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:lol:

 

But everyone was saying i was daft for saying he needs to go and that I was wrong

 

Every time you post, I have the urge to throw a pocketful of change on the floor just to distract you.

 

Just jealous I'm right and I know what's what. It's ok

 

No one disagrees with the sentiment of what you said, it's just you've said it a millions times. Can you not see how thrush inducing that shite is, just repeating the same thing over and over.

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HTT any chance you could summarise the article toontenacity posted?

 

I haven’t read it, I read much slower than I write and I’m fucked if I’m going to read that. I probably don’t have to though, I assume it’s about how great Rafa is which I don’t need to read to understand.

 

It’s about our Rafa though so I won’t be able to help myself no doubt :smitten:

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Torres recalls shyly informing his boss that he and his wife was expecting their first child, only for conversation to be impatiently redirected towards how the striker could tweak his near-post runs; one of Benítez’s first conversations on the Istanbul pitch in the wake of the penalty shootout was to lecture Djibril Cissé on his misreading of Milan’s offside trap.

 

Things like this just make me love him more. :lol:

 

Yup :lol:

 

Do we have any stories like this from his time here so far, except for the "man on" with Lascelles trying to get home after training?

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Torres recalls shyly informing his boss that he and his wife was expecting their first child, only for conversation to be impatiently redirected towards how the striker could tweak his near-post runs; one of Benítez’s first conversations on the Istanbul pitch in the wake of the penalty shootout was to lecture Djibril Cissé on his misreading of Milan’s offside trap.

 

Things like this just make me love him more. :lol:

 

Yup :lol:

 

Do we have any stories like this from his time here so far, except for the "man on" with Lascelles trying to get home after training?

 

Hayden hiding in the car when they stayed at the same hotel/flats?

 

Might be mistaken like.

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HTT any chance you could summarise the article toontenacity posted?

 

I haven’t read it, I read much slower than I write and I’m fucked if I’m going to read that. I probably don’t have to though, I assume it’s about how great Rafa is which I don’t need to read to understand.

 

It’s about our Rafa though so I won’t be able to help myself no doubt :smitten:

 

Sorry just a cheap dig :lol:

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Torres recalls shyly informing his boss that he and his wife was expecting their first child, only for conversation to be impatiently redirected towards how the striker could tweak his near-post runs; one of Benítez’s first conversations on the Istanbul pitch in the wake of the penalty shootout was to lecture Djibril Cissé on his misreading of Milan’s offside trap.

 

Things like this just make me love him more. :lol:

 

Yup :lol:

 

Do we have any stories like this from his time here so far, except for the "man on" with Lascelles trying to get home after training?

 

Hayden hiding in the car when they stayed at the same hotel/flats?

 

Might be mistaken like.

 

This is the only other specific story I can remember reading about before.

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https://www.shieldsgazette.com/sport/football/newcastle-united/rafa-benitez-s-telling-response-to-jamie-carragher-s-scathing-comments-on-newcastle-and-mike-ashley-1-9361768

Rafa Benitez sidestepped questions on his Newcastle United future – after Jamie Carragher said an end-of-season exit was “inevitable”.

 

Benitez is out of contract at the end of the campaign.

 

United’s manager was involved in a stand-off with the club’s hierarchy in the summer.

 

Benitez refused to discuss a new deal before agreeing a funding plan going forward.

 

Newcastle, however, wanted Benitez to commit his future to the club before discussing how much he would be given to spend.

 

In the end, Benitez had to sell to buy and the club made a profit of more than £20million in the summer transfer window at a time when rivals were investing heavily in their squads.

 

Winless United are second-bottom of the Premier League ahead of this afternoon’s game against Crystal Palace at Selhurst Park.

 

In a scathing newspaper column, Carragher questioned what owner Mike Ashley’s plan was for the club, which has suffered two relegations in the past decade.

 

The former Liverpool defender wrote: “Other than the continued employment of Benitez, everything at St James’s Park smacks of zero ambition.”

 

Asked about Carragher’s comments, Benitez said: “I didn’t read that.

 

“When we talk about my contract, my future ... it’s not the time for me to talk about that.

 

“This week I have been focused trying to analyse our performances in the last few games, trying to see what we can do at Crystal Palace to exploit their weaknesses, and to be sure to use our strengths.

 

“I have to focus on these things, it’s what we have to do.”

 

Asked when his future would be an issue, Benitez added: “Hopefully at the end of the season.”

 

Benitez will wait and see if he is able to strengthen his squad in January’s transfer window before he “reviews” his position.

