ponsaelius Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 Getting a 2-0 win over Barca with this side 32 Abbiati 05 Mexes 17 Zapata 04 Muntari 10 Boateng 18 Montolivo 20 Abate 21 Constant 23 Ambrosini 92 El Shaarawy (Traore - 88' Booked ) 11 Pazzini (Niang - 75' ) Substitutes 01 Amelia 02 De Sciglio 76 Yepes 12 Traore 36 Christante 19 Niang 22 Bojan Is practically miracle work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 Allegri was a great manager for Milan. His side that won the league in 2010/11 was excellent, and he continued getting big European performances in the following seasons despite the team being absolutely s**** by that point. Milan struggled because of the apathy at ownership level, not because of Allegri. I never felt that side was excellent at all. They won the league but did so because of two players who ran the show for them in Thiago and Zlatan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 He won the same number of league titles at Milan as Ancelotti did in half the time and with a plethora of clowns padding the squad. Great manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 Making Mandzukic a really effective left winger has to be up there in terms of coaching/managerial achievements on the actual tactical side of things I think he's awful. Every time I see him play he's poor. Not sure what people see in him and they obviously do as he's played for some top teams but then so did Aaron Winter. His decision making is poor. His heading is poor. His shooting is poor. Never been quick. He's now basically Juve's Gouf! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astroblack Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 Making Mandzukic a really effective left winger has to be up there in terms of coaching/managerial achievements on the actual tactical side of things I think he's awful. Every time I see him play he's poor. Not sure what people see in him and they obviously do as he's played for some top teams but then so did Aaron Winter. His decision making is poor. His heading is poor. His shooting is poor. Never been quick. He's now basically Juve's Gouf! Summed him up perfectly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 Mandzukic is not the most skillful player in the world but he's got astonishing workrate and attitude. His goal return has always been solid enough too. This left wing thing is a bit odd but at the moment it's working well for Juventus and given them balance as Alex Sandro functions as the attacking wide player really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 Mandzukic is not the most skillful player in the world but he's got astonishing workrate and attitude. His goal return has always been solid enough too. This left wing thing is a bit odd but at the moment it's working well for Juventus and given them balance as Alex Sandro functions as the attacking wide player really. So basically a version of Gouffran? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 Making Mandzukic a really effective left winger has to be up there in terms of coaching/managerial achievements on the actual tactical side of things I think he's awful. Every time I see him play he's poor. Not sure what people see in him and they obviously do as he's played for some top teams but then so did Aaron Winter. His decision making is poor. His heading is poor. His shooting is poor. Never been quick. He's now basically Juve's Gouf! Haven't seen them enough in the league to comment but he has done a brilliant defensive job in the CL recently IMO. He's just so much stronger than most players that play on the flanks and very disciplined as well I would've had a similar opinion to you about him as a striker though aye. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 Mandzukic is not the most skillful player in the world but he's got astonishing workrate and attitude. His goal return has always been solid enough too. This left wing thing is a bit odd but at the moment it's working well for Juventus and given them balance as Alex Sandro functions as the attacking wide player really. So basically a version of Gouffran? Errr no He'll be playing in the Champions League final for Juventus for a start. And banged in goals for Bayern Munich ffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaqen Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 Mandzukic poor heading? He's always been really strong in the air, his finishing from crosses with both his feet and head are what get him most of his goals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 Mandzukic poor heading? He's always been really strong in the air, his finishing from crosses with both his feet and head are what get him most of his goals. Aye that's a very strange analysis to say he's poor in the air. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 Alves is unreal like, he's effectively defined what it means to be a wing back. If he was either an out and out full back or an out and out winger, he'd still probably be the best player in the world in either position regardless. He's still astonishingly good, i get the feeling people take him for granted because he's not the force of nature from a stamina perspective that he used to be because well he's old. But he's still fantastic when it matters, been the best RB for the majority of his career and continues to be so IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John P Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 Watched the second half of the Ajax game earlier and it was brilliant, so open and entertaining. Ajax look to have some great young talent coming through. