thomas Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Are we even linked with a replacement for Gayle? Did Perez ever 100% knock us back or was Deportivo just his preferred destination? Sounds like they can't afford what Arsenal want and before gayle is sold we should be in if we have a chance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altamullan Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 So is it probable Rafa is willing to sell Gayle to fund a better #10 then go with Joselu, Mitro and potentially a last minute loan up top? Makes sense to me tbh, don't think Gayle is going to cut it without a #10 anyways. I think it's more likely we'll use the money on a striker. Although either player, at the level to make a guaranteed impact, should cost way over £15m. We'll see but I'm not convinced. #10 is crucial to Rafa's system and we've got good support, some pace add goal threats out wide now. Main issue is Perez / Diame are not good enough and don't contribute. Add a 10 goal / 10 assist player into the #10 spot (I know) and loan a striker such as Origi and we'd be in far better shape than just replacing Gayle like for like imo. This. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 What's the chances our transfer finale is spent on wondering so much whether Gayle is going to leave that they somehow try to make fans thankful that he doesn't go on deadline day as opposed to focusing on whether we've actually bought anyone else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Get the feeling this is an time wasting excersise. Gayle will stay and only Kenedy will come in at 11:50pm This. Yeah basically. Just spent all summer very aware of how hard it is to get players to go, but now obviously Gayle who apparently just told Rafa he doesn't want to go, is going to jump at the opportunity to join Fulham because we might get a good offer? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Potential for this to go tits is huge. Feels like Ashley's revenge in the making tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stottie Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Well, if nothing else, thanks to Fulham we can now dismiss those posts on here that said Gayle was worth "10M" 15M is only the first bid.... Lots of options, but only 36 hours or whatever to get something done. Back to Arsenal for Perez? Origi on loan? Praet and Remy on loan as backup with Joselu first choice? You expect Gayle to get a full medical wherever he's going, so selling him first may only leave minutes to sign a replacement. The deals will have to be done at the same time. Still hoping for a keeper myself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Well, if nothing else, thanks to Fulham we can now dismiss those posts on here that said Gayle was worth "10M" 15M is only the first bid.... Lots of options, but only 36 hours or whatever to get something done. Back to Arsenal for Perez? Origi on loan? Praet and Remy on loan as backup with Joselu first choice? You expect Gayle to get a full medical wherever he's going, so selling him first may only leave minutes to sign a replacement. The deals will have to be done at the same time. Still hoping for a keeper myself. Must be easy for you to quote those posts, if they exist? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Rafa must have identified replacements already. No question about that. Just a matter of time and willingness. I do think he wants to sell Gayle, not the other way round. He won't want to sell Gayle, but he'd probably be prepared to swap him for someone better. Can't say I've heard too many names mentioned so far who have me convinced they are better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serb Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Two bad games at the start of the campaign is enogh for whole lot of ya'll to say he isn't Premier League calibre. The thing is, I think he's actually a very good striker when played in a striking partnership. Even as a lone gun he proved to be very efficient in the Championship - first couple of games in PL were definitely not assuring, but come on, give the lad a chance, eh? Inconsistency of "tactical geniuses" among fellow Newcastle supporters is stunning. Majority of the fans said that playing Mitro as a lone striker doesn't work because of his physical abilities, and now all of a sudden - Joselu scored a tap in, Mitro scored as a sub when we already destroyed West Ham's confidence - and the only thing working in Rafa's system is a big man up front. And the little guy who scored 23 is a definite surplus. Whoa. As much as I love Rafa, and I get the fact that he's working in difficult conditions where he has to sell in order to (hopefully) replace, I think that his stubbornness about team formation may cost us options we desperately need. P.S. This is all coming from a guy who thinks Mitrović should be above Gayle in the pecking order. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 No way should we sell now. NUFC won't have time to buy a replacement, it's too late and we can't complete more than 1 deal at a time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
