ shelvey</b>. the other Issue is prem clubs strengthening while we hope for promotion and dont- so the chasm to overcome to stay up if we get there just gets bigger. Fuck off man. no we were shit when shelvey was missing. If shit equals second place in the league then I'm glad we're shit. come on, the momentum was moving away from the play offs when Shelvey was playing, and slipping back towards them without him. and you well know it. Nope. Stop going on as if every team below us are going to win all of their games, because they aren't. And neither are Brighton. There's a long way to go but we've got enough quality to finish at least second imo. Rafa's lack of a plan B is costing us more than Ashley's apparent tight fistedness this season, as much as I hate to say it. ok, we will have to see how it goes. We would have had a far better chance of promotion with a couple of additions. It looks to me like Ashley is sewing the seeds for a mediocre time if we do get promoted, curtail Rafas ambition while looking like they tried. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 fuckin hell man, I`m always p*ssed off when we don't strengthen our squad but when you consider the squad, manager & infrastructure & current points total we currently have, we should be a shoe in for promotion really. I have considered it, <b>it looks mid championship+ JJ shelvey</b>. the other Issue is prem clubs strengthening while we hope for promotion and dont- so the chasm to overcome to stay up if we get there just gets bigger. Fuck off man. no we were shit when shelvey was missing. If shit equals second place in the league then I'm glad we're shit. come on, the momentum was moving away from the play offs when Shelvey was playing, and slipping back towards them without him. and you well know it. Nope. Stop going on as if every team below us are going to win all of their games, because they aren't. And neither are Brighton. There's a long way to go but we've got enough quality to finish at least second imo. Rafa's lack of a plan B is costing us more than Ashley's apparent tight fistedness this season, as much as I hate to say it. ok, we will have to see how it goes. We would have had a far better chance of promotion with a couple of additions. It looks to me like Ashley is sewing the seeds for a mediocre time if we do get promoted, curtail Rafas ambition while looking like they tried. Based on what though? There's absolutely nothing to suggest he'll go either way in the summer, spunking shit loads or giving Rafa nothing to work with. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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