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31 minutes ago, Paully said:

I remember that - we could have Carrick when he was leaving West Ham but Shepherd took the piss and off he went to Spurs!

Shepherd thought Carrick would demand the move to us and hold out for it, so deliberately low balled it, iirc. 

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1 minute ago, toon25 said:

Loverley stuff, that.

 

Fucking love it if Fat Frank took them down 

 

Even better is they still owe to Watford and spurs themselves with Ali. ?

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19 hours ago, leffe186 said:


I mean, sure, but it’s not like you had a choice between the two approaches. I genuinely don’t think you could have got a single one of those players…at this stage in proceedings. You’re just doing what any team in your position should be doing, just you have more flexibility and money than most have had.


Take, I dunno, Leicester seven years ago - signing relatively unknown quality players (Kante, Inler, Demarai Gray, Amartey) putting them with tried and trusted PL players (Huth, Nathan Dyer) and making the most of players already there (Chilwell, Wes Morgan, Danny Drinkwater, Riyad Mahrez). One difference is that your “relatively unknown” quality players and other transfers in are costing about three or four times as much as Leicester paid. And that’s OK, it’s where you’re at. It’s just a bit strange to be pleased about not doing something that you couldn’t do even if you wanted.

I take your point but at the same time the new owners could have took the Man City approach and spent millions on marque signings (money talks) and I'm not so sure we couldn't have attracted some of those players if we just flashed the cash therefore don't think we can really say they were out of our reach.... as far a I am aware we never tried for any of them so we'll never know.

 

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11 hours ago, Manxst said:

Shepherd thought Carrick would demand the move to us and hold out for it, so deliberately low balled it, iirc. 


Yep, that’s correct! 
 

I’m sure he went for something stupid too like £3m FFS!

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On 28/06/2022 at 11:45, TRon said:

 

The bloke holding the shirt with him bears an uncanny resemblence to Tessio from the Godfather.

 

"Mike....can you get me out of this one? For old times sake?"

if he and the Godfather met, I think it would end with Marlon Brando and the Godfather as two separate entities kissing his hand. [emoji38]

 

He's as nasty and cunning as they come, but no one can argue his results.

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1 minute ago, Optimistic Nut said:

Moyes apparently prefers Lingard to Danjuma. Reverting to type?

One did very well for them on loan to be fair and the other flopped at Bournemouth in the PL, plus the latter will cost a lot of money where as Lingard is on a free, sensible really. We should be all over that deal like, Danjuma I mean!

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1 minute ago, GeordieDazzler said:

Doesn’t Jlingz want £180k a week though? Who does he think West Ham are?!?? Everton?

He’s worth nowhere near that but you have to factor in he’s on a free and could well pay for himself wages wise if he has similar form to what he showed preiviously while on loan there. I think Moyes’ style of play suits him, he likes a box to box type free runner type player.

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He’ll end up on about £100-120k. I know what you’re saying about they could afford £180k a week as they’re paying no fee but you’d soon get the likes of Bowen, Benrahma asking for pay rises. I doubt even Rice is on half of that either.

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7 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said:

He’ll end up on about £100-120k. I know what you’re saying about they could afford £180k a week as they’re paying no fee but you’d soon get the likes of Bowen, Benrahma asking for pay rises. I doubt even Rice is on half of that either.

West Ham offered Rice £200kpw on an 8 year contract, which he turned down. The money is obviously there if they decide a player or two are worth it. Lingard has been asking for £200kpw, so maybe the figures are related. 
 

edit: Bowen is allegedly on £93kpw, and Benrahma is on £23kpw. Rice is apparently currently on £3kpw…..

 

 

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It’s a dangerous situation for the clubs that because if the player doesn’t meet expectations it makes them impossible to move on. Juve with Ramsey etc

 

Everyone thought it was smart business at the time but quickly became an albatross contract.

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19 minutes ago, Manxst said:

West Ham offered Rice £200kpw on an 8 year contract, which he turned down. The money is obviously there if they decide a player or two are worth it. Lingard has been asking for £200kpw, so maybe the figures are related. 
 

edit: Bowen is allegedly on £93kpw, and Benrahma is on £23kpw. Rice is apparently currently on £3kpw…..

 

 

 

Rice is on £3 k a week ? 

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41 minutes ago, Ben said:

Rice is on £3 k a week ? 

Yeah. He signed a 5 year/£780,000 contract (£156k per year) in 2018 when he was 19, and he was barely a squad player. He’s 23 now and has two years left to run (with a further years option by West Ham, I think?)

 

 

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