Nobody Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 I'm genuinely amazed that anyone can think it's a penalty weird how this one seems to split opinions Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 All Lovren does is put his hands up as Calvert Lewin jumps into him. He doesn't shove him or bundle him over. They're both running, Calvert-Lewin steps across him/initiates contact/shields the ball/whatever you want to call it and Lovren continues running, knocking him over with a combination of his momentum, his body, and his hands. You can't just ignore him running into him. But he doesn't run into him. Calvert-Lewin runs into Lovren and then collapses on the floor as if shot by a sniper. Well agree to disagree, we obviously see it completely differently. We'll wait and see whether he gets done for diving. I don't think he'll got done but it's how a lot of players play for pens in the box these days, jump into the defender and then go down in a heat. It's become very common and needs to be stamped out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 Just to complete the spectrum of opinions I'm completely and utterly ambivalent towards the decision, can see why it would be given but wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't. Don't think it's too clear either way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 It's not even contentious outside of Klopp and this thread as far as I can tell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 Villareal looks threatening on the counter here like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 Just to complete the spectrum of opinions I'm completely and utterly ambivalent towards the decision, can see why it would be given but wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't. Don't think it's too clear either way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 Genuine question for KI, have you seen the reverse angle that clearly shows it is a dive? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 I'm pretty sure I've seen every angle now, yeah. My opinion hasn't changed and unless there's another angle I'm missing, it won't change. Soft, but clear penalty. EDIT: Got your PM, yeah I've seen that, still have the same opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 Messi absolutely loves that pass out to the left to Alba Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 Messi absolutely loves that pass out to the left to Alba Not even watching and I can see it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 Shaktar were leading 1-0 but managed to get three red cards in the last 10 minutes of the game and then conceded twice in added time to lose 2-1. I'd be livid as a fan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 How's Bernard doing for them Flip? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 Shaktar were leading 1-0 but managed to get three red cards in the last 10 minutes of the game and then conceded twice in added time to lose 2-1. I'd be livid as a fan. A penalty and an own goal in added time too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 How's Bernard doing for them Flip? No idea Don't watch the Ukranian league. Did score a beauty against City though. Shaktar were leading 1-0 but managed to get three red cards in the last 10 minutes of the game and then conceded twice in added time to lose 2-1. I'd be livid as a fan. A penalty and an own goal in added time too. I'd be so pissed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 Not even close to being a penalty for me. This. Touched him, so fucking what. It doesn't make him fall over in any area of life apart from for a penalty on a football pitch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 I didn't think it was a pen either BUT Lovren was stupid for putting his hands on him, it's asking for trouble Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 Similarly, Cologne, who have 3 points from 15 games and haven't won a game yet, were 3-0 up at home to Freiburg after half an hour. Ended up conceding two penalties in injury time to lose 4-3. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 Similarly, Cologne, who have 3 points from 15 games and haven't won a game yet, were 3-0 up at home to Freiburg after half an hour. Ended up conceding two penalties in injury time to lose 4-3. Manager has just joined Dortmund too, oddly enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 If there's one thing that pisses me off about football it's the desire to just collapse as soon as any sort of contact is made. The fuckers are appealing for a pen before they've even hit the deck. Any touch to any body part = theatrical collapse to the ground. Doesn't help when you've got pundits saying that "he had a right to go down" or "he's been clever" too. Contact =/= foul =/= collapse in a heap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 Similarly, Cologne, who have 3 points from 15 games and haven't won a game yet, were 3-0 up at home to Freiburg after half an hour. Ended up conceding two penalties in injury time to lose 4-3. Jesus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 The amount of time I fuck up after I have been fouled (but play on) at 5 a side makes me think I'd go down if I were a pro. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 St Etienne manager looks well up for a night on the razz, hip motherfucker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 7-1 One of the most obvious wins you'll ever see. Should have just replied "Iceland" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 It's not even contentious outside of Klopp and this thread as far as I can tell. Loads on reddit think it wasnt a pen. Can't link to it cause it has replays This one made me laugh Touch him on the back and he throws himself to the ground. Sky Commentators buying into it and ignoring the exaggeration cos Calvert-Lewin is English. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 Not even close to being a penalty for me. This. Touched him, so f***ing what. It doesn't make him fall over in any area of life apart from for a penalty on a football pitch. Spot on as usual. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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