Bimpy474 Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 I'm not too sure the 11 was that bad, but our football was fecking dreadful, if you are to criticise Rafa that's where it can be aimed, the football is horrid at times. Yet we will play well on other days and that is down to cheaper players being inconsistent, bit of both imo. Sure as shit though, if you give Rafa proper funds he'd buy better players and the football is then better and more consistent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crumpy Gunt Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 He has to take some of the blame for tonight like. I still love him but he will get it wrong occasionally 3 out of 4 this season isn't 'occasionally' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 Did Rafa tell Kenedy and Atsu to play really badly? Rafa makes mistakes like everyone does but hardly anyone in the team played well. Is Rafa not getting the players fired up enough? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 We’d have been better off keeping Mbemba, Merino and Mitrovic than making a few of the signings we’ve made like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crumpy Gunt Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 He’s getting frustrated....think we all are. He's not helping himself playing centre backs at left back with Sterry on the other side. Good luck trying to play football with them bringing the ball out. We've got some fucking horrendous footballers in those positions. Who the fuck else was he supposed to play at full-back? Yedlin and Dummett absolutely cannot be risked, as evidenced by the backup brigade on show tonight (and at Cardiff). Aye, I suppose we need to keep them fresh so we can wheel them out for the hammering against City on Saturday. I think I'd rather have won today tbh. Resting players for a game we are gonna get beat in anyway and for the big relegation battle and we aren't even out of August. No aim other than to exist in the pl and then we get 11 years of wank and knocked out on purpose runt he cups. That's rafas hat trick now oxford and forest twice. Shite Remember the slaughtering Pardew and the rest of the shite used to get? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 He’s getting frustrated....think we all are. He's not helping himself playing centre backs at left back with Sterry on the other side. Good luck trying to play football with them bringing the ball out. We've got some fucking horrendous footballers in those positions. Who the fuck else was he supposed to play at full-back? Yedlin and Dummett absolutely cannot be risked, as evidenced by the backup brigade on show tonight (and at Cardiff). Aye, I suppose we need to keep them fresh so we can wheel them out for the hammering against City on Saturday. I think I'd rather have won today tbh. Resting players for a game we are gonna get beat in anyway and for the big relegation battle and we aren't even out of August. No aim other than to exist in the pl and then we get 11 years of wank and knocked out on purpose runt he cups. That's rafas hat trick now oxford and forest twice. Shite Remember the slaughtering Pardew and the rest of the shite used to get? Not from you though. Weird. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubestationatmidnight Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 He has to take some of the blame for tonight like. I still love him but he will get it wrong occasionally 3 out of 4 this season isn't 'occasionally' Neither is 3 times out of 3 seasons in the cups. Oxford and forest x2. Soon as I heard him talking rubbish last week about having to play a weakened team in the cup and as soon as I seen that team tonight it was obvious we were going out again and weren't they fussed How many seasons do we have to field sub standard players and teams in the cups and surrender Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 I'm not too sure the 11 was that bad, but our football was fecking dreadful, if you are to criticise Rafa that's where it can be aimed, the football is horrid at times. Yet we will play well on other days and that is down to cheaper players being inconsistent, bit of both imo. Sure as shit though, if you give Rafa proper funds he'd buy better players and the football is then better and more consistent. Said it already in the match thread, but that 11 was bad. I don't think Forest would have been looking to buy too many of that starting line up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crumpy Gunt Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 Did Rafa tell Kenedy and Atsu to play really badly? Rafa makes mistakes like everyone does but hardly anyone in the team played well. Is Rafa not getting the players fired up enough? Can see the fact he's only here for months being a problem as the season goes on if we are at the shit end of the league. Like players, managers shouldn't be allowed into their final year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 I'm not too sure the 11 was that bad, but our football was fecking dreadful, if you are to criticise Rafa that's where it can be aimed, the football is horrid at times. Yet we will play well on other days and that is down to cheaper players being inconsistent, bit of both imo. Sure as shit though, if you give Rafa proper funds he'd buy better players and the football is then better and more consistent. Said it already in the match thread, but that 11 was bad. I don't think Forest would have been looking to buy too many of that starting line up. I get that tbf, i just think the 11 should have played better football, just shit all round. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 He’s getting frustrated....think we all are. He's not helping himself playing centre backs at left back with Sterry on the other side. Good luck trying to play football with them bringing the ball out. We've got some fucking horrendous footballers in those positions. Who the fuck else was he supposed to play at full-back? Yedlin and Dummett absolutely cannot be risked, as evidenced by the backup brigade on show tonight (and at Cardiff). Aye, I suppose we need to keep them fresh so we can wheel them out for the hammering against City on Saturday. I think I'd rather have won today tbh. Resting players for a game we are gonna get beat in anyway and for the big relegation battle and we aren't even out of August. No aim other than to exist in the pl and then we get 11 years of wank and knocked out on purpose runt he cups. That's rafas hat trick now oxford and forest twice. Shite Remember the slaughtering Pardew and the rest of the shite used to get? Genuine question, do you think it is best for the club to get Rafa Out or get Ashley Out if you had to choose. Because if you say Ashley you are undermining your own point of view by focusing your ire on Rafa. Getting Ashley out needs to be the utmost priority. We can worry about Rafa if still underperforming under new ownership (in the unlikely event that we even get that far) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubestationatmidnight Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 He’s getting frustrated....think we all are. He's not helping himself playing centre backs at left back with Sterry on the other side. Good luck trying to play football with them bringing the ball out. We've got some fucking horrendous footballers in those positions. Who the fuck else was he supposed to play at full-back? Yedlin and Dummett absolutely cannot be risked, as evidenced by the backup brigade on show tonight (and at Cardiff). Aye, I suppose we need to keep them fresh so we can wheel them out for the hammering against City on Saturday. I think I'd rather have won today tbh. Resting players for a game we are gonna get beat in anyway and for the big relegation battle and we aren't even out of August. No aim other than to exist in the pl and then we get 11 years of wank and knocked out on purpose runt he cups. That's rafas hat trick now oxford and forest twice. Shite Remember the slaughtering Pardew and the rest of the shite used to get? I do and rightly so. Rafa has to take the same as it's no different. No excuses for it. Last season was bad enough but to go back to the same venue and same round and for it to happen again. Not good enough that Rafa. Anything beyond our best 11 and our squad is that poor we will obviously struggle. Scary how people were looking forward to seeing sterry and longstaff. How much longer do we have to throw cup games to find out our young players aren't pl standard!? They will be at Blackpool and Gateshead soon whilst our next few academy players get us knocked out the fa cup 3rd round 2020 at Lincoln Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 Going by his posts he wants Rafa and Ashley out, not fussed in what order either it seems. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 I'm not too sure the 11 was that bad, but our football was fecking dreadful, if you are to criticise Rafa that's where it can be aimed, the football is horrid at times. Yet we will play well on other days and that is down to cheaper players being inconsistent, bit of both imo. Sure as shit though, if you give Rafa proper funds he'd buy better players and the football is then better and more consistent. Said it already in the match thread, but that 11 was bad. I don't think Forest would have been looking to buy too many of that starting line up. I get that tbf, i just think the 11 should have played better football, just shit all round. The football we've played has been horrendous in every match bar the opener. I was looking forward to playing Cardiff and Forest because I thought it would be our level and we might express ourselves a bit more. But no, we've looked like a team Tony Pulis would be proud to put out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubestationatmidnight Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 He’s getting frustrated....think we all are. He's not helping himself playing centre backs at left back with Sterry on the other side. Good luck trying to play football with them bringing the ball out. We've got some fucking horrendous footballers in those positions. Who the fuck else was he supposed to play at full-back? Yedlin and Dummett absolutely cannot be risked, as evidenced by the backup brigade on show tonight (and at Cardiff). Aye, I suppose we need to keep them fresh so we can wheel them out for the hammering against City on Saturday. I think I'd rather have won today tbh. Resting players for a game we are gonna get beat in anyway and for the big relegation battle and we aren't even out of August. No aim other than to exist in the pl and then we get 11 years of wank and knocked out on purpose runt he cups. That's rafas hat trick now oxford and forest twice. Shite Remember the slaughtering Pardew and the rest of the shite used to get? Genuine question, do you think it is best for the club to get Rafa Out or get Ashley Out if you had to choose. Because if you say Ashley you are undermining your own point of view by focusing your ire on Rafa. Getting Ashley out needs to be the utmost priority. We can worry about Rafa if still underperforming under new ownership (in the unlikely event that we even get that far) Ashley by a million miles. I like Rafa and would love him to stay and be the one to bring success with a normal owner. He has to do better than these pathetic cup exits though i thought It was just pardew who did that. I was shocked at oxford but thought it was a one off. I was wrong As I've said I just don't like him here in this state that we are in as he doesn't deserve it and it's just a wasted season and delaying the end game. Literally all we have is the 0.01% chance