piggelbet Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Two bad games at the start of the campaign is enogh for whole lot of ya'll to say he isn't Premier League calibre. The thing is, I think he's actually a very good striker when played in a striking partnership. Even as a lone gun he proved to be very efficient in the Championship - first couple of games in PL were definitely not assuring, but come on, give the lad a chance, eh? Inconsistency of "tactical geniuses" among fellow Newcastle supporters is stunning. Majority of the fans said that playing Mitro as a lone striker doesn't work because of his physical abilities, and now all of a sudden - Joselu scored a tap in, Mitro scored as a sub when we already destroyed West Ham's confidence - and the only thing working in Rafa's system is a big man up front. And the little guy who scored 23 is a definite surplus. Whoa. As much as I love Rafa, and I get the fact that he's working in difficult conditions where he has to sell in order to (hopefully) replace, I think that his stubbornness about team formation may cost us options we desperately need. P.S. This is all coming from a guy who thinks Mitrović should be above Gayle in the pecking order. This is all coming from a guy who thinks he's played two premier league games Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 No way should we sell now. NUFC won't have time to buy a replacement, it's too late and we can't complete more than 1 deal at a time. Says you. Come on Charnerz, let's see you shove that assessment right back down Stiflers pipes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasper Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 The fact that Fulham have apparently denied making any bids points towards this really being just a time wasting exercise from our part. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 The fact that Fulham have apparently denied making any bids points towards this really being just a time wasting exercise from our part. Have they? Where's that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasper Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 The fact that Fulham have apparently denied making any bids points towards this really being just a time wasting exercise from our part. Have they? Where's that? Sorry. That was incorrect. Should've said "sources at Fulham" http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11681/11012423/fulham-in-talks-with-newcastle-to-sign-striker-dwight-gayle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Two bad games at the start of the campaign is enogh for whole lot of ya'll to say he isn't Premier League calibre. The thing is, I think he's actually a very good striker when played in a striking partnership. Even as a lone gun he proved to be very efficient in the Championship - first couple of games in PL were definitely not assuring, but come on, give the lad a chance, eh? Inconsistency of "tactical geniuses" among fellow Newcastle supporters is stunning. Majority of the fans said that playing Mitro as a lone striker doesn't work because of his physical abilities, and now all of a sudden - Joselu scored a tap in, Mitro scored as a sub when we already destroyed West Ham's confidence - and the only thing working in Rafa's system is a big man up front. And the little guy who scored 23 is a definite surplus. Whoa. As much as I love Rafa, and I get the fact that he's working in difficult conditions where he has to sell in order to (hopefully) replace, I think that his stubbornness about team formation may cost us options we desperately need. P.S. This is all coming from a guy who thinks Mitrović should be above Gayle in the pecking order. I've never thought Gayle, in the system we play, would work in this league. Nowt do to with the first two games. I'm not even sure it would work in any system with the players we have at our disposal. So if Benitez wants to sell him and bring in someone better suited no problem. But obviously it has to be his decision. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Two bad games at the start of the campaign is enogh for whole lot of ya'll to say he isn't Premier League calibre. The thing is, I think he's actually a very good striker when played in a striking partnership. Even as a lone gun he proved to be very efficient in the Championship - first couple of games in PL were definitely not assuring, but come on, give the lad a chance, eh? Inconsistency of "tactical geniuses" among fellow Newcastle supporters is stunning. Majority of the fans said that playing Mitro as a lone striker doesn't work because of his physical abilities, and now all of a sudden - Joselu scored a tap in, Mitro scored as a sub when we already destroyed West Ham's confidence - and the only thing working in Rafa's system is a big man up front. And the little guy who scored 23 is a definite surplus. Whoa. As much as I love Rafa, and I get the fact that he's working in difficult conditions where he has to sell in order to (hopefully) replace, I think that his stubbornness about team formation may cost us options we desperately need. P.S. This is all coming from a guy who thinks Mitrović should be above Gayle in the pecking order. This is all coming from a guy who thinks he's played two premier league games To be fair those appearances come to a total of 30 full games in minutes on the pitch, and he scored 15 goals in those games, which is a excellent record. So he can certainly score in this league when given time on the pitch in the right setup. I just don't think he gives enough to the team to be our main striker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serb Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Two bad games at the start of the campaign is enogh for whole lot of ya'll to say he isn't Premier League calibre. The thing is, I think he's actually a very good striker when played