John P Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 Yeah, there's absolutely no way Lascelles needs to beef up, he's currently at a size where he is mobile but still able to physically dominate the majority of strikers in the league. I always think Lejeune has a strange shape, he has quite big hips but fairly small chest and shoulders. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 Worst criticism of all time throwing Lascelles in there, who handled himself perfectly fine versus Lukaku. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 Yeah, there's absolutely no way Lascelles needs to beef up, he's currently at a size where he is mobile but still able to physically dominate the majority of strikers in the league. I always think Lejeune has a strange shape, he has quite big hips but fairly small chest and shoulders. Good shape for child birth though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 Lascelles too small Blokes a fucking tank. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinitely Content Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 If anything Lejeune wants to lose a bit of weight and gain some speed. Lascelles must be one of most physically dominant centre backs in the league, it's almost his entire game FFS. The idea he needs to put on beef is ludicrous. He's perfect the way he is. Have you got him a Valentine's day card? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinport53 Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 Lukaku has always been obscenely strong, he looked about 18 when he played for the u12s. What a ridiculous criticism of Lejeune Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 I think with Lukaku he's not only got the size but he's a really good athlete, in the sense that he moves very well and isn't stiff, like a lot of bigger guys can be. He is therefore usually able to get really good leverage on other bigger guys because of this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 I think with Lukaku he's not only got the size but he's a really good athlete, in the sense that he moves very well and isn't stiff, like a lot of bigger guys can be. He is therefore usually able to get really good leverage on other bigger guys because of this. My main criticism of him would be he uses his athleticism well but not his size, basically he runs off the back of defenders and takes them into areas they don't want to be really well but i feel like he doesn't play with his back to goal very well. Because of that he doesn't really take advantage of smaller defenders as much as his frame suggests he should but has a lot of success against bigger defenders where his athleticism comes into play. Not many forwards these days do though so it's not like it's unique to him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mbemba Youre A Womble Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 I think with Lukaku he's not only got the size but he's a really good athlete, in the sense that he moves very well and isn't stiff, like a lot of bigger guys can be. He is therefore usually able to get really good leverage on other bigger guys because of this. My main criticism of him would be he uses his athleticism well but not his size, basically he runs off the back of defenders and takes them into areas they don't want to be really well but i feel like he doesn't play with his back to goal very well. Because of that he doesn't really take advantage of smaller defenders as much as his frame suggests he should but has a lot of success against bigger defenders where his athleticism comes into play. Not many forwards these days do though so it's not like it's unique to him. Manduzukic at Juve springs to mind. Moved out to the left since Higuain came along and has evolved himself into a winger-target-man hybrid. Should be interesting tonight to see how he plays. Spurs don't really have to face that sort of style too often, and lost to Burnley when they decided to load on all their big forwards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 Lascelles too small Blokes a fucking tank. Jamaal The Real Deal’s fucking fantastic. http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/07/26/15/369AF87F00000578-3708982-Darryl_starts_hurling_insults_at_his_rival-a-119_1469543568770.jpg I’M A TANK! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 Does Lascelles even lift? We need to blast our defenders with gamma rays. The results can be impressive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 That header for the goal is like he's just gone three steps up on a stepladder then jumped. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
greydos Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 As if improving your core strength makes you bigger. Fact is in many on the floor challenges our players are weak - go in for the tackle and come off second best so often. Our players are always getting “eased” off the ball. Lascelles times tackles well but very rarely does he out-strength a forward with his body before winning a header. It’s the core and leg strength for positioning much of our team lacks. Shielding the ball, which relies on leg and core strength, our team is weak. Watching Watford v Arsenal at the start of the season showed me how much stronger premier league players are in core strength compared with championship; watford’s Team has dtronger players than ours. And is it hell a criticism of Lascelles and lejeune, just an area they can improve. Same goes for Merino and Hayden. It’s a bit of strength in on the floor challenges that is making Diame seem a bit of a revelation in the last few weeks. Almost an old school strength all Midfielder’s used to have, which Viera, Keane, Petit, Ince etc used to have in spades. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 so odd Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alijmitchell Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 As if improving your core strength makes you bigger. Fact is in many on the floor challenges our players are weak - go in for the tackle and come off second best so often. Our players are always getting “eased” off the ball. Lascelles times tackles well but very rarely does he out-strength a forward with his body before winning a header. It’s the core and leg strength for positioning much of our team lacks. Shielding the ball, which relies on leg and core strength, our team is weak. Watching Watford v Arsenal at the start of the season showed me how much stronger premier league players are in core strength compared with championship; watford’s Team has dtronger players than ours. And is it hell a criticism of Lascelles and lejeune, just an area they can improve. Same goes for Merino and Hayden. It’s a bit of strength in on the floor challenges that is making Diame seem a bit of a revelation in the last few weeks. Almost an old school strength all Midfielder’s used to have, which Viera, Keane, Petit, Ince etc used to have in spades. I get that core strength isn’t being massive that’s a fair point, but how can you tell that our players are weak? All those players you mentioned played in a much less physically demanding league, and it might just be that players in general are much fitter? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 Should be our strength and conditioning coach. What an expert. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
greydos Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 Should be our strength and conditioning coach. What an expert. So childish. Fine all is well carry on nothing to see here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinport53 Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 Maybe if he could get Lejeune to grow another couple of inches he'd be stronger? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Begbie Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 As if improving your core strength makes you bigger. Fact is in many on the floor challenges our players are weak - go in for the tackle and come off second best so often. Our players are always getting “eased” off the ball. Lascelles times tackles well but very rarely does he out-strength a forward with his body before winning a header. It’s the core and leg strength for positioning much of our team lacks. Shielding the ball, which relies on leg and core strength, our team is weak. Watching Watford v Arsenal at the start of the season showed me how much stronger premier league players are in core strength compared with championship; watford’s Team has dtronger players than ours. And is it hell a criticism of Lascelles and lejeune, just an area they can improve. Same goes for Merino and Hayden. It’s a bit of strength in on the floor challenges that is making Diame seem a bit of a revelation in the last few weeks. Almost an old school strength all Midfielder’s used to have, which Viera, Keane, Petit, Ince etc used to have in spades. I get that core strength isn’t being massive that’s a fair point, but how can you tell that our players are weak? All those players you mentioned played in a much less physically demanding league, and it might just be that players in general are much fitter? I agree with greydos, our players to often get bullied. But im not sure if its strengt of the players or if its mental. I think the timing of greydos post was a litle bit off, because our players wasnt getting "eased" off the ball against Man Utd, but if you look at many of the other games this has happened to often. If you look at the Lukaku situation: I dont think it was Lejeune was the foul the ref spotted, I think it was the challenge before that. Lejuene looked like he was falling very easy, if he was pushed hard he needs to make the ref see it and make himself heard.. We had a simular goal against us earlier in the season when Mbemba was pushed over, and he didnt make any noise about it.. I also would like to see Lascelles and Lejeune bulling strikers more, they need to be smart and stretch the laws of the game as much as they can, but I feel they are just too nice lads sometimes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 Looks like Nick Foles. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 Just seen him get bullied off his trolley, unsure if he's a heavy user, in Ponteland Waitrose by an owld biddy. Sell immediately. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 Someone been using the editor? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinitely Content Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 Deserves better passing. He's better than most midfielders at playing those weighted balls forward. Hits his target very regularly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 Was Lejeune better than Lascelles though? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinitely Content Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 Was Lejeune better than Lascelles though? In the Man Utd game? Lascelles for me, he was on the end of everything, really impressive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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