of a takeover this season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 He’s getting frustrated....think we all are. He's not helping himself playing centre backs at left back with Sterry on the other side. Good luck trying to play football with them bringing the ball out. We've got some fucking horrendous footballers in those positions. Who the fuck else was he supposed to play at full-back? Yedlin and Dummett absolutely cannot be risked, as evidenced by the backup brigade on show tonight (and at Cardiff). Aye, I suppose we need to keep them fresh so we can wheel them out for the hammering against City on Saturday. I think I'd rather have won today tbh. Resting players for a game we are gonna get beat in anyway and for the big relegation battle and we aren't even out of August. No aim other than to exist in the pl and then we get 11 years of wank and knocked out on purpose runt he cups. That's rafas hat trick now oxford and forest twice. Shite Remember the slaughtering Pardew and the rest of the shite used to get? I do and rightly so. Rafa has to take the same as it's no different. No excuses for it. Last season was bad enough but to go back to the same venue and same round and for it to happen again. Not good enough that Rafa. Anything beyond our best 11 and our squad is that poor we will obviously struggle. Scary how people were looking forward to seeing sterry and longstaff. How much longer do we have to throw cup games to find out our young players aren't pl standard!? They will be at Blackpool and Gateshead soon whilst our next few academy players get us knocked out the fa cup 3rd round 2020 at Lincoln Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubestationatmidnight Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 Ok at home then even worse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 Ok at home then even worse The facts need to be right like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 For those that want Rafa out - just wait when he does leave, because the club will implode and it will be even worse than 2009. He's the only thing that's been holding it together for the last 2 years. He's great coach, and whilst he's not perfect (who is), he's not a fucking miracle worker either. Ashley has hollowed the club out and there's close to being fuck all left. Perhaps that's what is needed ultimately to get a change of ownership? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubestationatmidnight Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 We’d have been better off keeping Mbemba, Merino and Mitrovic than making a few of the signings we’ve made like. Agree Definitely. I get his hands are tied and we are shopping in the bargain bin but best off spending nothing than paying 5m for Joselu, 9m on muto, 5 manquillo etc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 http://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/teams/newcastle-united/11485293/rafa-working-with-hands-tied Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiedean Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 Rafa needs to make his mind up for me and if he has no intention of signing a new contract then he should go now rather than later I mean what is the point in him hanging on for a few months. its like staying with a woman that has no interest in you being around or doesn't want you. You don't put yourself through that you just fuck off for the sake of yourself Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 For those that want Rafa out - just wait when he does leave, because the club will implode and it will be even worse than 2009. He's the only thing that's been holding it together for the last 2 years. He's great coach, and whilst he's not perfect (who is), he's not a fucking miracle worker either. Ashley has hollowed the club out and there's close to being fuck all left. Perhaps that's what is needed ultimately to get a change of ownership? Yep. The next manager will be chosen by Keith Bishop. It could be Allardyce. It could even be another one of his associates like Souness. It will be a train wreck and the opportunity to unite unanimously against Ashley will be gone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubestationatmidnight Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 For those that want Rafa out - just wait when he does leave, because the club will implode and it will be even worse than 2009. He's the only thing that's been holding it together for the last 2 years. He's great coach, and whilst he's not perfect (who is), he's not a fucking miracle worker either. Ashley has hollowed the club out and there's close to being fuck all left. Perhaps that's what is needed ultimately to get a change of ownership? Hallelujah at last then we might finally get some zombies waking up against Ashley! This all needs tearing down, hit rock bottom and get Ashley out then we can start again. Sooner that all happens the better. Anything else and we just carry on like this for 10 years Championship with a new decent owner or pl with Ashley? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinitely Content Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 We’d have been better off keeping Mbemba, Merino and Mitrovic than making a few of the signings we’ve made like. Agree Definitely. I get his hands are tied and we are shopping in the bargain bin but best off spending nothing than paying 5m for Joselu, 9m on muto, 5 manquillo etc An agreeable statement on paper, but Rafa couldn't work with two of them, and the other had a release clause activated and seemingly wanted to move, so there's not much we could have done other than look for the best replacements possible with the limited resources we had. Ashley's shortcoming, at the end of the day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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