triggs Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Couldn't blame him today at all. Service was shite Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Should've scored. Didn't. Fly off the handle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Couldn't blame him today at all. Service was s**** I agree that he didn't get much quality ball but he was bullied out of it pretty easily with his back to goal. They'd played deep so he didn't have space behind so i would have expected him to move wide and pull some defenders with him. He didn't, he was quite predictable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Gayle plays like that in every match though imo. He doesn't really contribute beyond goals, but that's fine by me while it's working. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Even with his goal scoring record i really don't think he's premier league quality, always bottles it at tough games like today, its very easy to score at this division at a team like ours when we are battering shit sides. This post literally makes no sense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 I can't help but imagine how good this guy would be with a better midfield and number 10 behind him. It's outrageous that he has scored so many, when for the most part we haven't had consistent play to support him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 He's class, but when he's having an off day Rafa won't trust anyone else. Three minutes for Murphy ffs, why buy him? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 title needs something added. except against Blackburn Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 He's class, but when he's having an off day Rafa won't trust anyone else. Three minutes for Murphy ffs, why buy him? For that very purpose, he's a last resort/cup player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 He's class, but when he's having an off day Rafa won't trust anyone else. Three minutes for Murphy ffs, why buy him? For that very purpose, he's a last resort/cup player. Three minutes is laughable though. Was clear that Gayle was both starved of service and having an off day; Murphy should have been on for longer than that. I'm a Rafa supporter, massively, but having sat through Boxing Day and today, I'm very concerned that his reliance on certain players and this system is going to lose us points that we should in no way be dropping. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 He's class, but when he's having an off day Rafa won't trust anyone else. Three minutes for Murphy ffs, why buy him? For that very purpose, he's a last resort/cup player. Three minutes is laughable though. Was clear that Gayle was both starved of service and having an off day; Murphy should have been on for longer than that. I'm a Rafa supporter, massively, but having sat through Boxing Day and today, I'm very concerned that his reliance on certain players and this system is going to lose us points that we should in no way be dropping. Tbf, Gayle is that type of player. Murphy hasn't really got a lot going for him aside from being something a little bit different. Agree that he should have come on earlier. I can't agree with the bit in bold, his system has gotten us where we are, no harm in being flexible but I don't necessarily agree that he isn't, just maybe not to the extent that some want him to be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 I probably didn't word that all too well. The system has largely done us proud this season, but his failure to revert from it at certain moments has us worse off than we should be. Nowt wrong with sticking to your principles, but it's starting to cost us more and more often now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Couldn't blame him today at all. Service was shite The two half chances he had, he still got them on target as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 He's class, but when he's having an off day Rafa won't trust anyone else. Three minutes for Murphy ffs, why buy him? For that very purpose, he's a last resort/cup player. Three minutes is laughable though. Was clear that Gayle was both starved of service and having an off day; Murphy should have been on for longer than that. I'm a Rafa supporter, massively, but having sat through Boxing Day and today, I'm very concerned that his reliance on certain players and this system is going to lose us points that we should in no way be dropping. Tbf, Gayle is that type of player. Murphy hasn't really got a lot going for him aside from being something a little bit different. Agree that he should have come on earlier. I can't agree with the bit in bold, his system has gotten us where we are, no harm in being flexible but I don't necessarily agree that he isn't, just maybe not to the extent that some want him to be. I think it's understandable, when it doesn't work, for people to wish he had tried something that did. There is no guaranteed recipe for that something, though so there will probably always be disagreements. I watched today's game and for most of the first half tried to pass our way into the box, we did all right but BBurn were well organised and their keeper was in good form. Towards the end of the 1st half we appeared to have a bit more urgency and we managed to rattle their defence on a couple of occasions, resulting in clearances that were less composed and could have been capitalised on by another body in the box. 442 would have been perfectly safe in stopping any counter attacks, especially with 2 defensive CMs. In fact fuck that, take Colback off and move Diame into the centre. Christ though, we need to get a penetrative left winger or FB. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Also, that opportunity when Gayle shot from the right and the keeper tipped it away and round the post. Another forward would have been in the box long before Diame, (Who arrived too soon as a result of him realising we needed a body in there) and would have been in a great position to tap home. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Even with his goal scoring record i really don't think he's premier league quality, always bottles it at tough games like today, its very easy to score at this division at a team like ours when we are battering shit sides. He scored a hatrick against Norwich when they were our team to catch, scored away to Leeds, got a brace against Reading and was solely responsible for our away wins at Barnsley and Bristol City and he's a bottler in the tough games? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted January 2, 2017 Share Posted January 2, 2017 Definitely got enough quality to deserve a chance in the Prem (if we go up) next year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 Definitely got enough quality to deserve a chance in the Prem (if we go up) next year. I think he's absolutely immense at this level but given that we'd hypothetically play with one striker in the PL it'd be foolish not to buy someone of greater quality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 Definitely got enough quality to deserve a chance in the Prem (if we go up) next year. I think he's absolutely immense at this level but given that we'd hypothetically play with one striker in the PL it'd be foolish not to buy someone of greater quality. correct - gayle would have to push for his place when given a chance against a better quality upgrade you'd hope Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 Definitely got enough quality to deserve a chance in the Prem (if we go up) next year. I think he's absolutely immense at this level but given that we'd hypothetically play with one striker in the PL it'd be foolish not to buy someone of greater quality. correct - gayle would have to push for his place when given a chance against a better quality upgrade you'd hope Of course. Every player needs to perform to retain their place, and I think Gayle is the one player who has done that this season. You could say Shelvey too, but he has let us down big time. I reckon Gayle is good for 15-20 goals in the prem. We replace him with what a 25-30 striker and we gain 10 goals, provided the new striker hits the ground running. So we improve by 10 goals. Better to get a couple of midfielders who can get 8-12 goals, and vastly improve the service to Gayle, who could benefit with an extra 5. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 Out of interest, how many goals do people think we need to score, as a team, to succeed in the prem? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 Definitely got enough quality to deserve a chance in the Prem (if we go up) next year. I think he's absolutely immense at this level but given that we'd hypothetically play with one striker in the PL it'd be foolish not to buy someone of greater quality. correct - gayle would have to push for his place when given a chance against a better quality upgrade you'd hope Of course. Every player needs to perform to retain their place, and I think Gayle is the one player who has done that this season. You could say Shelvey too, but he has let us down big time. I reckon Gayle is good for 15-20 goals in the prem. We replace him with what a 25-30 striker and we gain 10 goals, provided the new striker hits the ground running. So we improve by 10 goals. Better to get a couple of midfielders who can get 8-12 goals, and vastly improve the service to Gayle, who could benefit with an extra 5. Why would we need to replace Gayle if you think he's good for 15-20 goals? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 Definitely got enough quality to deserve a chance in the Prem (if we go up) next year. I think he's absolutely immense at this level but given that we'd hypothetically play with one striker in the PL it'd be foolish not to buy someone of greater quality. correct - gayle would have to push for his place when given a chance against a better quality upgrade you'd hope Of course. Every player needs to perform to retain their place, and I think Gayle is the one player who has done that this season. You could say Shelvey too, but he has let us down big time. I reckon Gayle is good for 15-20 goals in the prem. We replace him with what a 25-30 striker and we gain 10 goals, provided the new striker hits the ground running. So we improve by 10 goals. Better to get a couple of midfielders who can get 8-12 goals, and vastly improve the service to Gayle, who could benefit with an extra 5. Why would we need to replace Gayle if you think he's good for 15-20 goals? fwiw i meant upgrade gayle and then he's got to prove himself to get back in the team gayle is a 15 goal striker at absolute best in the PL like, i.e. the season of his life Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted January 3, 2017 Share Posted January 3, 2017 Definitely got enough quality to deserve a chance in the Prem (if we go up) next year. I think he's absolutely immense at this level but given that we'd hypothetically play with one striker in the PL it'd be foolish not to buy someone of greater quality. correct - gayle would have to push for his place when given a chance against a better quality upgrade you'd hope Of course. Every player needs to perform to retain their place, and I think Gayle is the one player who has done that this season. You could say Shelvey too, but he has let us down big time. I reckon Gayle is good for 15-20 goals in the prem. We replace him with what a 25-30 striker and we gain 10 goals, provided the new striker hits the ground running. So we improve by 10 goals. Better to get a couple of midfielders who can get 8-12 goals, and vastly improve the service to Gayle, who could benefit with an extra 5. Why would we need to replace Gayle if you think he's good for 15-20 goals? fwiw i meant upgrade gayle and then he's got to prove himself to get back in the team gayle is a 15 goal striker at absolute best in the PL like, i.e. the season of his life Yeah I agree actually. Sorry, I hadn't read any of the conversation up to that post. Just ignore what I said Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Nominated for player of the month for December Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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