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted May 3, 2017 Share Posted May 3, 2017 Watched the second half of the Ajax game earlier and it was brilliant, so open and entertaining. Ajax look to have some great young talent coming through. the scottish fa really need to take a good look at the the dutch league and see where they are going wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 Allegri not a good manager, Felipao? Love Conte but Allegri has surpassed him in every way. Vile from Flip. Watch him come back and claim that he never said that he wasn't a good manager, even though I wasted far too much time wasting my time on him responding to his silly attempts at trying to shred Allegri's record. Dipstick. I'm going to be honest Juventus look excellent. Team looks so solid. Doesn't change the fact I thought he was absolute s*** for AC Milan, but credit where it's due. Also love the fact you decide to insult me for no reason. you just won't admit that you were wrong, won't you? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 Allegri was a great manager for Milan. His side that won the league in 2010/11 was excellent, and he continued getting big European performances in the following seasons despite the team being absolutely s**** by that point. Milan struggled because of the apathy at ownership level, not because of Allegri. I never felt that side was excellent at all. They won the league but did so because of two players who ran the show for them in Thiago and Zlatan. What sort of logic is this??? :lol: Okay, so that means that most managers out there that manage the bigger clubs are shit or overrated, then?! Get a grip, you couldn't see that he is clearly a good manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 Allegri not a good manager, Felipao? Love Conte but Allegri has surpassed him in every way. Vile from Flip. Watch him come back and claim that he never said that he wasn't a good manager, even though I wasted far too much time wasting my time on him responding to his silly attempts at trying to shred Allegri's record. Dipstick. I'm going to be honest Juventus look excellent. Team looks so solid. Doesn't change the fact I thought he was absolute s*** for AC Milan, but credit where it's due. Also love the fact you decide to insult me for no reason. you just won't admit that you were wrong, won't you? Like I said Juventus have been excellent when I've watched them this year and even last and Allegri definitely deserves credit for that. Really hope they win it. Still doesn't the change the fact that I was never impressed by the way his Milan team was set up, or played. Just look at their Champions League performances that year. Oh and if your reading comprehension is still as bad always despite english being your first language then yes, I admit I was wrong regarding Allegri. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 Allegri not a good manager, Felipao? Love Conte but Allegri has surpassed him in every way. Vile from Flip. Watch him come back and claim that he never said that he wasn't a good manager, even though I wasted far too much time wasting my time on him responding to his silly attempts at trying to shred Allegri's record. Dipstick. I'm going to be honest Juventus look excellent. Team looks so solid. Doesn't change the fact I thought he was absolute s*** for AC Milan, but credit where it's due. Also love the fact you decide to insult me for no reason. you just won't admit that you were wrong, won't you? Like I said Juventus have been excellent when I've watched them this year and even last and Allegri definitely deserves credit for that. Really hope they win it. Still doesn't the change the fact that I was never impressed by the way his Milan team was set up, or played. Just look at their Champions League performances that year. Oh and if your reading comprehension is still as bad always despite english being your first language then yes, I admit I was wrong regarding Allegri. Yeah...? And what the hell is that all about then, kid? Oh look, someone had a "bad" CL campaign...! Must be shit, then. If you're going to label a manager as "good" when they deliver results, and label a manager as "bad" when they don't deliver results, then you should be working as a television pundit, sunshine. (ie - people who offer fuck all INSIGHT! ) And no, English is not my first language. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 Allegri not a good manager, Felipao? Love Conte but Allegri has surpassed him in every way. Vile from Flip. Watch him come back and claim that he never said that he wasn't a good manager, even though I wasted far too much time wasting my time on him responding to his silly attempts at trying to shred Allegri's record. Dipstick. I'm going to be honest Juventus look excellent. Team looks so solid. Doesn't change the fact I thought he was absolute s*** for AC Milan, but credit where it's due. Also love the fact you decide to insult me for no reason. you just won't admit that you were wrong, won't you? Like I said Juventus have been excellent when I've watched them this year and even last and Allegri definitely deserves credit for that. Really hope they win it. Still doesn't the change the fact that I was never impressed by the way his Milan team was set up, or played. Just look at their Champions League performances that year. Oh and if your reading comprehension is still