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5 minutes ago, Interpolic said:

That Tyler Adams will hardly play for Chelsea. Wish something could be done about clubs piling up players just to recycle for FPP purposes. Another way it's rigged for the rich clubs to keep getting richer. 


Why not? Decent player and who else do they got apart from Enzo in central midfield that is 100% sure to start?

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7 minutes ago, Interpolic said:

That Tyler Adams will hardly play for Chelsea. Wish something could be done about clubs piling up players just to recycle for FPP purposes. Another way it's rigged for the rich clubs to keep getting richer. 

There should be a maximum squad size so a one in one out basis. Also no loans but that’s a different and bigger debate.

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1 minute ago, LFEE said:

There should be a maximum squad size so a one in one out basis. Also no loans but that’s a different and bigger debate.

Max squad size of say 28 senior players and you can loan as many as you want?

Max of maybe 5 U21 players allowed on loan. 
The buying up of young potential that then get shuttled around by big clubs who’ve no intention of ever actually involving them in their own 1st team is terrible for football. 
Most young  players develop better if they’re actually owned by the team they’re playing for imo.

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1 minute ago, Lotus said:

Max squad size of say 28 senior players and you can loan as many as you want?

Max of maybe 5 U21 players allowed on loan. 
The buying up of young potential that then get shuttled around by big clubs who’ve no intention of ever actually involving them in their own 1st team is terrible for football. 
Most young  players develop better if they’re actually owned by the team they’re playing for imo.

I’m personally against all loans full stop. Would strengthen the pyramid system is why in short and make the playing field more even. Like I say that’s a bigger debate for another day ?

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17 minutes ago, Interpolic said:

That Tyler Adams will hardly play for Chelsea. Wish something could be done about clubs piling up players just to recycle for FPP purposes. Another way it's rigged for the rich clubs to keep getting richer. 

 

Despise Chelsea with a passion, have done for many years but just in recent times, even more so. Constantly trying to find loopholes, manipulate the various systems in place, circumvent rules and just generally be arseholes. That they didn't go to the fucking wall after Abramovich made me so sad.

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Can't really blame Adams too much. Gets out of a Championship club, moves to a "big" club in London on good wedge, while playing only occasionally and living a very relaxed lifestyle no doubt. Chelsea won't ever mean much to him though, which I think is their biggest long-term issue, players just won't generally give a fuck or play with heart. They're just a soulless pit.

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2 minutes ago, vexred said:

West Ham turning down £88 mil for Paqueta is crazy. 

Its a bit like Brighton. They just sold for loads and dont need the money at all. But then you have a problem with an unhappy player etc

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24 minutes ago, LionOfGosforth said:

Can't really blame Adams too much. Gets out of a Championship club, moves to a "big" club in London on good wedge, while playing only occasionally and living a very relaxed lifestyle no doubt. Chelsea won't ever mean much to him though, which I think is their biggest long-term issue, players just won't generally give a fuck or play with heart. They're just a soulless pit.

 

What i really don't understand is that Tyler Adams is an absolute competitor. Wants to play every single game, he's massive leader in the national side too. We at the US national team level are always at our best when he's sat in front of our back 4. But maybe he's an ideal partner for Enzo? He would do the dirty work and is technically pretty good. 

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32 minutes ago, LionOfGosforth said:

Can't really blame Adams too much. Gets out of a Championship club, moves to a "big" club in London on good wedge, while playing only occasionally and living a very relaxed lifestyle no doubt. Chelsea won't ever mean much to him though, which I think is their biggest long-term issue, players just won't generally give a fuck or play with heart. They're just a soulless pit.

 

Wait till he gets there on day one, and they show him the way to the 'midfielders room', open the door and it's like the fucking Last Night of the Proms, there's so many of them there.

 

 

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4 minutes ago, Kanji said:

 

What i really don't understand is that Tyler Adams is an absolute competitor. Wants to play every single game, he's massive leader in the national side too. We at the US national team level are always at our best when he's sat in front of our back 4. But maybe he's an ideal partner for Enzo? He would do the dirty work and is technically pretty good. 

 

Yeah, I like him quite a bit as a player and he is a fiery competitive type, perfect for a certain type of club and certain type of midfield. I don't personally think Chelsea is that club, would be surprising if he was a regular, and that seems to go against his personality and traits altogether. Strange club to choose in some ways but maybe there hasn't been much interest up to now and moving to them will have it's perks, even if they're the most loathsome club on the planet.

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1 minute ago, brummie said:

 

Wait till he gets there on day one, and they show him the way to the 'midfielders room', open the door and it's like the fucking Last Night of the Proms, there's so many of them there.

 

 

 

 

This one of the mysteries, why players choose certain clubs. I get the percentage of appeal to live in the capital on good money but you just know, unless you're elite, you're going to play sporadically. It's a curious thing, would be good to get player's honest feedback on why they go to these clubs beyond money and prestige, or if it's just that. Wishful thinking probably :lol:

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I don't think it is possible to overstate the appeal of living in London whilst being a 25 year old multi millionaire, though.

 

I mean, you can have a very good life as a very rich young man in any city in this country, but London is one of 4 or 5 global megacities that are on a different level.

 

I am impressed none of them die young, though. That much money, in London for me when i was 25 and I'd have been toes-up through excess by 30.

 

 

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1 minute ago, brummie said:

I don't think it is possible to overstate the appeal of living in London whilst being a 25 year old multi millionaire, though.

 

I mean, you can have a very good life as a very rich young man in any city in this country, but London is one of 4 or 5 global megacities that are on a different level.

 

I am impressed none of them die young, though. That much money, in London for me when i was 25 and I'd have been toes-up through excess by 30.

 

 

 

 

Aye, fair. I just wish one of these days, a young player Chelsea are pursuing in some relentless and repugnant manner, turns them down and says something honest like "I'd never want to play for a club where I won't get the playing time. I want to develop and make something of my career in the playing sense, and I am not just motivated by financial gain". He'd be my fucking hero, but will never happen.

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4 minutes ago, brummie said:

I don't think it is possible to overstate the appeal of living in London whilst being a 25 year old multi millionaire, though.

 

I mean, you can have a very good life as a very rich young man in any city in this country, but London is one of 4 or 5 global megacities that are on a different level.

 

I am impressed none of them die young, though. That much money, in London for me when i was 25 and I'd have been toes-up through excess by 30.

 

 

 

 

It's true, players would choose to sign for Brentford for less money than come up to Newcastle, so I've heard.

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2 hours ago, leffe186 said:

 

 

 


And here’s the thing. It’s understandable that people say this stuff. It’s just…it sounds a bit hollow coming from you guys after Shearer turned down Man U to go to Newcastle.


I think it’s great he did. I love when players stay with teams their whole career, or choose their boyhood club over trophies or money or whatever. Doesn’t happen often enough. Just feels a bit rich to hear people complain about the top teams creaming off the best players and then complain that Kane/Shearer/Totti/whoever doesn’t have ambition.

Shearer turned Man United down for a team that had just nearly won the league. Without that (and Keegan) there's no way he would have come to us.

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