in a striking partnership. Even as a lone gun he proved to be very efficient in the Championship - first couple of games in PL were definitely not assuring, but come on, give the lad a chance, eh? Inconsistency of "tactical geniuses" among fellow Newcastle supporters is stunning. Majority of the fans said that playing Mitro as a lone striker doesn't work because of his physical abilities, and now all of a sudden - Joselu scored a tap in, Mitro scored as a sub when we already destroyed West Ham's confidence - and the only thing working in Rafa's system is a big man up front. And the little guy who scored 23 is a definite surplus. Whoa. As much as I love Rafa, and I get the fact that he's working in difficult conditions where he has to sell in order to (hopefully) replace, I think that his stubbornness about team formation may cost us options we desperately need. P.S. This is all coming from a guy who thinks Mitrović should be above Gayle in the pecking order. This is all coming from a guy who thinks he's played two premier league games You must think you are very clever, even though you know exactly what my point was. Gayle clearly ain't a world beater, as those stats you posted say, but we won't bring in a world beater anyway. That being said, we definitely need more than one type of striker around. And giving up on one that we have, that scored 23 goals last year, is just a bad idea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 He's going nowhere. This is the story to cover up our lack of signings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mosstef Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Like the summer after finishing 5th: the most important thing in this transfer window was to keep our key players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 He's going nowhere. This is the story to cover up our lack of signings. Boom! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPL Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Two bad games at the start of the campaign is enogh for whole lot of ya'll to say he isn't Premier League calibre. The thing is, I think he's actually a very good striker when played in a striking partnership. Even as a lone gun he proved to be very efficient in the Championship - first couple of games in PL were definitely not assuring, but come on, give the lad a chance, eh? Inconsistency of "tactical geniuses" among fellow Newcastle supporters is stunning. Majority of the fans said that playing Mitro as a lone striker doesn't work because of his physical abilities, and now all of a sudden - Joselu scored a tap in, Mitro scored as a sub when we already destroyed West Ham's confidence - and the only thing working in Rafa's system is a big man up front. And the little guy who scored 23 is a definite surplus. Whoa. As much as I love Rafa, and I get the fact that he's working in difficult conditions where he has to sell in order to (hopefully) replace, I think that his stubbornness about team formation may cost us options we desperately need. P.S. This is all coming from a guy who thinks Mitrović should be above Gayle in the pecking order. I've never thought Gayle, in the system we play, would work in this league. Nowt do to with the first two games. I'm not even sure it would work in any system with the players we have at our disposal. So if Benitez wants to sell him and bring in someone better suited no problem. But obviously it has to be his decision. Agree with this, if he insists on playing one up front, Gayle wouldn't suit our formation at all. Maybe he's an inferior version of Owen, he will get you goals but will contribute little else. How many times did Owen play up front on his own? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Two bad games at the start of the campaign is enogh for whole lot of ya'll to say he isn't Premier League calibre. The thing is, I think he's actually a very good striker when played in a striking partnership. Even as a lone gun he proved to be very efficient in the Championship - first couple of games in PL were definitely not assuring, but come on, give the lad a chance, eh? Inconsistency of "tactical geniuses" among fellow Newcastle supporters is stunning. Majority of the fans said that playing Mitro as a lone striker doesn't work because of his physical abilities, and now all of a sudden - Joselu scored a tap in, Mitro scored as a sub when we already destroyed West Ham's confidence - and the only thing working in Rafa's system is a big man up front. And the little guy who scored 23 is a definite surplus. Whoa. As much as I love Rafa, and I get the fact that he's working in difficult conditions where he has to sell in order to (hopefully) replace, I think that his stubbornness about team formation may cost us options we desperately need. P.S. This is all coming from a guy who thinks Mitrović should be above Gayle in the pecking order. This is all coming from a guy who thinks he's played two premier league games He averages a goal every 180 minutes in the Premier League and I'm sure it was a goal every 90 minutes last season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Don't know how to feel about this. We got Perez, or Origi or Michy on loan then maybe, but I dunno. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Don't know how to feel about this. We got Perez, or Origi or Michy on loan then maybe, but I dunno. Just Feel suspicious, it's for the best Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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