as bad always despite english being your first language then yes, I admit I was wrong regarding Allegri. Yeah...? And what the hell is that all about then, kid? Oh look, someone had a "bad" CL campaign...! Must be s***, then. If you're going to label a manager as "good" when they deliver results, and label a manager as "bad" when they don't deliver results, then you should be working as a television pundit, sunshine. (ie - people who offer f*** all INSIGHT! ) And no, English is not my first language. Must've mixed you up with someone else who once went all 'You're not from Newcastle' on me. As for the labelling part, that is exactly what I haven't done. I still wasn't a fan of Allegri when they went on to play Barcelona in the CL Final and he was doing well. Remember us having the same discussion. However, I'm giving credit where it's due as I have found them extremely solid this year and near impossible to break down. It's not a type of football that is appealing to me but that shouldn't take anything away from what they're achieving this year and I hope they win it all. Also, it's a bit funny, you first want to me to admit I was wrong, and then when I do you call me out for it. I'm not sure what the purpose of that is, but try having some manners. You're very primitive in the way you argue and respond. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 Allegri not a good manager, Felipao? Love Conte but Allegri has surpassed him in every way. Vile from Flip. Watch him come back and claim that he never said that he wasn't a good manager, even though I wasted far too much time wasting my time on him responding to his silly attempts at trying to shred Allegri's record. Dipstick. I'm going to be honest Juventus look excellent. Team looks so solid. Doesn't change the fact I thought he was absolute s*** for AC Milan, but credit where it's due. Also love the fact you decide to insult me for no reason. you just won't admit that you were wrong, won't you? Like I said Juventus have been excellent when I've watched them this year and even last and Allegri definitely deserves credit for that. Really hope they win it. Still doesn't the change the fact that I was never impressed by the way his Milan team was set up, or played. Just look at their Champions League performances that year. Oh and if your reading comprehension is still as bad always despite english being your first language then yes, I admit I was wrong regarding Allegri. Yeah...? And what the hell is that all about then, kid? Oh look, someone had a "bad" CL campaign...! Must be s***, then. If you're going to label a manager as "good" when they deliver results, and label a manager as "bad" when they don't deliver results, then you should be working as a television pundit, sunshine. (ie - people who offer f*** all INSIGHT! ) And no, English is not my first language. Must've mixed you up with someone else who once went all 'You're not from Newcastle' on me. As for the labelling part, that is exactly what I haven't done. I still wasn't a fan of Allegri when they went on to play Barcelona in the CL Final and he was doing well. Remember us having the same discussion. However, I'm giving credit where it's due as I have found them extremely solid this year and near impossible to break down. It's not a type of football that is appealing to me but that shouldn't take anything away from what they're achieving this year and I hope they win it all. Also, it's a bit funny, you first want to me to admit I was wrong, and then when I do you call me out for it. I'm not sure what the purpose of that is, but try having some manners. You're very primitive in the way you argue and respond. The reason I called you out was because you have this arrogant attitude towards some people that don't match your view, usually synonymous with younger football fans who think they know what they're talking about just because they can name the manager of Bastia or something. If you were a little bit less arrogant with the way you express your views, especially about this Allegri issue that we had, then I wouldn't have dragged you into this yesterday. You were annoying, you are wrong, so I called you out for it. Accept it, learn and move on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 name the manager of Bastia. Sorry but It's an opinion you've built on an argument we had on a manager we had different opinions on. I stated the reason as to why, if thats synonymous with young footballers and pundits so be it. I'm not a big fan of defensive managers which is also why I rate Pep as the best in the world despite Man City not having a great season. A certain type of football attracts me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 Pep! Someone who had the likes of Messi, Xavi, Iniesta, Robben, Lebwandoski, etc on his teamsheet. And yet you discredit Allegri because he had Zlatan and Thiago? You're also happy to put on one side City's season but not for Allegri when he was at Milan. Okay, dude. If you're basing your opinion on the type of football, then you're basically narrowing down your views. So silly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 Surprised Antonio Valencia isn't speaking English in this interview considering he's been here for 11 years Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 Get in. :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 Been a bit tripe this Vigo vs Man Utd game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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