Tubestationatmidnight Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 Stick him on the list along with Bellamy, shola, forde, my dad, keys, wise etc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 What's he saying? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubestationatmidnight Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 Unfortunately by sticking around and taking it Rafa has made a rod for his own back. He should have been long gone by now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 Unfortunately by sticking around and taking it Rafa has made a rod for his own back. He should have been long gone by now We get it, you think Rafa should have walked and you used to go to games and now you don't Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 Unfortunately by sticking around and taking it Rafa has made a rod for his own back. He should have been long gone by now We get it, you think Rafa should have walked and you used to go to games and now you don't Really ? never knew that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubestationatmidnight Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 He has no business being here anymore. He is the only thing keeping a mass wave of hate and pressure towards Ashley at bay. Just step aside and let it unleash Rafa man you have f all to lose Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 Don't be daft, man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubestationatmidnight Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 It's not daft it's true. We all pretty much agree the most important thing for the club is getting Ashley out. With Rafa the pressure on him is at about 40%. Rafa walks then it at least doubles. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 On the contrary, Rafa is probably the only thing making as many work to get Ashley out at the moment as there are, knowing that we'll be reduced to being nothing again when Rafa walks. If Rafa walks full blown apathy among our supporters will set in again within days. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 Unless Ashley has GEORDIES ARE WANKERS put across the top of the stand I don’t see what else he can do to create more unrest. He’s relegated us twice, renamed our stadium, now he’s about to force out the best manager we’ve had for years. When Rafa leaves there’ll be a bit of anger followed by returning to absolute normal. The key is whether people like The Magpie Group can keep up pressure on Sports Direct and his other interests. And ultimately whether a buyer appears who is willing to be taken to the cleaners by Ashley. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubestationatmidnight Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 On the contrary, Rafa is probably the only thing making as many work to get Ashley out at the moment as there are, knowing that we'll be reduced to being nothing again when Rafa walks. If Rafa walks full blown apathy among our supporters will set in again within days. Fair point but I'm not even convinced he will walk. It can't be nice now coming in to training and working every day knowing there is no chance of progression or any hope of anything good. Especially if he knows he is leaving in may then it will all go tits up if he left. He would literally just be keeping us up on the cheap too keep Ashley on the gravy train again. He has been shafted the last 2 summers and is still here. Maybe he just enjoys been here regardless. Maybe he would sign a new deal even the way things are now. If he was here last season and he is here all this season then what's to say he won't do another 2 or more seasons like it? That would be the worst for me it all just carrying on like this, something has to give and soon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 It's not daft it's true. We all pretty much agree the most important thing for the club is getting Ashley out. With Rafa the pressure on him is at about 40%. Rafa walks then it at least doubles. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 Don't understand how a Newcastle fan can view Rafa as a problem Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 He has no business being here anymore. He is the only thing keeping a mass wave of hate and pressure towards Ashley at bay. Just step aside and let it unleash Rafa man you have f all to lose Are you going to pay Ashley the widely-believed £6m for Rafa to walk? If you were in his shoes, would you pay it just over a point of principle and so that the fans could ramp up their protests 9 months earlier? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 I get he thinks if Rafa walks then Ashley might go because of the uproar. Personally i think there's more chance of Ashley going if Rafa stays, imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubestationatmidnight Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 Don't understand how a Newcastle fan can view Rafa as a problem He's not a problem, he just does not deserve this utter shit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubestationatmidnight Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 He has no business being here anymore. He is the only thing keeping a mass wave of hate and pressure towards Ashley at bay. Just step aside and let it unleash Rafa man you have f all to lose Are you going to pay Ashley the widely-believed £6m for Rafa to walk? If you were in his shoes, would you pay it just over a point of principle and so that the fans could ramp up their protests 9 months earlier? That's a stupid clause to have to work under a known wanker like Ashley I just don't go along with the widely believed view that he will walk in May. He already has said he will see about a new deal later in the season. What's there to see about unless Ashley wasn't here anymore? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleBingo Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 Don't understand how a Newcastle fan can view Rafa as a problem Indeed, quite staggering really. Especially as Rafa has done more than anyone to mobilise than fans into actually doing something about Ashley.......he'll keep ramping it up until the end of the season, and when he walks, the club will implode imho. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 He has no business being here anymore. He is the only thing keeping a mass wave of hate and pressure towards Ashley at bay. Just step aside and let it unleash Rafa man you have f all to lose Are you going to pay Ashley the widely-believed £6m for Rafa to walk? If you were in his shoes, would you pay it just over a point of principle and so that the fans could ramp up their protests 9 months earlier? That's a stupid clause to have to work under a known wanker like Ashley I just don't go along with the widely believed view that he will walk in May. He already has said he will see about a new deal later in the season. What's there to see about unless Ashley wasn't here anymore? Are you saying he shouldn't pay the £6m because you've deemed it stupid? Or that he should walk and pay it? Or what? My question still stands in its entirety: "If you were in his shoes, would you pay it just over a point of principle and so that the fans could ramp up their protests 9 months earlier?". Or would you see out your contract, and get paid a year's salary instead of paying £6m to leave? And as for your second bit, Rafa HAS to say he'll see about a new contract. He can't say anything else. Let's face it, there ARE things Ashley could do to make Rafa stay. It's not impossible. He could write something into Rafa's contract saying he'll have £Xm per year net spend to spend on players, that might satisfy Rafa if X was high enough and the contract watertight enough, and Ashley could do that, there's nothing stopping him. But we all know he won't, because 11 years tell us it just won't happen because he's a parasite and a cunt whose only goal is to advertise SD and leach money out of the club and into his own pockets, but Rafa has to allow him to not offer a good enough contract, to give him that opportunity to fuck up, before he walks at the end of his contract with his head held high. Rafa, for me, is playing this perfectly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubestationatmidnight Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 I'm saying it shouldn't have been in there in the first place Aye maybe. I'm just so pissed off at the moment that I can't even feel anything or look forward to our matches anymore. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 I don't think it's about the money for Rafa anyway. He's a man of principles and honour and he'll at least see out his contract no matter what. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 I'm saying it shouldn't have been in there in the first place Well maybe you're right, but that's slightly irrelevant now. Assuming it is there, which it is widely believed to be from reputable sources, should Rafa see out his contact or walk away now? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy84 Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 I can see why there hasn’t been a massive drop in attendances this season, it’s hard to walk away from Rafa and this group of lads. Rafa is a man of integrity, he believes in the club , he believes in its potential, he believes in us as supporters and he believes in our city. He always mentions the city, the community, he knows how important the club is to the area. Next season shouldn’t be a problem in respect of the stadium emptying, all hell will break loose. It’s good the Ashley out campaign is generating momentum now ahead of next summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Away Toon Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 It is pretty amazing if it is in fact true that Rafa signed a contract with such a severe penalty clause inserted if he decided to leave before the three year deal was up, especially knowing he was going to be working for a cunt as big as Ashley. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 It is pretty amazing if it is in fact true that Rafa signed a contract with such a severe penalty clause inserted if he decided to leave before the three year deal was up, especially knowing he was going to be working for a cunt as big as Ashley. I don't think it's amazing at all. If Rafa is, as is believed, a man of integrity who will never walk away from a contract then any kind of clause like this is an utter irrelevance to him. Doesn't matter if there's no clause, a £6m clause, or a £1b clause. He'll stay regardless and see out the contract. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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