 

“I don’t want this (my future) as an issue for the press conference,” said the 58-year-old.

 

“We have to go to January, see what we do.

 

“How can we do things? And after that, it will be easier to know where we are.

 

“My view was very clear at the beginning when I decided to stay – potential, project, to compete in the top 10. That’s not the case now. So then we have to review things.”

 

Benitez – who last month said he had “sympathy” with fans protesting against Ashley – wants the club to be run in a “another way”.

 

“It’s obvious for everyone that we have to do things in another way,” said Benitez.

 

“But, at the same time, it’s very clear for me that we have to concentrate to get results and to stay in the Premier League.

 

“Ask any fan in the street in Newcastle and they will know what the situation is.

 

“If we can improve something in terms of what we want to do in the future, then fine. But we have to improve on the pitch, that’s it.”

 

Benitez also reiterated his affection for the club, its fans and the city.

 

“I’m really pleased here,” said the Spaniard. “I like the city. I like the atmosphere and the fans and everything that I said before. The potential of the club is massive.”

 

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Has he had complete memory loss? Staggering how he still thinks he is going to get what he wants after the shafting he has had last 2 summers. Sounds like he is going to just change the goal from top 10 to staying up for Ashley and just carry on

 

Sounds like he should walk iyam.

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Ashley has few options besides Rafa. Who could he possibly attract after how well publicised his shafting of a world class manager has been?

 

Certainly no manager with integrity.

 

When you remove integrity that opens up Allardyce shaped possibilities. It’s unbearable to contemplate.

 

The wrath would be like nothing we’ve seen before from our supporters. Ashley is vindictive enough to do it but he’s not got the backbone to see that one through.

 

So by saying nothing and leaving the option for resolution still on the table, Rafa is playing a blinder. We know he doesn’t want to go. But he will unless something radical changes. The closer to the summer it gets the reality will become apparent to those at the club and it will spook them.

 

He’s in the driving seat now. He should probably have someone different negotiate his contract though, as he got shafted the last time.

 

At a minimum though the conditions would have to be:

 

Investment in the training ground.

Minimum 70 million every summer for transfers (not including income from sales).

Setting the academy up how he wants it.

 

If any of these are interfered with or reneged on, he walks. Breach of contract.

 

I think he could live with that. Maybe by end of season Ashley might too.

 

Make no mistake, if he’s not happy with the terms (if any are offered) then he’ll be off. But not before he lets the media know why.

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Has he had complete memory loss? Staggering how he still thinks he is going to get what he wants after the shafting he has had last 2 summers. Sounds like he is going to just change the goal from top 10 to staying up for Ashley and just carry on

 

Sounds like he should walk iyam.

 

I never said that. So I'm not allowed to comment about anything in this thread then? Him banging on about seeing what happens in January man, every man and his dog knows he's getting shafted again so why is he coming out with this bollocks.

 

Yes with proper backing he was the man and he would have taken us back into Europe and cup runs if he had the squad.

 

But with no investment he isn't some messiah or saviour figure anymore, he's just hanging around here as it's the best job he will get in England and will even be happy to adjust his plans to to just stay up and dish up more early cup exits.

 

Other managers would be slaughtered for that but he has people blind to it, keeping the heat off Ashley and making out he is bigger than the club. It's ridiculous. It's at the point now he's a hindrance to the clubs future as the majority won't utter a bad word about the rotten club while he is here.

 

The wrath  :lol: would be a week of kicking off then 50,000 in silence the next home game. Spook them  :lol: they are well aware he could leave In May but they don't care less man.

 

They are just using him for a couple of years of keeping them on the pl gravy train then they will find someone else next season if needs be, they will be happy to gamble again next season and if they go down they will just fund promotion again.

 

As Odin said above no manager with integrity would work under Ashley! He's only here apparently for his money, yet gets worshipped on here somehow.

 

I guess I just see any manager we have under Ashley as an extension of the fat cunt.

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Perhaps he cares about leaving the club in a stable way if he must and ‘getting his deposit back’ in terms of his CV and having kept NUFC in the big time. Integrity can be dissected among many lines - you’ve just drawn it across - he’s playing under Ashley therefore complicit. All those quotes are evidence of ideas that support and angry yet level headed approach many are taking to protest. If he just left, there implications for him, his staff, his family, his players, NUFCs stability (lol) and though I d respect him for it on a relatable level it’d be a similarly gauged reaction to those who say ‘well that won’t work, do a boycott that’ll work’ it just doesn’t cover all the angles.

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