STM Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 I think Lejuene is going to be excellent and that will help whoever plays with him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 Nah, he wasn't calamitous, he was just poor at pretty much everything. Bramble was calamitous, whilst being good at things he'd just kick fresh air randomly, or make a totally stupid decision every now and then. I think Bramble's good games far outweighed his poor games though. Wey I think he's the most calamitous defender I've seen at Newcastle like, so it goes without saying that I completely disagree. Disagree with the rest of it as well tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 That Liverpool game he was 100% calamitous, only worse performance I seen was by Cacapa vs Portsmouth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 Cacapa's another I felt a bit sorry for, more due to him having been a good player at one point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 The same could be said of Sulzeer. Neither should have troubled us with their horrible rotten bodies. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 Found Lejeune's comments from his press conference quite funny that when he heard Rafa Benitez wanted to speak to him he thought it was one of his mates playing a prank on him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willow Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 Found Lejeune's comments from his press conference quite funny that when he heard Rafa Benitez wanted to speak to him he thought it was one of his mates playing a prank on him That's why transfers have been slow, Rafa is calling loads of players and they're all "Rafa?! Aye whatever mate, I don't even think he's actually manager of nufc either, byyyyyye" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 Brambles very average games far outweighed his decent ones. His good games were very rare. That's absolute nonsense, like. And I don't just mean the typically strange way you've worded it - like very average at PL level and decent at PL level are hugely contrasting assessments. He was basically either good, or a blatant rick or two spoiled his performance. There was very little mediocrity to be found in an individual Bramble performance. Bobby was right to speculate and sign him because he had everything physically and technically, just not nearly enough between the ears nor the concentration span. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 Brambles very average games far outweighed his decent ones. His good games were very rare. That's absolute nonsense, like. And I don't just mean the typically strange way you've worded it - like very average at PL level and decent at PL level are hugely contrasting assessments. He was basically either good, or a blatant rick or two spoiled his performance. There was very little mediocrity to be found in an individual Bramble performance. Bobby was right to speculate and sign him because he had everything physically and technically, just not nearly enough between the ears nor the concentration span. A "typically" personal Ronaldo post, for no reason whatsoever. I've told you before, there's simply no need. Anyway, I won't be convinced Bramble was anything other than an average centre half, with a decent physique, who occasionally had good games and also occasionally had some awful games. I don't see that as a particularly controversial opinion. If only we had signed Southgate during that period. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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triggs Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 Brambles very average games far outweighed his decent ones. His good games were very rare. That's absolute nonsense, like. And I don't just mean the typically strange way you've worded it - like very average at PL level and decent at PL level are hugely contrasting assessments. He was basically either good, or a blatant rick or two spoiled his performance. There was very little mediocrity to be found in an individual Bramble performance. Bobby was right to speculate and sign him because he had everything physically and technically, just not nearly enough between the ears nor the concentration span. A "typically" personal Ronaldo post, for no reason whatsoever. I've told you before, there's simply no need. Anyway, I won't be convinced Bramble was anything other than an average centre half, with a decent physique, who occasionally had good games and also occasionally had some awful games. I don't see that as a particularly controversial opinion. If only we had signed Southgate during that period. Decent and average are basically the same thing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 Average = middle of the road, neither good nor bad. Decent= slightly better than average. How fucking tedious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altamullan Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 Agree with the tedious thing, but noticed recently that in the world of 'football-speak' decent seems to mean everything from:"Bless my eyes I've just seen the next Messi," to "Had an ok game, pulled his weight." Bit like our general use of 'canny', I guess. Contrast: 'He's a canny lad' (meaning great/would give you his last penny) to an answer to: 'How has this discussion of semantics been?' 'Canny, aye.' (Meaning: boring as f***. Sign someone, please!!!). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 How anyone can have a hard on for Bramble i'll never know. What use is a bit of muscle when you're as dense as he was. I wanted him to do well but he clearly didn't have thimbles worth of the composure and awareness needed to make the right decisions when it mattered. The fact he went to Wigan and Sunderland afterwards speaks volumes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 Brambles very average games far outweighed his decent ones. His good games were very rare. That's absolute nonsense, like. And I don't just mean the typically strange way you've worded it - like very average at PL level and decent at PL level are hugely contrasting assessments. He was basically either good, or a blatant rick or two spoiled his performance. There was very little mediocrity to be found in an individual Bramble performance. Bobby was right to speculate and sign him because he had everything physically and technically, just not nearly enough between the ears nor the concentration span. Pretty much all that needs to be said on Bramble really. Good enough to shut out top strikers on his day, dim enough to concede goals under barely any pressure on others. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 How anyone can have a hard on for Bramble i'll never know. What use is a bit of muscle when you're as dense as he was. I wanted him to do well but he clearly didn't have thimbles worth of the composure and awareness needed to make the right decisions when it mattered. The fact he went to Wigan and Sunderland afterwards speaks volumes. He had more than muscle. He was just error-prone. He could be the best and worst CB you'd ever see, I don't think it was down to being thick really. Maybe a lack of confidence/certainty in what he was doing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 FWIW I was always willing Bramble to make it here. He had the pace and muscle to dominate even really good forwards on his day, something that was a rarity for a Newcastle CB back then. In the end he was just too much of a risk with his clangers out of nowhere despite playing well for 85 mins of a game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 Bramble had all the attributes to be a very very good CB, but the space between his ears let him down. We still should have signed Distin ahead of him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 Brambles very average games far outweighed his decent ones. His good games were very rare. That's absolute nonsense, like. And I don't just mean the typically strange way you've worded it - like very average at PL level and decent at PL level are hugely contrasting assessments. He was basically either good, or a blatant rick or two spoiled his performance. There was very little mediocrity to be found in an individual Bramble performance. Bobby was right to speculate and sign him because he had everything physically and technically, just not nearly enough between the ears nor the concentration span. Pretty much all that needs to be said on Bramble really. Good enough to shut out top strikers on his day, dim enough to concede goals under barely any pressure on others. Precisely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 Never seen a better long range passer than Titus mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 Bramble was very good technically. He was a good tackler, quick, decent on the ball, he had all the qualities to be a really good defender except for his concentration. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 How anyone can have a hard on for Bramble i'll never know. What use is a bit of muscle when you're as dense as he was. I wanted him to do well but he clearly didn't have thimbles worth of the composure and awareness needed to make the right decisions when it mattered. The fact he went to Wigan and Sunderland afterwards speaks volumes. He had more than muscle. He was just error-prone. He could be the best and worst CB you'd ever see, I don't think it was down to being thick really. Maybe a lack of confidence/certainty in what he was doing. He was long, long, long way from the best CB i've ever seen. I mean, so far away it makes it embarrassing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 Alright, I didn't mean it literally. He was just capable of excellent play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 Bramble was very good technically. He was a good tackler, quick, decent on the ball, he had all the qualities to be a really good defender except for his concentration. So, he was good except knowing what to do and when. Wonder why the rest of the footballing world didn't batter down the 26 year old's door down when he was available on a free.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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