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Guest reefatoon

I’ve never been a fan of him. He seemed to get off lightly because of the shit around him, but just like the rest of the midfield, he is a complete nothing player. It’s a position we desperately need to sort out in January, but that is going to be really difficult in our current position. 

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Guest reefatoon

That’s what happens when you cry wolf every game you soft rolling on the floor for nothing toss pot.

 

 

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I know he has had some bad games of late but I thought under Rafa he was a very solid defensive mid who gave a lot to the club. I really don't get the hate. He asked to leave wasn't allowed and still put in shifts, and then Bruce Bruced the whole squad. 

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Just now, Magpie said:

The fuck? Some of these comments are overly harsh 

 

Nah, there's no chance Hayden fits into our team when we can actually start buying players. He's probably our 5th best midfielder now, let alone when we actually sign good ones.

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Not being good enough for us when we are spending lots of money is no reason to be slagging him off. He is limited, but has done a good job. When Rafa had him and longstaff playing as a midfield 2 both players were well above bottom of the table level. Bruce's absence of proper training left them both less fit and much less effective. Does not deserve to be slagged off and I worry about how quick some of the fanbase have suddenly assumed since we are super rich now if a player is not mbappe they are game for being told they are wank. We have wank players. Hayden has been a long term decent servant of the club in very difficult circumstances. 

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6 minutes ago, Tiresias said:

Not being good enough for us when we are spending lots of money is no reason to be slagging him off. He is limited, but has done a good job. When Rafa had him and longstaff playing as a midfield 2 both players were well above bottom of the table level. Bruce's absence of proper training left them both less fit and much less effective. Does not deserve to be slagged off and I worry about how quick some of the fanbase have suddenly assumed since we are super rich now if a player is not mbappe they are game for being told they are wank. We have wank players. Hayden has been a long term decent servant of the club in very difficult circumstances. 

 

I'm not slagging him off am I?

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It wasn't just you and no yours was far from worst but I think he's earned respect for doing well by the club. 

 

I do rate him higher than Shelvey, Shelvely certainly can play better but mostly hasn't and has very often contributed absolutely nothing. Until slump more recently hayden could be relied upon to put in the hard yard.

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1 minute ago, jonny1403 said:

 

I'd have Hayden in the team every day of the week over Shelvey.

 

I wouldn't have either, I want them both replaced asap. However if we're stuck with the current squad there's no way on earth any manager plays Hayden over Shelvey, especially Howe.

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2 minutes ago, Tiresias said:

Shelvey is playing well right now, but so often he tails off quite quickly and I would rather have 10 men on the pitch than have him. 

 

It's not the right comparison though. Hayden can't retain the ball, he can't pick a pass etc. He might be able to break play up but that's about it (and he's not even that good at that). He'd probably be ok at somewhere like Norwich or West Brom I guess.

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